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[J Reggie]

Faust, how is this helpful to you at all as town or scum? I gave a reason, which I think is a good reason, and you just crossed it out and wrote no? I think that's more of a scummy thing to do than towny, but I just don't get it.

Well, your reason was the definition of OMGUS. So you might as well have admitted to it. Like, I may be OMGUS's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

No, it's definitely not OMGUS. It's reasoning. Now it's OMGUS as well, but I still have genuine reason to believe you're scum. But we need to lynch haddock, who is definitely scum, today.

[silverspawn]

I think I solved it. vote: Haddock

[faust]

There's no way I would have made this bold of a claim as scum. It's really weird but it's what I got, and I have to make my assumptions off of it.

So if I, as your scum partner, would have told you "This is what you have to do.", you would have told me "No, I'm too much of a chicken to do it!"?

[iguanaiguana]

iguana has figured out how to play mafia; are it takes is 10 minutes of skimming the thread and then who's scum falls right into your lap.

You and I both know that I don't have the first clue about how to be scum in mafia.

[silverspawn]

There's no way I would have made this bold of a claim as scum. It's really weird but it's what I got, and I have to make my assumptions off of it.

So if I, as your scum partner, would have told you "This is what you have to do.", you would have told me "No, I'm too much of a chicken to do it!"?

You, as a scum partner, wouldn't have told him to do it.

[faust]

Haddock is at L-1 I think. Please be careful with your votes.

[EFHW]

Wait - EFHW has claimed to have targeted me? But N1, according to Cron, EFHW did not target anyone, right? Hum dum. Not sure what it means. Of course there are even-night and X-shot possibilities. Did EFHW claim to have targeted me N2?

that's right. I mean, that's what chairs did.

[faust]

iguana has figured out how to play mafia; are it takes is 10 minutes of skimming the thread and then who's scum falls right into your lap.

You and I both know that I don't have the first clue about how to be scum in mafia.

Please don't presume to know anything about what I know and what I don't. And anyway I don't see what this has to do with anything.

[faust]

There's no way I would have made this bold of a claim as scum. It's really weird but it's what I got, and I have to make my assumptions off of it.

So if I, as your scum partner, would have told you "This is what you have to do.", you would have told me "No, I'm too much of a chicken to do it!"?

You, as a scum partner, wouldn't have told him to do it.

Absolutely I would have.

[J Reggie]

Wait - EFHW has claimed to have targeted me? But N1, according to Cron, EFHW did not target anyone, right? Hum dum. Not sure what it means. Of course there are even-night and X-shot possibilities. Did EFHW claim to have targeted me N2?

that's right. I mean, that's what chairs did.

Anything incriminating? I'm guessing not.

[faust]

It's like with ADK in that one game where shraeye neglected to counterclaim Cop. Well, not exactly like that.

[faust]

I think I solved it. vote: Haddock

If you think Haddock is scum, then you can let me work some magic and lynch him tomorrow if you still think he's scum.

[J Reggie]

It's like with ADK in that one game where shraeye neglected to counterclaim Cop. Well, not exactly like that.

How?

I think I solved it. vote: Haddock

If you think Haddock is scum, then you can let me work some magic and lynch him tomorrow if you still think he's scum.

No, let's not stand for this stalling any longer.

[faust]

I think I solved it. vote: Haddock

If you think Haddock is scum, then you can let me work some magic and lynch him tomorrow if you still think he's scum.

No, let's not stand for this stalling any longer.

WTF? 1 post per minute is stalling to you?

[silverspawn]

I think I solved it. vote: Haddock

If you think Haddock is scum, then you can let me work some magic and lynch him tomorrow if you still think he's scum.

Maybe. Maybe not. with 5-2-1, we're at LyLo~, which is Lynch correctly or be reliant on SK and Mafia shooting each other to win.

[faust]

It's like with ADK in that one game where shraeye neglected to counterclaim Cop. Well, not exactly like that.

How?

I instructed him to do a claim that secured our win.

[EFHW]

So, Haddock - did you target a player not in J Reggie's list, or how do you know he's not telling the truth?

I do not have a targetting role. Nor does lyle. 
So yeah I considered redirection possibilities but that consideration did not take long. 

I mean seriously. Somehow EFHW targetted 4 people? Not seeing it.  This is all totally bogus.

How do you know teamlyle does not have a targeting role?  I haven't finished my reread, so maybe I missed something.

[faust]

I think I solved it. vote: Haddock

If you think Haddock is scum, then you can let me work some magic and lynch him tomorrow if you still think he's scum.

Maybe. Maybe not. with 5-2-1, we're at LyLo~, which is Lynch correctly or be reliant on SK and Mafia shooting each other to win.

Well, with 5-2-1, there are still 1 SK and 1 mafia out there who are not named J Reggie or Haddock.

[faust]

How do you know teamlyle does not have a targeting role?  I haven't finished my reread, so maybe I missed something.

He claimed it.

[silverspawn]

haddock is scum, because

- J Reggie's claim didn't come off as a fake claim. He said 'I have results, gtg do them later, you guys claim' and then later he claimed. that requires extra thought of mafia how to present it.

- the narrative for mafia!J Reggie is shaky

- why claim that ALL NK targets are in your group, instead of just some?

- being secure against counterclaims adds complexity to the narrative

- haddock has made some pretty bad posts today and has all around the scummier near-lynch play

on the other hand

- I've been scumreading J Reggie before

not enough.

[faust]

teamlyle, I still want you to clarify how you, as a VT with no ability, had information on Seprix's alignment.

[faust]

Your "on the other hand" doesn't even mention that two kills from the same player are highly unlikely? Is that some kind of joke?

[J Reggie]

teamlyle, I still want you to clarify how you, as a VT with no ability, had information on Seprix's alignment.

He said he was in a neighborhood with Seprix.

[EFHW]

I have been on the fence about Haddock all game.  His response to j reggie's accusation reads scummy to me, because he doesn't fully look at all the possibilities and because he is so mad. 

There is no reason to assume he did all the nk's. It certainly doesn't make sense that mafia would get 2 nk's last night, so at least one of cron/Seprix would have to be non-nk targets.  Roleblocking in particular comes to mind.  Wasn't cron a tracker?  Makes him a good vig target and a good roleblocking or redirection target.

I would support a Haddock lynch here.

Looking at the reverse possibility, a compulsory scum neighborizer is a really cool role from a mod standpoint. JReggie has stated in the neighborhood that his role is compulsory.

[EFHW]

EBWOP: SK, not vig. Big difference!