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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2015, 01:25:10 am »

I have reasons to tell y'all that I'm doctor. Discuss
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2015, 03:02:50 am »

I have reasons to tell y'all that I'm doctor. Discuss

As a doctor, EgorK should attempt to predict who scum will target at night and protect them. 

As a part of the setup, I don't want to discuss what hypothetical reasons that exist for why EgorK would want to share this information.  I am satisfied that he has claimed doctor and am happy to leave it at that.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #77 on: October 31, 2015, 03:42:30 am »

I have reasons to tell y'all that I'm doctor. Discuss

As a doctor, EgorK should attempt to predict who scum will target at night and protect them. 

As a part of the setup, I don't want to discuss what hypothetical reasons that exist for why EgorK would want to share this information.  I am satisfied that he has claimed doctor and am happy to leave it at that.

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #78 on: October 31, 2015, 05:24:40 am »

Last night I had a dream. This game was already open and I was going to make the first post, but when I submitted it, two other people had already posted before me. One of them was IG.

Now that that's said, on to less important stuff

I have reasons to tell y'all that I'm doctor. Discuss

I don't want to discuss (...)

I don't want to discuss (...)
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #79 on: October 31, 2015, 05:25:18 am »

EgorK thinks it's a good idea to discuss this? e, hydrad, why do you disagree?

vote: e

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2015, 06:13:03 am »

EgorK thinks it's a good idea to discuss this? e, hydrad, why do you disagree?

vote: e

Its probably actually good to discuss it. For the sake of getting out of RVS. bad for the sake of potentially figuring out why egork claimed it and might help scum.

but mainly I just did the ^ since I liked e's post. I wouldn't be terribly against discussing it.

Although discussing why we should be discussing it is also a nice way of getting potentially out of RVS and we don't even have to potentially expose a PR! Woo
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2015, 06:53:07 am »

EgorK thinks it's a good idea to discuss this? e, hydrad, why do you disagree?

vote: e

Its probably actually good to discuss it. For the sake of getting out of RVS. bad for the sake of potentially figuring out why egork claimed it and might help scum.

but mainly I just did the ^ since I liked e's post. I wouldn't be terribly against discussing it.

Although discussing why we should be discussing it is also a nice way of getting potentially out of RVS and we don't even have to potentially expose a PR! Woo

vote: Hydrad

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2015, 07:13:27 am »

EgorK thinks it's a good idea to discuss this? e, hydrad, why do you disagree?

vote: e

Its probably actually good to discuss it. For the sake of getting out of RVS. bad for the sake of potentially figuring out why egork claimed it and might help scum.

but mainly I just did the ^ since I liked e's post. I wouldn't be terribly against discussing it.

Although discussing why we should be discussing it is also a nice way of getting potentially out of RVS and we don't even have to potentially expose a PR! Woo

vote: Hydrad

it felt like a good post to me.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2015, 08:25:28 am »

I have reasons to tell y'all that I'm doctor. Discuss

Possiblity A: Egor is town. If Egor is town, I'm inclined to believe that he is the doctor, as players who are town should not lie about their roles, since that doesn't help anyone accomplish anything and Egor is an at least competent player. So in this case:

1) He is actually doctor, but has some modification on his role that makes it virtually pointless for him to keep this fact hidden. This modification would have to be somewhat unusual as normally the doctor wants to stay hidden and will be targeted fairly quickly by scum if he doesn't stay hidden.
2) He has some other reason for attracting the attention of scum.

Possibility B: Egor is scum. In this case, he may or may not be the doctor, but:

1) if he is the doctor he is a scum doctor who can save fellow scum from being killed by other factions of scum and we should definitely lynch him. OR:
2) He's just messing with us to confuse us, because he's scum, and we'd better lynch him.

From what I've read, Egor doesn't strike me as the sort of scum to just lie and claim doctor to troll the town, so overall I'm getting a slight town read on EgorK, maybe 60% important town, 40% really dangerous scum.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2015, 08:44:06 am »

maybe 60% important town, 40% really dangerous scum.

that would be a pretty strong scum read.

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2015, 08:45:32 am »

maybe 60% important town, 40% really dangerous scum.

that would be a pretty strong scum read.

Why? Wouldn't a "null" be 50/50?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #86 on: October 31, 2015, 09:47:47 am »

maybe 60% important town, 40% really dangerous scum.

that would be a pretty strong scum read.

Why? Wouldn't a "null" be 50/50?

