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[Witherweaver]

WW lynch could be fun.

It never has been before.

[ashersky]

WW lynch could be fun.

It never has been before.

You've never been lynched, though.  We should try.

[Witherweaver]

WW lynch could be fun.

It never has been before.

You've never been lynched, though.  We should try.

That's not true, I've been lynched before.  It's just never been a productive thing.

[yuma]

That's actually pretty good, though.  I think Yuma's position is scummy, however.  Given that his argument is pure policy.

Why is that scummy? As opposed to townie? Or more likely neutral?

[yuma]

Vote: TwistedArcher

unvote

[Witherweaver]

That's actually pretty good, though.  I think Yuma's position is scummy, however.  Given that his argument is pure policy.

Why is that scummy? As opposed to townie? Or more likely neutral?

Eh, I feel like your sticking with your PPS vote is a little forced. 

[yuma]

That's actually pretty good, though.  I think Yuma's position is scummy, however.  Given that his argument is pure policy.

Why is that scummy? As opposed to townie? Or more likely neutral?

Eh, I feel like your sticking with your PPS vote is a little forced.

Isn't a policy vote by definition something that is forced? Does town do policy votes? Rhetorical question... of course they do. So what makes my policy vote scummy?

[Witherweaver]

That's actually pretty good, though.  I think Yuma's position is scummy, however.  Given that his argument is pure policy.

Why is that scummy? As opposed to townie? Or more likely neutral?

Eh, I feel like your sticking with your PPS vote is a little forced.

Isn't a policy vote by definition something that is forced? Does town do policy votes? Rhetorical question... of course they do. So what makes my policy vote scummy?

At some point town develops actual reads.

[Hydrad]

hmm I wanna go Vote: WW

but he seems townyish... so I'm changing my mind in the time that I wrote this sentence and am going with

Vote: Gkreig

hes not feeling super towny so that means hes scum. This game is easy.

[yuma]

At some point town develops actual reads.

I have reads, just not necessarily on PPS because he has been camouflaged in his self-voting (which is why I dislike it so much).

And it is like still day1 of day1.

And you still aren't answering my actual question. But I'll let it slide for now...

[Witherweaver]

At some point town develops actual reads.

I have reads, just not necessarily on PPS because he has been camouflaged in his self-voting (which is why I dislike it so much).

And it is like still day1 of day1.

And you still aren't answering my actual question. But I'll let it slide for now...

I answered your question the first time: it's a feeling for me.  Yes you could have done it as town or scum, no there isn't a good argument to convince anyone it was scum, it just felt that way to me. 

[Witherweaver]

Plus it's also one of those things that I think you would do as town and therefore you doing it is a little bit scummy.  I feel the same way about you proposing the massclaim, though I didn't bring it up before. 

[ashersky]

hmm I wanna go Vote: WW

but he seems townyish... so I'm changing my mind in the time that I wrote this sentence and am going with

Vote: Gkreig

hes not feeling super towny so that means hes scum. This game is easy.

Silly hydrad is often scum!hydrad.  Plus, bad vote.

vote: hydrad

[yuma]

You are right. You did answer. You just didn't answer the way I wanted you to, which is something that I am trying to shed--the constant hounding of people to answer the way I want to. Sorry I didn't quite lay off in time. Some habits are harder to break.

And you are absolutely right that policy voting is something that I would do as town and would totally replicate as mafia, and have replicated as mafia in the past before. But just because I could doesn't mean I am is the point I am trying to make.

[Witherweaver]

hmm I wanna go Vote: WW

but he seems townyish... so I'm changing my mind in the time that I wrote this sentence and am going with

Vote: Gkreig

hes not feeling super towny so that means hes scum. This game is easy.

Silly hydrad is often scum!hydrad.  Plus, bad vote.

vote: hydrad

I'll bit

Vote: Hydrad

[Witherweaver]

Bite

[gkrieg13]

Wow you guys sure post a lot.

I still see no serious answer to my question.  Why is it good for masons to claim D1? 

PPE 5

[Witherweaver]

You are right. You did answer. You just didn't answer the way I wanted you to, which is something that I am trying to shed--the constant hounding of people to answer the way I want to. Sorry I didn't quite lay off in time. Some habits are harder to break.

And you are absolutely right that policy voting is something that I would do as town and would totally replicate as mafia, and have replicated as mafia in the past before. But just because I could doesn't mean I am is the point I am trying to make.

Yeah.  But I also imagine putting myself in your shoes, just back to a Mafia game after a break with a bunch of older players that know meta pretty well.. and I roll Mafia, I might start thinking about what my known town meta looks like and maybe try a little harder to do those things.

[yuma]

haha... I can see that.

Except I am actively trying to shed my old meta in many, many ways (being confrontational, uberaggressive, posting a lot--I know I am posting a lot now, but that is because I am while I can, you will likely see a significant drop from me cause when i can't I won't be active at all--being super against plans and claiming... generally trying to even my keel out quite a bit more.

But disliking self voting is something that I just can't shake!

[Twistedarcher]

Wow you guys sure post a lot.

I still see no serious answer to my question.  Why is it good for masons to claim D1? 

PPE 5

Because while it's possible scum fakeclaims masons, I'd argue it's rare, and it's easy for them both to be caught out later if it's a fakeclaim. And two ICs is very good.

[Hydrad]

hmm I wanna go Vote: WW

but he seems townyish... so I'm changing my mind in the time that I wrote this sentence and am going with

Vote: Gkreig

hes not feeling super towny so that means hes scum. This game is easy.

Silly hydrad is often scum!hydrad.  Plus, bad vote.

vote: hydrad

Often!=is

so i'm town this time.

[Hydrad]

haha... I can see that.

Except I am actively trying to shed my old meta in many, many ways (being confrontational, uberaggressive, posting a lot--I know I am posting a lot now, but that is because I am while I can, you will likely see a significant drop from me cause when i can't I won't be active at all--being super against plans and claiming... generally trying to even my keel out quite a bit more.

But disliking self voting is something that I just can't shake!

town yuma imo!

although I don't think i've played many with yuma to know his meta.

still feels towny

[Hydrad]

also my gkrieg vote a serious vote and not jokey. in case people thought it was a RVS vote.

but right now I'm actually looking at ashersky. something feels out of place in this post.

hmm I wanna go Vote: WW

but he seems townyish... so I'm changing my mind in the time that I wrote this sentence and am going with

Vote: Gkreig

hes not feeling super towny so that means hes scum. This game is easy.

Silly hydrad is often scum!hydrad.  Plus, bad vote.

vote: hydrad

I don't know whats making me feel weird about it though. Just is giving me a bad feeling.

so asher is scummyish to me currently

[Witherweaver]

Lynching Hydrad feels good.

It always feels good, so take that as you will.  Anyway, no reason not to recklessly vote someone else up to L-1, so everyone jump on.

Notably, we forgot to force PPS to claim when he was at L-1 (if he ever really was).  Lost opportunities.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Sorry, guys.  Computer troubles.

I should be able to be on at more length tonight, and don't think I need to declare V/LA yet, as I think I can get on every day.

I may catch up on this in the next hour or so, or might not be back until late tonight.

I haven't read anything but see something about L-1. CAN WE PLEASE STOP IT WITH THESE HYPER-SHORT DAYS.  Early L-1 is good, but let's let days last until everyone has time to talk about things.