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[iguanaiguana]

ahha I'm here. I have my master plan. As an IC i'll play soooo poorly that scum won't want to kill me. and then we get to mylo and i'm still alive. Its perfect.

On a serious note I still have no idea whats happening this game. funnily enough drunk ash is actually making the game move foward a bit so thats good.

Agree, need more drunk Ash to keep the game active.

Joseph, your vote is on Ash. Are you still thinking he's scummy after his latest drinking binge?

[Haddock]

You hedged epically as regards to your top town reads.

Look, I hedge all the time.  So I don't necessarily see your hedging as scummy.  But you ARE hedging.

When I said Ashersky up I meant everyone scummier than ashersky including Ashersky. So probably I should have said from Ashersky down... Is that what you found hedgey?

Ohhhhh... Yeah that makes more sense.

[iguanaiguana]

You hedged epically as regards to your top town reads.

Look, I hedge all the time.  So I don't necessarily see your hedging as scummy.  But you ARE hedging.

When I said Ashersky up I meant everyone scummier than ashersky including Ashersky. So probably I should have said from Ashersky down... Is that what you found hedgey?

Ohhhhh... Yeah that makes more sense.

Actually, if you don't mind, I'd like to hear your definition of hedging because you use the word a lot.

Not exactly related to this game but I think it would help us communicate in the future.

[Haddock]

You hedged epically as regards to your top town reads.

Look, I hedge all the time.  So I don't necessarily see your hedging as scummy.  But you ARE hedging.

When I said Ashersky up I meant everyone scummier than ashersky including Ashersky. So probably I should have said from Ashersky down... Is that what you found hedgey?

Ohhhhh... Yeah that makes more sense.

Actually, if you don't mind, I'd like to hear your definition of hedging because you use the word a lot.

Not exactly related to this game but I think it would help us communicate in the future.

I do?  I really don't think I've ever before accused someone else of being hedgey.  I've been accused of it before so I've been forced to use the term.

But OK.


To hedge: to make a statement which leaves all possibilities open (presumably with the intention of being allowed to change one's mind later without looking terrible).
eg.  "I think X is towny, but you never know, he could still be scum I guess."


Again: I really don't think hedging is outright scummy, because most town aren't confident enough to make a read without wanting to temper it.

[Joseph2302]

ahha I'm here. I have my master plan. As an IC i'll play soooo poorly that scum won't want to kill me. and then we get to mylo and i'm still alive. Its perfect.

On a serious note I still have no idea whats happening this game. funnily enough drunk ash is actually making the game move foward a bit so thats good.

Agree, need more drunk Ash to keep the game active.

Joseph, your vote is on Ash. Are you still thinking he's scummy after his latest drinking binge?

Rereading now.

[Joseph2302]

So ash..
Lots of don't make much sense posts, followed by a VT claim.
Either this is a very clever ruse- which seems unlikely from the lack of any quality in his typing prior to the claim- or it's a genuine claim.

I think it must be the latter, so Unvote: ash.

[Joseph2302]

I don't think you can blame igu for this

Me neither, doesn't look like anyone expected ash to claim.

[Joseph2302]

So, let's try and get the game moving, I'm going to post a possible lynch list/summary of claims made:

1. Joseph2302 me, claimed VT
2. Awaclus - lots of posting, seems pro-town to me
3. silverspawn - nothing to claim
4. ashersky - proposed the plan, but didn't claim himself (convenient?)
5. Haddock - nothing to claim, getting a mild scum feel from him
6. Iguanaiguana - claimed to have witness modifier, first claimer = most likely town, seems towny in general
7. 2.71828..... - nothing to claim
8. Witherweaver - claimed Mason #130, but I think that was a joke? Not much else to go on
9. Hydrad - claimed weak vig, seems towny in general

I think the scum are hiding in those that didn't claim (it's the safest place after all), so these claims have just given everyone (including scum) a bit of setup info.
And I think scum!ash would know that this sort of claims would be easy for scum to hide in.
Therefore, I'm leaning towards Vote: ash.

So this leaves me with a potential lynchpool of ss, Haddock, e or WW now.
I guess back to Vote: Haddock for now.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: Joseph

[ashersky]

So...caught up.  That's hilarious or embarrassing.  Or both.

[gkrieg13]

"Singing in the shower is all fun and games until you get shampoo in your mouth.  Then it's a soap opera"

Vote Count 1.5
Joseph2302 (2): Haddock, WW
Haddock (3): 2.7,  Awaclus, Joseph2302
ss (3): Hydrad, iguanaiguana, ashersky
2.7 (1): ss

Not voting (0):

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day1 will end February 19 at 6:00 PM

[ashersky]

We have three days to go.

Someone else should drink and post.

[Haddock]

So...caught up.  That's hilarious or embarrassing.  Or both.

