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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1050 on: July 25, 2016, 03:38:18 pm »
I just hope there's not a secondary objective of mafia to find a specific person because these mass claims might bite us. But I don't see a way out now.  It's probably two town tunneling on each other.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1051 on: July 25, 2016, 03:44:58 pm »
Do all of you have to act so scummy? It's irritating. And I don't want to change my vote before J Reggie show up again.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1052 on: July 25, 2016, 04:17:02 pm »
Quote from: Cron on July 25, 2016, 03:36:18 pm
Alright I had to walk away and calm down a bit.

I'm going to unvote just for that vote Cron outburst from haddock because it's one of the most asshole and troll things I've ever seen when someone's clearly annoyed and I'll be super disgusted that a mafia would do that on purpose to try to get a mislynch. Maybe I'm wrong and he's a huge asshole.  If you did, wow. Although thinking about it, he seems pretty passionate about his read on me, even if it is wrong.

So i can claim if people really want me to. I'll wait for f-2 if people think I'm actually mafia. If I get one more vote I'll claim.

If haddock's claim is true, I would almost prefer j Reggie give him the go ahead because it will lock multiple people into some claims and softs. I will claim as well if need be.
I appreciate the unvote.

I don't think I've ever been called an asshole before.  Even in the hypothetical.  I dont usually fall out with people here.
 
Which suggests I've done something pretty extreme to piss you off.  And I guess it can only be my votey post.  I apologise for it.  It certainly wasn't intended as trolly. I was just venting.  Your giving up post did not feel like you were genuinely pissed off or angry, it just felt scummy, my votes were just to make the point that I thought your post was scummy.  I guess I could have made that point in a better way.  I apologise, I really do.

Yeah reggie needs to turn up.  Is he owed a prod?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1053 on: July 25, 2016, 04:28:28 pm »
Quote from: Cron on July 25, 2016, 03:36:18 pm
Alright I had to walk away and calm down a bit.

I'm going to unvote just for that vote Cron outburst from haddock because it's one of the most asshole and troll things I've ever seen when someone's clearly annoyed and I'll be super disgusted that a mafia would do that on purpose to try to get a mislynch.

This makes me want to vote for you. Sorry, this really feels like some attempt at an appeal to emotion.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1054 on: July 25, 2016, 04:35:12 pm »
WHAT'S WITH THE CAPS LOCK?

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1055 on: July 25, 2016, 04:40:44 pm »
Vote Count 2.6


Cron (4): Haddock, J Reggie, teamlyle, iguanaiguana
Haddock (2): Cellovix, fontisian
J Reggie (2): faust, Seprix
faust (1): silverspawn
iguanaiguana (1): chairs

Not Voting (1): Cron

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.  Day 2 ends Thursday July 28, 9PM
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1056 on: July 25, 2016, 04:53:57 pm »
Sure I'll claim

I'm Matt Parkman. I have a mind read ability I can use every night (I couldn't n0). I can see who the target targets.

I softed I was going to watch jan day 1 but since he died I wanted to check someone off wagon and not in my towns. Checked chairs. He targeted no one.  I softed this earlier today that he's done nothing.

I'm fairly confident chairs is town since he targeted no one. I don't see a mafia not having an ability or making a kill. I'm assuming if he made the kill I'd be able to see it.

All I got for you guys. Believe me or lynch me.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1057 on: July 25, 2016, 04:57:21 pm »
Can you state the exact wording of the tracking mechanic? Is it literally "See who the target targets?"
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1058 on: July 25, 2016, 05:01:14 pm »
I cant quote it directly, can I?  Isn't that mod kill offense?

Basically i can inspect a person each night and see who that person targets. I do not know what that person did to their target, I just see who they targeted.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1059 on: July 25, 2016, 05:02:02 pm »
Chairs targeted no one last night. That's a fact.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1060 on: July 25, 2016, 05:02:11 pm »
Quote from: Cellovix on July 25, 2016, 04:57:21 pm
Can you state the exact wording of the tracking mechanic? Is it literally "See who the target targets?"

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1061 on: July 25, 2016, 05:03:07 pm »
Hm.  I was asking because of the stuff with RR where there where he could see non-factional abilities, implying factional abilities exist.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1062 on: July 25, 2016, 05:09:02 pm »
That claim makes me feel worse about you. I was not going to lynch you then, now I might.

a) it's just a tracker. why would gkrieg invent a name? And is such a simple role plausible?
b) it's not two-parted

Can anyone else claim to have an ability with only one part? That would reveal next to no information to scum.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1063 on: July 25, 2016, 05:10:20 pm »
Well, chairs should come in and confirm this at some point.

