OK, time for to catch up via a player-by-player reread:
liopoil:
There's a lot going on with liopoil, and some strong emotional reactions. I'm not really used to that from him, but I haven't played in that many games with him. I have a hard time understanding we're he's coming from a lot of the time, and his posts seem to contain a lot of contradictions. The easy explanation is that's because he's scum and his stances are fabricated, but it might be town and approaching the game differently than me.
Notable posts:
439 stood out to me because of the hedgey position on RR. He feels it's important to point out that he didn't explicitly townread RR, then says that he does in fact townread RR.
201, 446, and
448 stand out because he gives an RVS baiting post (null) but carries it over to far after actual discussion has begun, then immediately backs off on it. It's scummy for a couple of reasons: first, I would expect town to have forgotten about/dropped their baiting by that point, and second, the immediate unvoting suggests that he was feeling self-conscious about it.
570 and the next post, there's not a whole lot to say except that liopoil looks extremely self-conscious. His following posts seem frustrated which can come as easily from town as from scum but it's the original reaction that's important.
601 this might just be a playstyle disagreement but I don't like that's he's discouraging voting as a means of applying pressure.
623 I don't think his analysis of his wagon is bad, although he does some overly hesitant to outright call anyone scum. But I don't like the last line, I find trying to direct conversation like that scummy. Your wagon is what's happening, people have a right to discuss it and give their thoughts and pursue it.
697 is a weird lynchpool, and
704 is frankly bizarre. What's a lynchpool if not a list of players you find at least somewhat scummy? Are you willing to lynch players you have a townread on?
Summary: Hedgey, self-conscious, weird. Status: Would lynch.
gkrieg:
Other than his stream-of-consciousness posts, almost all of his posts are one or two lines long. He puts a lot of things in terms of “I like this” or “I don't like that” without much elaboration into his thought process. Honestly it reads as towny; scum bends over backwards to justify themselves. He pokes and prods and seems generally engaged, if overly reluctant to commit to actual reads.
Notable posts:
420 something about this post and his whole consideration of the Seprix/Melis/me situation reads towny to me. He seems like he's very engaged in the situation and working to form reads.
528, 529 again, gkrieg is brief with his posts but does seem like he has something to say.
Summary: Natural, engaged, doesn't seem forced. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Fontisian:
After a strong initial post, seems to take a long time to get into the game. Brusque reactions to a lot of things, willing to put herself out there. A little on the lurky side, and seems to be more reactive than proactive. Not putting a whole lot of her own reads out there, but the ones that she does are strong reads, which I think ends up as towny.
Notable posts:
496 this sort of analysis looks towny.
620 is one of those posts that's so towny, it's scummy. But I don't think that it could be coaching, scum generally knows better than to do that kind of thing. If anything it makes me think that lio and font are less likely to be partners.
657 and on the flip side, this is one of those things that's so scummy it couldn't possibly be coming from actual scum.
Summary: Slightly lurky, but forward and willing to stand by her opinions. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Silverspawn:
A lot of well though-out analysis. I don't 100% agree with all of it, but he's very engaged with the game and is one of my strongest townreads on this reread so far. Has a very relaxed tone, talks a bit about things unrelated to the game.
Notable posts:
514 the big reread. This kinds of posts aren't impossible to fake as scum and silver is absolutely a good enough player to do so, but it makes me not want to vote for him today.
561, 611 Silver gives IG a townread but is soon after willing to question IG's flop on Teproc. Towny; scum isn't so quick to change reads.
655 Silver's reasoning seems spot on here. I like what I see.
Summary: On the ball, engaged, relaxed. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
RR:
Eh. Pretty typical Roadrunner stuff. Says a bunch of stuff that would scummy coming from anyone else. Completely misunderstands RVS and seems to be playing a different game than everyone else (not a different mafia game, like he's playing parcheesi or something). But I like the whole liopoil thing, and he does have enough actual content that I don't want to lynch him.
Notable posts:
627, 630 does a good job of explaining himself against pressure.
Summary: Typical Roadrunner. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Melisandre:
Bold play, not afraid of controversy, lot of poking of players and looking for reactions. Seems to put a lot of consideration into his reads. Asks a lot of pointed questions, and seems to genuinely consider the answers. Confident, conversational, flippant at times with his reaction gifs. Another strong townread.
