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[2.71828.....]

In a vacuum, very few things are more scummy than asking 'if you are wrong, can we lynch you next'

Why?

Setting up people to be mislynched is scummy

[silverspawn]

good enough for me to vote: RR over you

but that said

I thought about saying this before, and have said it before, but only as scum.

I'm not you.

This is another post that I would only post as scum. I've thought the same thing about faust when there were 2 games where he tunneled me hard.

That doesn't explain why I am more likely to say it as scum than town

eh... I don't like this post. But I - sigh - do think it's a towny post.

[gkrieg13]

How would you like a post that is a case against you?

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not scum. I think the Trump reference is very appropriate.

[faust]

In a vacuum, very few things are more scummy than asking 'if you are wrong, can we lynch you next'

Why?

Setting up people to be mislynched is scummy

But this does not work, does it? If the player who says this is lynched, and is scum, then obviously the other guy wasn't wrong so the setup doesn't work. Maybe I have the wrong context here... I guess if it means "if you are wrong [about other player]" rather than "if you are wrong [about me]" it makes more sense. For some reason I thought it meant the latter.

[silverspawn]

How would you like a post that is a case against you?

I think I'd appreciate (probably not like) it if it had only points that I think are fair, which isn't the case here because it's not fair to say 'I do this as scum, you did it, therefore you're scum'. And it's also unfair in a way that I can't immediately disprove, which fuels the dislike.

[Witherweaver]

In a vacuum, very few things are more scummy than asking 'if you are wrong, can we lynch you next'

Why?

Setting up people to be mislynched is scummy

But this does not work, does it? If the player who says this is lynched, and is scum, then obviously the other guy wasn't wrong so the setup doesn't work. Maybe I have the wrong context here... I guess if it means "if you are wrong [about other player]" rather than "if you are wrong [about me]" it makes more sense. For some reason I thought it meant the latter.

This was the source:

But really guys, let's lynch hydrad. He is totally scum this game. I will figure out why later

If Hydrad is town can we lynch you?

[faust]

How would you like a post that is a case against you?

I think I'd appreciate (probably not like) it if it had only points that I think are fair, which isn't the case here because it's not fair to say 'I do this as scum, you did it, therefore you're scum'. And it's also unfair in a way that I can't immediately disprove, which fuels the dislike.

Every case ever made is biased by your own point of view. At least gkrieg is honest enough to admit that. Saying that it is "unfair" is rubbish.

[silverspawn]

How would you like a post that is a case against you?

I think I'd appreciate (probably not like) it if it had only points that I think are fair, which isn't the case here because it's not fair to say 'I do this as scum, you did it, therefore you're scum'. And it's also unfair in a way that I can't immediately disprove, which fuels the dislike.

Every case ever made is biased by your own point of view. At least gkrieg is honest enough to admit that. Saying that it is "unfair" is rubbish.

No, what you are saying here is rubbish. Having your own point of view is not the same as projecting your own behavior on someone else. gkrieg said (again): 'I do this as scum, you did it, therefore you're scum'. He could have also said: 'You did this as scum here and here and never did this as town'. The first is unfair. The second is not.

[Lekkit]

Kind of busy as it's friday night.

I'm not really a fan of the silverspawn lynch.

I think RR looks pretty bad, but I want to do a reread, which I won't have time for tonight. So if anyone else is able to, have we had anything else than defense and jokes from him?

[Roadrunner7671]

Kind of busy as it's friday night.

I'm not really a fan of the silverspawn lynch.

I think RR looks pretty bad, but I want to do a reread, which I won't have time for tonight. So if anyone else is able to, have we had anything else than defense and jokes from him?

Hi Lekkit!
I've never played with you before, but I hope you could find the time to read a game that I was in where I was town. Possibly Forest Fire Mafia, possibly Board Game mafia, possibly Marval Heros mafia. I hope this will aid you in making your decesion as to whether or not you want to you really want to lynch me.

[2.71828.....]

I love when people make cases against me. That gives me a chance to methodically destroy aforementioned "case" with irrefutable arguments proving my innocence.

I mean, I especially love when the cases have weak points (like gkrieg's). Makes it even easier to point out the flaws and get town cred. I am pretty sure I have made cases against scum partners before that are mostly legit but still easy enough to fight off (maybe not. I should really do this next time I am scum though). Town points all around.

