That was strictly a logic exercise, and trying to put things down onto paper to see what makes sense, if anything. If I have to pick one of the two, I think Scenario 1 makes a little bit more sense here. But the problem is that no matter which scenario I look at, something runs contrary to my actual reads on players behaviorally.
I think Haddock has been the scummiest player in the game in a vaccuum. I don't like his interactions with Jan, I don't like the opportunistic push he tried to force on Cron even after the tracker claim, I don't like the way he's interacted with me - he ignored my vote on him, and then continually called me scummy without really pushing it, like he knows I'm town and is afraid to get his hands dirty. He did back off his scum read on me, but that could well be a case where he finally realized it was a mislynch that wasn't going to happen.
I've thought Iguana was pretty solidly town all game. It's admittedly hard to articulate why, but he's just been so carefree, pushing no agenda, and giving no cares as to what anyone really thinks of him. He refused to answer one of my questions that required a little bit of work, and I struggle to see scum doing that, when it'd be easier to just make things up than it would be to do the exercise honestly. He's just been so, so carefree and blatant, with the cheerful Wagons! and hopping around, and I just haven't seen any attempt at anything that could resemble an agenda. There was also the opportunistic wagon that formed on him on Day Two, though it did disperse a little bit by day end. Actually, I want to use this to post-edit my Scenario 2 - I don't think Iguana and Faust make a lot of sense as scum together, given the way that end of day happened.
I think EFHW/Chairs is solidly town. Chairs is confirmed to target no one on N1 by Cron and was obviously disinterested in the game based on his role. I think that's much, much more likely to come from town than scum faking that kind of disinterest. EFHW has been great since they replaced in, although I admit there is an element of bias there as they've spoken in support of me, and agree with me about Haddock, so it's possible I'm getting fooled, but I don't think so.
I've talked about Lyle a lot, but he's just near Innocent Child levels to me. His early game newbishness, the role stuff with Seprix, and his earnestness and transparency in the neighbor QT. I see no way he's scum.
Faust is someone I think I'll always have trouble reading because I'll want them to be town. He's been active, he's made attempts at analysis, he's cared about the game, and is one of the reasons I'd play here again, if I do. I can't even really articulate the case against him to be scum. I guess disproportionate survival instincts on Day Two, including the attempt at the very last second vote switch to Iguana to lynch him that could be construed a scumclaim and just delaying the lynch a day. I don't like his near continual push on me since early day one, but I struggle to read people that scum read me because my instinctual reaction is something along the lines of, "What? How can you think I'm scum, I'm so obviously town you have to be scum trying to get a mislynch". I think my ultimate conclusion on Faust behaviorally is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. My gut says he's town, but I suspect I'm always going to read him as pretty town due to activity, effort, and caring about the game when it feels like a chunk of the game hasn't.
JReggie is confusing. Strictly in thread I think he's been the second scummiest person behind Haddock. I don't know how much to mitigate that because he claims he was intentionally trying to be scummy. I didn't really like his Jan interactions on D1, I didn't really like his opportunistic vote hopping on D2, I didn't really like his interactions with Haddock, where they were protecting each other. I don't like the fact that he immediately pushed for Lyle to claim in the neighbor chat, with no concern for the possibility of inviting scum into it in the future and spilling unneccesary information. But I've liked almost everything else he's said and done in the neighbor chat. There's a certain kind of guilelessness and transparency that I don't know if he's capable of faking. His logic for town reading Lyle in particular strikes me as something I'm not sure scum JReggie would have even thought of. On the other hand, he explicitly was recruiting people who he deemed to not be a threat. Lyle, Haddock, Chairs. No offense to players intended, but if scum JReggie was forced to neighborize people, those are the players I'd expect him to be neighborizing, rather than ones who could catch him easily in the chat. Behaviorally he's a mixed bag, but I'd lean scum, especially given Cron, Seprix and Lyle had information already, and his information component claim is very, very strong.
But I don't think my individual behavior reads fit the claims, which means I'm wrong somewhere, or something is really weird mechanically.
It doesn't help that Time Travel as a game mechanic makes literally no sense to me.
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