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Author Topic: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Game Over)  (Read 113373 times)

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #725 on: January 21, 2016, 11:15:00 pm »

Town has another problem.  Why is did scum kill gkrieg, and why is Teproc still alive?

I have been wondering this and have not figured it out.

The killing if Gkrieg more than Teproc in particular being left alive.  Town!Teproc does not always die early. 
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #726 on: January 21, 2016, 11:16:18 pm »

WW, if you are actually a vig being fancy, I think you should come clean.

That would be awesome.  Next time I'll line up the double bluff.  More plot twists than an M Night Shyamalan marathon .
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #727 on: January 21, 2016, 11:35:40 pm »

Did he seem to breadcrumb a PR?
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #728 on: January 21, 2016, 11:38:56 pm »

I guess they could have believed I was about to lead a charge against Teproc,  but gkrieg was supporting a Teproc lynch.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #729 on: January 22, 2016, 12:02:33 am »

I'll post my reads just so people know where I stand.
How did I go from being your only townread to being null null? You said I haven't been towny,  in your opinion. vote: RR
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Town:
EFHW
RR

Null:
Teproc
ss
Awaclus

Scummy:
WW
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #730 on: January 22, 2016, 03:35:54 am »

Well scum is hunting PRs I guess, and probably expected me to be a lynch candidate today. Gkrieg is a bit of a strange choice though.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #731 on: January 22, 2016, 03:37:37 am »

So, I believe WW because if he is scum he made situation so much worse. Suppose he is not retracting his clai, we are evntually counterclaimed, and there are 1 scum among 3 claimed PRs and 1 among 4 claimed VTs. Now worse case scenario for town other PR just claim. We'd have 2 scum among 5 claimed VTs and 2 IC. Much better for town

I still want feedback on this
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #732 on: January 22, 2016, 04:59:12 am »

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #733 on: January 22, 2016, 06:32:41 am »

Do people agree with this? Has it changed there read on WW?
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #734 on: January 22, 2016, 07:34:28 am »

I'll post my reads just so people know where I stand.
How did I go from being your only townread to being null null? You said I haven't been towny,  in your opinion. vote: RR
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Town:
EFHW
RR

Null:
Teproc
ss
Awaclus

Scummy:
WW
You stopped scumhunting and started RR targetting. If Haddock or Iguanaiguana were here, they'd tell you RR hunting is scummy.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #735 on: January 22, 2016, 07:35:49 am »

You start the game just as likely to roll scum as anyone else.

Just because you have an indecipherable meta doesn't make you town. You are probably town here, but still, come on.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #736 on: January 22, 2016, 07:36:19 am »

Vote Count 4.6

Awaclus: (1) EgorK
WW: (1) Awaclus
ss: (1) Teproc
RR: (1) EFHW

Not Voting: (3) WW, RR, ss


With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day4 will last 7 days and will end January 26 at 1:00 pm forum time.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #737 on: January 22, 2016, 07:38:12 am »

You start the game just as likely to roll scum as anyone else.

Just because you have an indecipherable meta doesn't make you town. You are probably town here, but still, come on.
Yes, I have a chance to roll scum. But I don't feel like I did scummy stuff this game. And EFHW won't let it go, then it'll come down to MyLo, then we lose (assuming both me and EFHW are in the last three players).
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #738 on: January 22, 2016, 07:38:32 am »

Not voting list is fantastic
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #739 on: January 22, 2016, 07:40:28 am »

You start the game just as likely to roll scum as anyone else.

Just because you have an indecipherable meta doesn't make you town. You are probably town here, but still, come on.
Yes, I have a chance to roll scum. But I don't feel like I did scummy stuff this game. And EFHW won't let it go, then it'll come down to MyLo, then we lose (assuming both me and EFHW are in the last three players).

You worry too much about the possibility of your lynch at some point in the future if some stars align (not to mention EFHW would not just assume her read was correct all along in such a situation).

Worry about where we are now.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #740 on: January 22, 2016, 07:44:13 am »

I'm pretty much on {Silver, Awaclus, RR}, and I'm thinking RR less and less.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #741 on: January 22, 2016, 07:49:16 am »

I'm pretty much on {Silver, Awaclus, RR}, and I'm thinking RR less and less.
Why SS?
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #742 on: January 22, 2016, 08:37:22 am »

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #743 on: January 22, 2016, 08:45:54 am »

I'm pretty much on {Silver, Awaclus, RR}, and I'm thinking RR less and less.
Why SS?

PoE.  EFHW seems townie; I believe Egor; Teproc seems unlikely.
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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #744 on: January 22, 2016, 08:59:31 am »

I'm pretty much on {Silver, Awaclus, RR}, and I'm thinking RR less and less.
Why SS?

PoE.  EFHW seems townie; I believe Egor; Teproc seems unlikely.

go for Awaclus then!

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #745 on: January 22, 2016, 09:06:12 am »

Noticable things in Awaclus reread

-  Not a lot of posts (38 since the game started, to be precise)
- Content-y style, for his standards

Awaclus turned the tide against ashersky.  XP was at L-2 when Awaclus voted ash. Then RR did, and that set off the self-hammer.

@ Awaclus, why didn't you believe ashersky?

His posts that day felt like manipulation techniques to hide the truth rather than emphasize it, he had a reason to do it as scum, XP didn't stand out as scummy to me, and Teproc made good points against ash that I agreed with. To be completely honest, I was also intrigued by the idea of lynching the claimed PR first because I've never done that before and I wanted to try it out (but I still did believe that it had a pretty good chance of being the correct play, I wouldn't have done it otherwise).

- First real thing he does is hardcore commit to the WW tunneling, which is not good because WW is prob town. Also he's paranoid

Because the 'confirmed scum' thing is an obvious act, and you do it as either alignment against town all the time.

It's not an act. It's genuinely way beyond my ability to comprehend why you would do this as town and the fact that other people have done other stuff in the past that was also utterly ridiculous and then turned out to be actually town in those games doesn't change that. There's no way you would do this as town, it's very difficult to imagine scum not killing a claimed town PR for 4 days, and the fact that you're aware of how I react when players are obviously scum is even further proof that there's no way you would do this as town.

The fact that he know you'll tunnel him makes this appealing to him as scum how ?

Well, now I'm getting mislynched over it so that's pretty good for him.

And that's already it.

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #746 on: January 22, 2016, 09:07:03 am »

well, I wouldn't bet a lot on Awaclus being scum here, but he makes for a better lynch than pretty much everyone else I think?

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #747 on: January 22, 2016, 09:09:58 am »

I keep switching to page 1 to see which players are still alive... it'd be helpful to cross them out in the OP

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #748 on: January 22, 2016, 09:12:35 am »

anyway let's do a silver style PoE

EgorK
Awaclus
Teproc
EFHW
WW
RR
silver

that's a lot of green.

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Re: Mafia 74 - X-Shots 2 - Apocalypse Now! (Day4)
« Reply #749 on: January 22, 2016, 09:15:15 am »

anyway let's do a silver style PoE

EgorK
Awaclus
Teproc
EFHW
WW
RR
silver

that's a lot of green.

What do you think of Egor's claim?  Keep in mind that he would still think I was a Vig when he claimed.
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