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[LibraryAdventurer]

I think I'm in over my head.

I can no longer speak for anyone else, but for my part I was not at all serious when I said this:

OTOH, if we do do brackets, we should have good players play each other with two villages in the kingdom, and one player is only allowed to use one village, and the other player uses the other village...

The rest of you are welcome to your brackets or whatever...
<quietly tiptoes out of the room>

[Seprix]

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

So you pick one card from each pair to vote for. List all your votes in a post. You have until sometime, at which point possibly someone will tally them up and we will move on to the second round with the top 16.

Yessir. I can discuss reasons for choosing one card over another if people really want to see that.

Let the Village Madness Brackets begin.

[AdrianHealey]

if nobody objects, I'm fine with starting a new topic for these votes.

And is the question: strongest or favorite?

[Max]

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

Match 1 (KC v Walled Village): More fun.
Match 2 (Crossroads v Mining Village): More fun
Match 3 (Herald v Farming Village: Herald is enjoyable when it hits, but man I hate the swinginess. Farming village is great.
Match 4 (Hamlet v Plaza: Easy choice for me.
Match 5 (Royal Carriage v Village): We state this without further justification.
Match 6 (Throne Room v Squire): Fun
Match 7 (Fortress v Festival): Festival is sweet.
Match 8 (Fishing Village v Port): Port is fun, FV is better.
Match 9 (Procession v Shanty Town): I like the idea of a draw that only occurs when a card is useless.
Match 10 (Ironmonger v University): University is a wonderful oxymoron, best in games without potions.
Match 11 (Wandering Minstrel v Bandit Camp): No justification.
Match 12 (Inn v Lost City): I like the village that can help drawing the deck. It's fun. The Inn I find strangely frustrating.
Match 13 (Border Village v Bazaar): Border Village allows you to ramp up an engine. I like Bazaar in games with new people, as it's a village that provides more than the 40 actions the new player can never use.
Match 14 (Golem v Nobles): Golem's are fun, Nobles are also fun.
Match 15 (City v Worker's Village): It's always enjoyable watching people try and empty the second pile after a 7-3 split with no assistance from you as you get ready to green.
Match 16 (CoTR v Native Village): I love Native Village, despite its swing - I love feeling like being like "The natives stole a province *shrugs*" then a turn later being angry they kidnapped a smithy. But I played a game with CoTR last week and it was pretty sweet.

Favourite is interesting. Strongest would certainly result in different answers, and less exciting ones.

[werothegreat]

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

[McGarnacle]

What we could do is create a poll, with everyone allowed enough votes so that they could vote for one card from each bracket. I would be willing to create the poll. The poll would be visible to anyone, so anyone who votes all their votes for one card would have their access votes discounted.

Alternatively, we could just do what everyone else is doing, so here goes.

1. King's Court
2. Walled Village

3. Crossroads
4. Mining Village

5. Herald
6. Farming Village

7. Hamlet
8. Plaza

9. Royal Carriage
10. Village

11. Throne Room
12. Squire

13. Fortress
14. Festival

15. Fishing Village
16. Port

17. Procession
18. Shanty Town

19. Ironmnonger
20. University

21. Wandering Minstrel
22. Bandit Camp

23. Inn
24. Lost City

25. Border Village
26. Bazaar

27. Golem
28. Nobles

29. City
30. Worker's Village

31. Native Village
32. Coin of the Realm

[Infthitbox]

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

So you pick one card from each pair to vote for. List all your votes in a post. You have until sometime, at which point possibly someone will tally them up and we will move on to the second round with the top 16.

KC, RC, TR don't really need further comment. I really enjoy Mining Village, but I suspect I buy it as one-shot silver a little too often. I love Worker's Village for reasons I can't explain, maybe the art? I rarely use all those buys anyway. Nobles takes me back to when I played lots of Dominion at college, we would often start turns by slamming two Nobles down from our hand saying 'dub nobs'. I voted against Procession because I'm awful with the card. Festival is again a nostalgia card from the base set days. In NV/CotR, I went with the card that is still novel to me rather than the one that I've played a bunch with; I don't feel that strongly about either to be honest.

