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[Melisandre]

I really need to apply different voices in my head when reading you guys.
If anyone wants to be a specific voice, let me know.

Mickey Knox (Woody Harrelson) from Oliver Stone's Natural Born Killers.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Vote: Awaclus

Someone after my own heart.

vote: Melisandre

Vote: seprix for repeatedly voting for people trying to get us out of RVS.

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: ADK

Even I 'know' that RVS isn't the place to be.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Vote: ADK

Even I 'know' that RVS isn't the place to be.

So you should be voting for Seprix then.

[Seprix]

vote: Melisandre

Vote: seprix for repeatedly voting for people trying to get us out of RVS.

I'm all for getting out of RVS. I am not for incredibly forced reads that are so contrived, you couldn't trick a rock.

[Teproc]

Don't you want to hear my solid scum-case on Awaclus? 

You have so much time to say it. Also, before you say anything, Awaclus is the most different individual you will ever encounter in all of fd.s Mafia, and normal tactics that would touch normal people do not even affect him.

LEt's not spoil the delightful (mmmph) surprise of discovering Awaclus to our new friends, please. Same with RR really.

ADK is obvtown already, this is going great.

[liopoil]

Guys, RVS ended 27 posts ago or so.

[A Drowned Kernel]

vote: Melisandre

Vote: seprix for repeatedly voting for people trying to get us out of RVS.

I'm all for getting out of RVS. I am not for incredibly forced reads that are so contrived, you couldn't trick a rock.

His reads didn't look that contrived to me, there was a lot of null on there.

[silverspawn]

silverspawn I really hope you're town because you're the scary championship person expert. You have to read them and stop them from lynching me.

I am, don't worry... finally. had too many scum games recently.

Tryhard scum is tryhard.

Really? Do you think an experienced scum would open the game like this?

I wouldn't expect an experienced town player to do so either. Melisnandre being from a different site with a different meta makes this hard to evaluate, but "scummy" is where I'm landing.

And why?

Vote: Awaclus

Someone after my own heart.

vote: Melisandre

Vote: seprix for repeatedly voting for people trying to get us out of RVS.

vote: ADK

I disagree with the Melisandre vote, but I don't see how "voting for people trying to get us out of RVS" is scummy. If those votes are not RVS themselves, then why would voting for them get us back into RVS? Or is it bad for other reasons?

[A Drowned Kernel]

ADK is obvtown already, this is going great.

vote: Teproc

[Roadrunner7671]

I misread ADK's post but I'm not gonna unvote.

[silverspawn]

ADK is obvtown already, this is going great.

ADK is obvtown already, this is going great.

vote: Teproc

I like this.

[gkrieg13]

I like teproc so far

Also ADK is making the sense. The reads list doesn't seem too contrived to me

[A Drowned Kernel]

@silverspawn it's just a bad feeling I get when I see people pushing back against people who make real votes and reads early. Scum wants to try and shut down and discourage actual discussion. Also "you can't have a real read yet! vote so-and-so" is an easy way for scum to look like they're contributing without taking a particularly risky position.

[Teproc]

ADK is obvtown already, this is going great.

vote: Teproc

I'd say something but Ichimaru's fortune is already staggering (more private jokes !).

PPE : You do realise you are doing exactly what you're describing right ?

[gkrieg13]

I misread ADK's post but I'm not gonna unvote.

Wait what?

[Melisandre]

Please raise your hand if you thought I was being serious with that page one reads list / "solid scum-case" on Awaclus?

[silverspawn]

Let's not spoil the delightful (mmmph) surprise of discovering Awaclus to our new friends, please. Same with RR really.

Actually, we probably should spoil it. It's better if we avoid too much confusion.

Awaclus thinks that town should explain why they're town, rather than players explain why others are or aren't town. Therefore he never gives reasons for votes. He also votes for me every game with his first post even if I'm the mod.

RR is paranoid, jumpy, and weird, and tries to replicate that if he's scum. Overreaction to pressure is not a scum tell.

[J Reggie]

Don't you want to hear my solid scum-case on Awaclus? 

Have at it!

Don't know what else to say about this RVS stuff. The sooner we're out of rvs the better, but it's not like there's a line where you say "this is where it becomes non-rvs".

[A Drowned Kernel]

How am I doing what I'm describing? Seprix voted for melisandre for having "contrived reads" because it's "too early". I'm saying that that's nonsense, and also suspicious because it's an easy position to take, so I'm voting for him.

[silverspawn]

Please raise your hand if you thought I was being serious with that page one reads list / "solid scum-case" on Awaclus?

I thought you were serious with the reads list while knowing that it's super early and therefore weak, but not with the solid scum case on Awaclus.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Please raise your hand if you thought I was being serious with that page one reads list / "solid scum-case" on Awaclus?

Hand raise on the first one, not on the second.

[Teproc]

Please raise your hand if you thought I was being serious with that page one reads list / "solid scum-case" on Awaclus?

It was ambiguous, that's what's scummy about it.

PPE : Boo, silver. Boo.

PPE2 : You're voting for me, a player who is taking strong stances and getting us out of RVS. You seem to specifically be voting for me because one of those stances, too.

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Please raise your hand if you thought I was being serious with that page one reads list / "solid scum-case" on Awaclus?

It was about as solid as most of my early cases.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Please raise your hand if you thought I was being serious with that page one reads list / "solid scum-case" on Awaclus?

It was ambiguous, that's what's scummy about it.

PPE : Boo, silver. Boo.

PPE2 : You're voting for me, a player who is taking strong stances and getting us out of RVS. You seem to specifically be voting for me because one of those stances, too.

Oh, that. Well, that's partially for meta reasons, and also because I'm usually automatically a little suspicious of people who claim to have a town read on me.