[2.71828.....]

Kind of busy as it's friday night.

I'm not really a fan of the silverspawn lynch.

I think RR looks pretty bad, but I want to do a reread, which I won't have time for tonight. So if anyone else is able to, have we had anything else than defense and jokes from him?

No, but RR does love to play defense all game.

[2.71828.....]

But yeah, you know me. Always down for a good old fashioned RR lynch. Although I don't think he is the best option today

[Roadrunner7671]

But yeah, you know me. Always down for a good old fashioned RR lynch. Although I don't think he is the best option today

Come onnnnnn.

[Ampharos]

Gkreig scum confirmed. 

But we can pursue that at a later date if you are so inclined.

[Witherweaver]

Gkreig scum confirmed. 

But we can pursue that at a later date if you are so inclined.

I don't get it.

[Ampharos]

Just make note of it so when he's scum you can be like "oh yeah Amph said that".  That's all

[A Drowned Kernel]

The thing about gkrieg is that in Board Game, which just finished, I was his scum partner and I specifically coached him to make long reread posts when he was getting lynched, and that helped get the pressure off of him, and that looks like exactly what's happening here. I don't buy that long posts=town!gkrieg.

Ampharos... I don't know, my town read on Teproc is fading in the light of some of Amph's posts. I don't think I want to lynch him today but it warrants a reread of Teproc methinks.

At this point RR is playing to his meta so hard it seems like self-parody. I would lynch RR for sure.

So I guess my lynch pool is still Hydrad, RR, gkrieg.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I love when people make cases against me. That gives me a chance to methodically destroy aforementioned "case" with irrefutable arguments proving my innocence.

I mean, I especially love when the cases have weak points (like gkrieg's). Makes it even easier to point out the flaws and get town cred. I am pretty sure I have made cases against scum partners before that are mostly legit but still easy enough to fight off (maybe not. I should really do this next time I am scum though). Town points all around.

But this also makes me want to lynch e, reminds of that Blitz game where we were scum together and he got caught by being super-jokey about being scum. It's the same self-awareness and bravado. So I guess throw e in the lynch pool too.

[2.71828.....]

The thing about gkrieg is that in Board Game, which just finished, I was his scum partner and I specifically coached him to make long reread posts when he was getting lynched, and that helped get the pressure off of him, and that looks like exactly what's happening here. I don't buy that long posts=town!gkrieg.

Interesting. I assume that is recorded in the scum qt. Might have to go back and look at that

[A Drowned Kernel]

O NOES QT QUOTING

Making a strong case on someone else can help, it doesn't necessarily have to be anyone on your wagon. Or give detailed reads of everyone, with the sentiment "if I'm going to be lynched, I'm going to help town as much as I can before I go."

[2.71828.....]

I love when people make cases against me. That gives me a chance to methodically destroy aforementioned "case" with irrefutable arguments proving my innocence.

I mean, I especially love when the cases have weak points (like gkrieg's). Makes it even easier to point out the flaws and get town cred. I am pretty sure I have made cases against scum partners before that are mostly legit but still easy enough to fight off (maybe not. I should really do this next time I am scum though). Town points all around.

But this also makes me want to lynch e, reminds of that Blitz game where we were scum together and he got caught by being super-jokey about being scum. It's the same self-awareness and bravado. So I guess throw e in the lynch pool too.

You used this exact same argument in another normal game after that blitz game, I forget which one. I was town there too

[A Drowned Kernel]

Then he started making the posts starting here.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I love when people make cases against me. That gives me a chance to methodically destroy aforementioned "case" with irrefutable arguments proving my innocence.

I mean, I especially love when the cases have weak points (like gkrieg's). Makes it even easier to point out the flaws and get town cred. I am pretty sure I have made cases against scum partners before that are mostly legit but still easy enough to fight off (maybe not. I should really do this next time I am scum though). Town points all around.

But this also makes me want to lynch e, reminds of that Blitz game where we were scum together and he got caught by being super-jokey about being scum. It's the same self-awareness and bravado. So I guess throw e in the lynch pool too.

You used this exact same argument in another normal game after that blitz game, I forget which one. I was town there too

It'll be right one of these days. And that post is scummy in a vacuum anyway.