[Seprix]

I was voting by best, but if we're going favorites, I should vote again, I guess.

[McGarnacle]

I was voting by best, but if we're going favorites, I should vote again, I guess.

I was also voting for best. I think voting for best makes more sense, because it is hard to come to a consensus on "what is everyone's favorite village"

[McGarnacle]

Also, who will count up the votes at the end?

[shark_bait]

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

[Witherweaver]

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm


My first instinct on Plaza v Hamlet was to go Hamlet, because you can get the buy from it.  Plaza can even out buys, though, which can be pretty key.  Maybe Squire v. Throne Room is iffy; I think I go for Squire more often than Throne Room.   Nobles v. Golem is a bit of a tossup.. Golem is more fun.  Nobles is more reliable, and has VP. 

[Max]

I put the other cards in a rough order for a vote on favorite, rather than most powerful, man we have Qvist's polls for power level, just look at what order they ended up in if you want. Anyway favorite is more interesting to me so there you go.

I went for Donald's explanation. On the basis that his description seems legit.

[A Ladder]

Voting for favorite because it's more fun.

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm


Only hard one for me was Border Village vs Bazaar. I mean, I like both of them, but for totally different reasons.
Also, I really really like Worker's Village. I hate stopping my building of an engine to pick up +Buy. So since it comes from my village, it's great! (and by extension Hamlet, and to a lesser degree Festival).

[McGarnacle]

I put the other cards in a rough order for a vote on favorite, rather than most powerful, man we have Qvist's polls for power level, just look at what order they ended up in if you want. Anyway favorite is more interesting to me so there you go.

I went for Donald's explanation. On the basis that his description seems legit.

Edited post so its "favorite" instead of "best".

[LastFootnote]

Favorite is more fun than best

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

Looks like, in general, I think the more recently made cards are more interesting/fun. University beats Ironmonger, though. Bazaar edges out Border Village just slightly, not sure why.

[Witherweaver]

University beats Ironmonger

HERESEY

[liopoil]

Favorite is more fun than best

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm

Copied from LastFootnote and changed the ones I disagree on.

[LastFootnote]

University beats Ironmonger

HERESEY

I tend to not like cards that are mostly auto-buys. That's probably why I chose Bazaar over Border Village, too.

[Witherweaver]

...

No Watchtower?  I'm disappointed. 

[liopoil]

...

No Watchtower?  I'm disappointed. 

I didn't even choose the villages which combo with Watchtower

[Witherweaver]

...

No Watchtower?  I'm disappointed. 

I didn't even choose the villages which combo with Watchtower

[Roadrunner7671]

2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads

5 Herald

7 Hamlet

9 Royal Carriage

12 Squire

13 Fortress

15 Fishing Village

18 Shanty Town

20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel

23 Inn

25 Border Village

28 Nobles

29 City

32 Coin of the Realm

[liopoil]

...

No Watchtower?  I'm disappointed. 

I didn't even choose the villages which combo with Watchtower

I have now created a favorite reaction thread! Go vote!

[tripwire]

Now that it's favorite and not best, I'm actually interested in doing this too.

1 King's Court
2 Walled Village

3 Crossroads
4 Mining Village

5 Herald
6 Farming Village

7 Hamlet
8 Plaza

9 Royal Carriage
10 Village

11 Throne Room
12 Squire

13 Fortress
14 Festival

15 Fishing Village
16 Port

17 Procession
18 Shanty Town

19 Ironmonger
20 University

21 Wandering Minstrel
22 Bandit Camp

23 Inn
24 Lost City

25 Border Village
26 Bazaar

27 Golem
28 Nobles

29 City
30 Worker's Village

31 Native Village
32 Coin of the Realm


I'm sad about the university/ironmonger pairing in the first round. They're both super fun. Also procession can be a blast, but I have an odd fondness for shanty town.