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[XerxesPraelor]

Players:
1. WW Neighborizing one-shot bulletproof
2. silverspawn Town Tracking Compulsive Lover
3. faust Hiding semi-beloved princess
4. hydrad Vengefully psychological miller
5. gkeirg Mafia Voyeuristic Self Watcher
6. Ampharos Town Bodyguarding Even-Night Doctor
7. 2.7 Town Compulsive Investigative Lover
8. Xerxes roleblocking odd-night gunsmith
9. PPS Copping, Even-Night Bulletproof Serial Killer
10. Roadrunner compulsively loud bodyguard
11. EgorK Weak odd-night doctor
12. iguanaiguana loud babysitting jailkeeper
13. Jimmmmm Town 1-shot Paranoid Gun Owning Innocent Child
14. ash Town Delayed Ninja Jailkeeper

N1.
Faust hides behind Amph, says RR targeted him.
EgorK doctors Faust.
Hydrad psychologizes SS, "can't kill"
RR bodyguards ??
Xerxes rb/gs Jimmm, "has gun"
II jailkeeps e
WW neighborizes PPS.
PPS may kill, cops Jimmm "Town, scum"
Silverspawn dies. E dies.

N2.
Faust hides behind RR.
Hydrad targets ampharos, blocked.
RR bodyguards WW.
Xerxes RB Jimmm.
II jailkeeps Hydrad.
WW neighborizes Iguana.
PPS may kill, cops WW - "scum".
Nobody dies.

N3.
Faust hides behind Ampharos.
EgorK doctors WW.
Hydrad targets Ampharos, blocked.
RR bodyguards WW.
Xerxes RB/GS iguanaiguana, blocked.
II jailkeeps Hydrad.
WW neighborizes Faust, Faust does not appear.
Jimmmm dies. Ampharos dies.

PPE: 8

[XerxesPraelor]

The biggest question here, I think, is whether PPS was telling the truth. If he was, then there's a conflict between his result and EgorK's result on WW. In this case, EgorK's result is easier to mess up, so if PPS was telling the truth, WW is almost certainly scum. However, the result on Jimmmm is very confusing. The only solution I can think for it is scum hiding behind Jimmmm. Since Faust is the only one to claim hider, that makes him the most likely culprit.

If PPS was lying, then WW is almost certainly town, as we have a town result on him.

So I think based on PPS's claims, Faust/WW is a reasonable pairing based on theory. I'm inclined to look elsewhere though.

[XerxesPraelor]

Votes for faust because Ash voted for Faust

Switches to Ash because EgorK claims Faust is town.

This looks like scum actively trying to join in on various townmember's mislynch ideas to make sure that some kind of mislynch goes through.

Are you saying it's bad to vote for someone confirmed to have lied, or for someone copped to be guilty? I mean, this is basic theory. I guess some of it goes out the window with ash, but still.

[XerxesPraelor]

Confirmed (or mason-level confirmed):

WW neighborized N1, N2, N3.
II roleblocked Hydrad N2.
Faust hid N3.
RR is loud.
II is loud.

[Witherweaver]

The sad thing is that I felt so honored by being brought into WW's neighborhood that I fullclaimed to him and put him on my forum buddy list and told him I was super glad that he, me and PPS were all virtually conf!town (we had talked about how he had a strong townread on PPS) and could work together.

I just had no idea at that time.

Obviously my reads are great as PPS turned out to be scum~

[Witherweaver]

Why wasn't Jimmmmm announced as an IC?

[Witherweaver]

Did anyone target Jimmm N1 or N2? If so, my role is confirmed because they didn't die.

Jimmmmm is only 1-shot PGO. I assume he could choose the night of the activation.

Wait, we can ask about dead roles, right?

Is Jimmmmm's 1-shot PGO passive or does it have to be activated?

I don't think so, Paranoid Gun Owner is described as passive: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Paranoid_Gun_Owner

[Witherweaver]

Oh, I see, that's what Xerxes was saying. 