+1

So, let's try and get the game moving, I'm going to post a possible lynch list/summary of claims made:

1. Joseph2302 me, claimed VT
2. Awaclus - lots of posting, seems pro-town to me
3. silverspawn - nothing to claim
4. ashersky - proposed the plan, but didn't claim himself (convenient?)
5. Haddock - nothing to claim, getting a mild scum feel from him
6. Iguanaiguana - claimed to have witness modifier, first claimer = most likely town, seems towny in general
7. 2.71828..... - nothing to claim
8. Witherweaver - claimed Mason #130, but I think that was a joke? Not much else to go on
9. Hydrad - claimed weak vig, seems towny in general

I think the scum are hiding in those that didn't claim (it's the safest place after all), so these claims have just given everyone (including scum) a bit of setup info.
And I think scum!ash would know that this sort of claims would be easy for scum to hide in.
Therefore, I'm leaning towards Vote: ash.

So this leaves me with a potential lynchpool of ss, Haddock, e or WW now.
I guess back to Vote: Haddock for now.

I forget.  Did you present a case against me originally?  If not, can you do so now? 
I still think your voting history is scummy to heck and back.

[Joseph2302]

We have three days to go.

Someone else should drink and post.

Well I've just started drinking today. Give it a few hours, see what happens.

[iguanaiguana]

So, let's try and get the game moving, I'm going to post a possible lynch list/summary of claims made:

1. Joseph2302 me, claimed VT
2. Awaclus - lots of posting, seems pro-town to me
3. silverspawn - nothing to claim
4. ashersky - proposed the plan, but didn't claim himself (convenient?)
5. Haddock - nothing to claim, getting a mild scum feel from him
6. Iguanaiguana - claimed to have witness modifier, first claimer = most likely town, seems towny in general
7. 2.71828..... - nothing to claim
8. Witherweaver - claimed Mason #130, but I think that was a joke? Not much else to go on
9. Hydrad - claimed weak vig, seems towny in general

I think the scum are hiding in those that didn't claim (it's the safest place after all), so these claims have just given everyone (including scum) a bit of setup info.
And I think scum!ash would know that this sort of claims would be easy for scum to hide in.
Therefore, I'm leaning towards Vote: ash.

So this leaves me with a potential lynchpool of ss, Haddock, e or WW now.
I guess back to Vote: Haddock for now.

Why Haddock?

[iguanaiguana]

Maybe it's the great unanswerable question.

[Joseph2302]

Maybe it's the great unanswerable question.

Why not? There's not a good case on anyone really, and from memory there was a wagon/case on him before.

[iguanaiguana]

Maybe it's the great unanswerable question.

Why not? There's not a good case on anyone really, and from memory there was a wagon/case on him before.

Do you know what.. that case... was?

e said some scummy things about how Haddock is scum, that's all I've seen.

[Haddock]

Yeah to my knowledge noone has presented a case better than e's, and that was pretty weak:
a combination of PoE and comments about some things I said when I misunderstood him thanks to his typo.

Joseph, your voting me and "thinking there was already a case" means one of two things:

1) you're town but really need to pay more attention.
2) you're scum.

I could believe either, but since I already think you're scummy...

[2.71828.....]

So, I like mass claims now.

Just looking at the numbers, there is no way we lose this setup.  4 PRs against 2 scum. Like, seriously.

What happens in a massclaim? If only 4 people claim PRs then they are all ICs and town wins. If 5+ people claim PRs we now have a limited lynch pool and can choose from there.

I mean, look at the numbers. 2 VT claims mean right now at most 7 people claim PRs. But really at most it will be 6 people because town doesn't lie, RIGHT?

If we have 6 prs claim, my lynch pool is down to that (+/- my claim, obvs), except I believe igu and hydrad so even less. If scum decides one claim/one doesn't claim (which they can't talk about with no daychat) then we still have limited lynch pools eventually when we catch one.

Regardless, I like a massclaim. I won't claim yet until we talk a bit. But I feel like we can destroy scum with a plan like this kind of like the way my team in village mafia got destroyed

[iguanaiguana]

I mean, probably their JoAT claims a PR and their goon claims vanilla. So wouldn't we actually get better odds lynching a VT?

[2.71828.....]

Yeah, I mean a claim divides is 5/4 probably. PR/non-PR. Then in each respective pool you have really good PoE

[Witherweaver]

So, I like mass claims now.

Just looking at the numbers, there is no way we lose this setup.  4 PRs against 2 scum. Like, seriously.

What happens in a massclaim? If only 4 people claim PRs then they are all ICs and town wins. If 5+ people claim PRs we now have a limited lynch pool and can choose from there.

I mean, look at the numbers. 2 VT claims mean right now at most 7 people claim PRs. But really at most it will be 6 people because town doesn't lie, RIGHT?

If we have 6 prs claim, my lynch pool is down to that (+/- my claim, obvs), except I believe igu and hydrad so even less. If scum decides one claim/one doesn't claim (which they can't talk about with no daychat) then we still have limited lynch pools eventually when we catch one.

Regardless, I like a massclaim. I won't claim yet until we talk a bit. But I feel like we can destroy scum with a plan like this kind of like the way my team in village mafia got destroyed

So you're saying you and Ash are scum?

[2.71828.....]

So you're saying you and Ash are scum?

No. I am saying you could totally be scum

[silverspawn]

okay, I'm on board with a massclaim.