I do think that Cron has that power. Whether he's town... well who knows.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1064 on: July 25, 2016, 05:11:00 pm »
I think I believe Cron, though.

A targeted role like tracker makes a lot of sense given Jan was a redirector/busdriver or whatever.  He could presumably shield who made the kill from the track while alive.

@Silver

I can confirm that my ability only has one part, and is similarly simple/conventional.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1065 on: July 25, 2016, 05:12:13 pm »
Quote from: silverspawn on July 25, 2016, 05:09:02 pm
That claim makes me feel worse about you. I was not going to lynch you then, now I might.

a) it's just a tracker. why would gkrieg invent a name? And is such a simple role plausible?
b) it's not two-parted

Can anyone else claim to have an ability with only one part? That would reveal next to no information to scum.

I have an ability with only one part.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1066 on: July 25, 2016, 05:14:37 pm »
oh, okay then. That's enough.

Back to not wanting to lynch Cron, then.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1067 on: July 25, 2016, 05:15:15 pm »
Quote from: Cellovix on July 25, 2016, 05:11:00 pm
A targeted role like tracker makes a lot of sense given Jan was a redirector/busdriver or whatever.  He could presumably shield who made the kill from the track while alive.

What's that supposed to mean, "a targeted role"? Aren't almost all roles "targeted"?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1068 on: July 25, 2016, 05:15:55 pm »
Quote from: silverspawn on July 25, 2016, 05:14:37 pm
oh, okay then. That's enough.

Back to not wanting to lynch Cron, then.

Why? I guess you just didn't have a scumread on him pre-claim... is that right?
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1069 on: July 25, 2016, 05:16:15 pm »
Quote from: faust on July 25, 2016, 05:15:55 pm
Quote from: silverspawn on July 25, 2016, 05:14:37 pm
oh, okay then. That's enough.

Back to not wanting to lynch Cron, then.

Why? I guess you just didn't have a scumread on him pre-claim... is that right?

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1070 on: July 25, 2016, 05:17:45 pm »
But there's actually more. Tracker is just not a likely role as mafia. It's so weak, mostly just good for a fake claim. If you want to give mafia an investigative role, I think something like followers or an invented thing would be more likely. Tracker particularly is much stronger for town.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1071 on: July 25, 2016, 05:20:25 pm »
Quote from: silverspawn on July 25, 2016, 05:17:45 pm
But there's actually more. Tracker is just not a likely role as mafia. It's so weak, mostly just good for a fake claim. If you want to give mafia an investigative role, I think something like followers or an invented thing would be more likely. Tracker particularly is much stronger for town.

That much is true. Of course, if Cron really was a scum Follower, he could have claimed to be a Tracker all the same because his result on chairs would be the same... but that's a bit contrived I guess.
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1072 on: July 25, 2016, 05:21:13 pm »
Quote from: faust on July 25, 2016, 05:15:15 pm
Quote from: Cellovix on July 25, 2016, 05:11:00 pm
A targeted role like tracker makes a lot of sense given Jan was a redirector/busdriver or whatever.  He could presumably shield who made the kill from the track while alive.

What's that supposed to mean, "a targeted role"? Aren't almost all roles "targeted"?

Most are I guess.  Was mostly just musing to myself that given what RR revealed about Jan's role, an info role like tracker, specifically, makes a lot of sense to me being on town.  Since Jan could shield the scum team from it much like a ninja would.   I design and host a lot of mafia games, so it was more my inner moderator nodding along with the claim and going "That makes sense and is pretty elegant, I like it."
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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1073 on: July 25, 2016, 05:33:18 pm »
I wasn't going to disclose a part of my role but after thinking about it, I strongly doubt the mafia have two re-directors and the information might help town. Jan being Maurie Parkman and me being Matt Parkman, I think it was specifically designed to dodge her alone.

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Re: RMM 33: Heroes Mafia (D2)
« Reply #1074 on: July 25, 2016, 05:39:29 pm »
Huh.

That doesn't really make sense to include from a design standpoint, but I'd need to know full setup to really analyse that.

However it makes even LESS sense to claim that as scum, so I'm pretty comfortable calling Cron extremely likely town.
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