I guess IC can have a variant where it isn't released at the start of the game: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Innocent_Child.  I'm not sure if Roleblocking would affect that.

[Witherweaver]

Day 4:

His claim just looks so fake to me.

I don't know why you think this. 

[Witherweaver]

Roadrunner, who did you target Night 1?

[iguanaiguana]

Day 4:

His claim just looks so fake to me.

I don't know why you think this.

I have already said why. If it is true, it makes you literally the only person in the game with a role that ends with 'Townie'

[iguanaiguana]

Roadrunner, who did you target Night 1?

He said the yellow pokemon guy: Ampharos

[Witherweaver]

Day 4:

His claim just looks so fake to me.

I don't know why you think this.

I have already said why. If it is true, it makes you literally the only person in the game with a role that ends with 'Townie'

So? 

[Witherweaver]

Roadrunner, who did you target Night 1?

He said the yellow pokemon guy: Ampharos

Hmm... so Faust/RR is possible?

[iguanaiguana]

Votes for faust because Ash voted for Faust

Switches to Ash because EgorK claims Faust is town.

This looks like scum actively trying to join in on various townmember's mislynch ideas to make sure that some kind of mislynch goes through.

Are you saying it's bad to vote for someone confirmed to have lied, or for someone copped to be guilty? I mean, this is basic theory. I guess some of it goes out the window with ash, but still.

I don't know how to answer because I don't know what you are asking.

What I am saying about you in general is that you have played like someone who has more knowledge than other people do about alignments in the game. In other words, I think you are mafia.

[yuma]

Vote Count 4.4

witherweaver (1): iguanaiguana

Not Voting (6): Hydrad, faust, witherweaver, EgorK, Xerxes, Roadrunner

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

[EgorK]

Seems like we have another hider who is scum (which would make sense as far as pps result). Faust do not make sense, he would claim something else as scum, considering he was claiming last. WW as odd night hider make sense, I need to look at others as well

[Witherweaver]

Could I really be a Hider and be able to Neighborize?

[EgorK]

Could I really be a Hider and be able to Neighborize?

I don't see why not. I am not sure it is you, just that this is consistent with results

[iguanaiguana]

Seems like we have another hider who is scum (which would make sense as far as pps result). Faust do not make sense, he would claim something else as scum, considering he was claiming last. WW as odd night hider make sense, I need to look at others as well

Would that make sense as far as you not dying when you targeted WW?

I was kinda ignoring the Egor targeting WW thing in terms of WWs scum read and realized after I didn't account for you being weak.

One thing I have noticed is some pairs in the setup.

Two jailkeeps, two doctors, etc. So two hiders makes sense to me also given the overlapping roles.

[iguanaiguana]

So I am actually inclined more to vote Xerxes now because his fakeclaim was also bad, behavior is similarly scummy but unlike WW he has no alibi from Egor

[faust]

The biggest question here, I think, is whether PPS was telling the truth. If he was, then there's a conflict between his result and EgorK's result on WW. In this case, EgorK's result is easier to mess up, so if PPS was telling the truth, WW is almost certainly scum. However, the result on Jimmmm is very confusing. The only solution I can think for it is scum hiding behind Jimmmm. Since Faust is the only one to claim hider, that makes him the most likely culprit.

Yeah, so... it makes no sense for scum!me to actually claim Hider there. I throw away Egor's town result on me and make myself suspicious because of the Jimmmmm thing... for what benefit exactly?

[faust]

So I am actually inclined more to vote Xerxes now because his fakeclaim was also bad, behavior is similarly scummy but unlike WW he has no alibi from Egor

I think we can agree on Xerxes.

Vote: Xerxes

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote Xerxes

[faust]

Roadrunner, who did you target Night 1?

He said the yellow pokemon guy: Ampharos

Hmm... so Faust/RR is possible?

I don't follow.