Notable posts:
617, one of the few Melis posts I didn't like. At that point I think the lio situation demanded a stance, or at least a good explanation for not taking a side, rather than humor.
Status: Bold, confident. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Also:
What do you mean? You heard from me today.
When are you going to start playing?
hahahahahahaha
Seprix:
Was very active at the start of the game, then gets a little lurkier. I like his early argument with Melis but my town read fades as I read him as the day goes on. I would like to see more commited reads from him on people who aren't Melisandre.
Notable posts:
457 do you have a read on liopoil?
516 do you have a read on silverspawn?
589 do you have a read on IG?
Summary: Somewhat lurky, and a strong shift in playstyle throughout the day. Status: Would lynch.
Hydrad:
A grand total of
three four posts. There's seriously almost nothing here. Even Hydrad isn't usually
this lurky, right?
Summary: Super lurker. Status: Would lynch.
Awaclus:
Ok, I'm going to try and overcome my Awaclus-bias here.
Typically closed-mouthed. I guess he finds Seprix scummy! I'm not expecting him to explain why. Although if he was town, I would expect more people would be pushing his lynch, since being anti-Awaclus is so easy, so I think that's worth at least a scumlean.
Summary: Awaclus. Status: Would lynch.
Yeah, couldn't overcome it.
J Reggie:
Seems relaxed. Seems very aware of people's metas for a newer player. I'll admit he's a bit enigmatic to me, I'm pretty much null on him. Is little shifty, willing to change his votes a lot. Well, there's a few posts that do look towny:
305 willing to change his mind without making a big deal about it.
480 the tone of this feels relaxed and towny.
570 the original liopoil vote is pretty bold, especially from a new player.
The one thing that still stands out to me is this:
314 J Reggie: why was gkrieg, specifically, on this list? He had made barely any posts by that point.
Summary: Hanging back, but relaxed. Not the townies but not the scummiest. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Haddock:
Few posts, but some of them are pretty long. Is tunneling J Reggie pretty hard. His reads seem kind of floaty, like he doesn't quite know where he's landed yet. I would like to see more from him but he's landed on town for now. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Ichimaru Gin:
Fairly quiet for Ichi, although I suppose no one's put any pressure on him so we haven't had the classic Ichi blow-up yet. Does seem to get more involved as the day goes on, especially in his interactions with liopoil. The turn-around there makes me lean town for now.
327, 547 casual, gut-based votes for people who don't currently have big wagons on them. Towny.
608 again, casual, conversational. Towny.
Summary: Casual, a little quiet. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
e:
Not really liking what I see here. OMGUS's hard against Jan, doesn't seem to have strong opinions on anyone else. A lot of his early posts seem kind of empty and forced. e's usually more on the ball than this I think.
Notable posts:
282, 494['url] this kind of empty posting is odd from e.
[url=http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=14936.msg604193#msg604193]583 this reread list seems kind of lazy and faked to me.
Summary: Removed, disengaged, reactive. Status: Would lynch.
Jan:
Somewhat abrasive. Asks a lot of questions, prods people a lot. Seems to focus his attention on the people he's already played with, but that's understandable.
500 Jan/fontisian looks like town fighting town to me.
668 a very involved explanation of his reasoning. I buy it as a genuine explanation of his thought process, even if I disagree with the conclusion.
690 massive player-by-player reread. Those are, like, super towny.
Summary: Abrasive, proactive, opinionated. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
Teproc:
Teproc is always next to impossible for me to read, but I'm leaning town here. He's reserved and rational. He went out on a limb with the liopoil thing. Another player that I want a little more from at this point.
376 I feel like Teproc should get that what Melis was doing (or was claiming to have done) was posted the reads list as a reaction test. But eh.
575 for me what stands out as towny about this is the “this is going to look ridiculous, but...” line. Scum's going to try and be super confident in their reads. Teproc also I think tries to present himself as super rational as scum, and wouldn't qualify his vote like that.
Summary: Reserved, fairly typical of his meta. Status: Wouldn't lynch.
So my lynchpool looks like:
liopoil, Hydrad, Awaclus, Seprix, e. The liopoil read is probably the strongest, with e after that, and I think those would be the most informative lynches. I'm going to go with
Vote: e
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