Null would be roughly 3/13 (give or take depending on how many scum you think there are likely to be).
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #87 on: October 31, 2015, 09:54:33 am »

maybe 60% important town, 40% really dangerous scum.

that would be a pretty strong scum read.

Why? Wouldn't a "null" be 50/50?

Null would be roughly 3/13 (give or take depending on how many scum you think there are likely to be).

Okay, understood. What I meant to say is that his statement about having a reason to claim doctor seems to be more like something that a town member would say for an actual reason than something that scum would fake in order to trick us, although one statement is certainly not enough to convince me that he is town and being sincere.

As you've pointed out, there are fewer scum than town so if you're good at math feel free to skew my percentages for greater accuracy.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #88 on: October 31, 2015, 10:23:42 am »

Hi.

Egor is totally town. As to why he claimed wha he did, I have no clue. I mean, I could try to match the various roles that are possible this game with Doctor, and see if any of them leads to him being willing to claim... I don't see the upside of this exercise though.

Also, I agree with silver.

Vote: e
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #89 on: October 31, 2015, 10:24:15 am »

And I like the iguana. Can I keep it?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #90 on: October 31, 2015, 10:29:22 am »

No keeping mafia pets!  E sounds like e trying to get town points. Normally you would want to stop people from discussing claims. I think in RMM it's fine to talk about claims because part of the fun is to piece together how things work.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Sign Ups Now Open)
« Reply #91 on: October 31, 2015, 10:38:23 am »

The list in the OP is horrible. I'm trying to make it more readable.

1-shot
Absorber, Alien, Arsonist, Ascetic
Babysitter, Backup, Beloved Princess, Bodyguard, Bomb, Bulletproof, Bus Driver
Commuter, Compassionate, Compulsive, Cop
Day, Day-X, Delayed, Deflector, Deputy, Desperado, Despondent, Detective, Doc, Doomed
Enabler, Even Number
Faith Healer, Firefighter, Follower, Friendly, Fruit Vendor
Gladiator, Godfather, Governor, Gunsmith
Hated, Harrowing, Heroic, Hider
Innocent Child, Inspired, Investigative, Investigation Immune
Jailor, Janitor, JK, Joat (of any combinations), Juvenile
Lighting Rod, Loud, Loved, Lover, Loyal
Mailman, Mason, Mentee, Mentor, Miller, Motion Detector
Neighbor, Night-X, Ninja, Novice, Nurse
Odd Number
Paranoid Gun Owning, Poisoner, Prime Number, Psychiatrist, Psychologist
Redirector, Reflexive, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper
Seer, Self, Semi, Serial Killer, Seraph Knight, Side Kick, Simple, Strongman, Strong-willed, Suicidal, Survivor
Tracker, Traitor, Triggerer
Universal
Vengeful, Vigilante, Virgin, Voyeur
Warden, Watcher, Weak, Werewolves
x-day, x-shot

The bolded roles have no entry in the mafiascum wiki. yuma, can you tell us what they do?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #92 on: October 31, 2015, 10:47:27 am »

I changed my mind.

Vote: silverspawn
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2015, 10:48:33 am »

I have figured out the reason for Egor's claim: He wants to be night killed rather than lynched for once.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2015, 10:48:41 am »

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2015, 10:49:19 am »

I have figured out the reason for Egor's claim: He wants to be night killed rather than lynched for once.

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2015, 10:50:08 am »

I changed my mind.

Vote: silverspawn

Why the change in opinion?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #97 on: October 31, 2015, 10:54:10 am »

I changed my mind.

Vote: silverspawn

Why the change in opinion?
vote: faust

Because e's post is less of a grab for towncred than silver's. I'm skeptical whether town!silver would actually trust that Egor knows what he's doing.

Why is me changing my opinion scummy?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #98 on: October 31, 2015, 11:08:20 am »

I changed my mind.

Vote: silverspawn

Why the change in opinion?
vote: faust

Because e's post is less of a grab for towncred than silver's. I'm skeptical whether town!silver would actually trust that Egor knows what he's doing.

Why is me changing my opinion scummy?

It was just how fast you changed your opinion without either of them posting in between.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day1)
« Reply #99 on: October 31, 2015, 11:11:09 am »

I changed my mind.

Vote: silverspawn

Why the change in opinion?
vote: faust

Because e's post is less of a grab for towncred than silver's. I'm skeptical whether town!silver would actually trust that Egor knows what he's doing.

Why is me changing my opinion scummy?

It was just how fast you changed your opinion without either of them posting in between.

I repeat my question.
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