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[gkrieg13]

I'd actually tend to think that killing someone with a coin is less related to any characters that would be considered scum.
There's only like one I can think of.

Although faust doesn't seem like a vigilante kill (vig? is that the right abbreviation?) because only one person thought he was mafia.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I'd actually tend to think that killing someone with a coin is less related to any characters that would be considered scum.
There's only like one I can think of.

Although faust doesn't seem like a vigilante kill (vig? is that the right abbreviation?) because only one person thought he was mafia.

And I'll go ahead and claim right now that I did not vig Faust.

(The real question is whether you pronounce it vig like "pig" or vig like "vigil".  I'm a fan of the hard 'i' sound myself.)

[EFHW]

I'd actually tend to think that killing someone with a coin is less related to any characters that would be considered scum.
There's only like one I can think of.

Although faust doesn't seem like a vigilante kill (vig? is that the right abbreviation?) because only one person thought he was mafia.

And I'll go ahead and claim right now that I did not vig Faust.

(The real question is whether you pronounce it vig like "pig" or vig like "vigil".  I'm a fan of the hard 'i' sound myself.)

definitely like "pig" (imho)
Why are you claiming here?  B/c you were the only one to suspect faust?
I agree about the nk not having any bearing on whether e is scum or not.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I'd actually tend to think that killing someone with a coin is less related to any characters that would be considered scum.
There's only like one I can think of.

Although faust doesn't seem like a vigilante kill (vig? is that the right abbreviation?) because only one person thought he was mafia.

And I'll go ahead and claim right now that I did not vig Faust.

(The real question is whether you pronounce it vig like "pig" or vig like "vigil".  I'm a fan of the hard 'i' sound myself.)

definitely like "pig" (imho)
Why are you claiming here?  B/c you were the only one to suspect faust?
I agree about the nk not having any bearing on whether e is scum or not.

It's not a claim of anything but the fact that I didn't kill Faust.  Not sayin' I'm a vig, not sayin' I a'int.

And yeah, I mention it because I'm the only one who suspected Faust and the point is speculating about whether it wasn't a normal mafia kill is silly.

[Seprix]

Faust is a vig kill? Why are we even considering this? If this is true, then one of two things must happen.

1. Someone roleblocked scum.
2. Scum decided to not lynch D1 for a reason.

Do any of these make any probable sense?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Faust is a vig kill? Why are we even considering this? If this is true, then one of two things must happen.

1. Someone roleblocked scum.
2. Scum decided to not lynch D1 for a reason.

Do any of these make any probable sense?

[Seprix]

Faust is a vig kill? Why are we even considering this? If this is true, then one of two things must happen.

1. Someone roleblocked scum.
2. Scum decided to not lynch D1 for a reason.

Do any of these make any probable sense?

What, am I wrong?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I was trying to head off a useless line of inquiry so we wouldn't get distracted.

When there's 1 NK, on a person 99% of the players were townreading, it's almost always a scum NK.
There is one player who hypothetically would have vigged him (me).
Thinking that I would move us along faster, I said that I didn't vig him, therefore it's a scum NK as Occam's Razor would predict.
No one reads my post.
Talk more about what it means that he was a vig kill.

Could type 1000 words about this, but thought the picture expressed my feelings better.

[Seprix]

I was trying to head off a useless line of inquiry so we wouldn't get distracted.

When there's 1 NK, on a person 99% of the players were townreading, it's almost always a scum NK.
There is one player who hypothetically would have vigged him (me).
Thinking that I would move us along faster, I said that I didn't vig him, therefore it's a scum NK as Occam's Razor would predict.
No one reads my post.
Talk more about what it means that he was a vig kill.

Could type 1000 words about this, but thought the picture expressed my feelings better.

Lol, I didn't read your post. I know you didn't kill him anyways, you wouldn't be talking about it and it's statistically unlikely besides.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

And for what it's worth, if I'm a vig, no way do I shoot N1 like that.  But anyway, TA is probably scum.

[Seprix]

I concur. Tis likely. So, any other possible scum leads?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

XP and Faust were my top scum reads on D1, so I'm basically starting over.  Probably going to do a complete reread with those in mind tonight or tomorrow.

You're feeling townier today for what that's worth, some of that comes from your behavior around the end of yesterday.

Not much else to go on yet.  I'm sure there will be more as the day develops.

[Seprix]

I remember Ghacob was scummy last I checked, but again. I will do some rereads based off of tonight.

[mail-mi]

BACK!

XP might have been confused about the "you are aligned with the Survivor" win con, and would have been town.

I like UoS on TA but will hold off on a vote for now until I can get my head on straight.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.2:

2.7 (3): gkrieg13, EFHW, hockeysemlan
TwistedArcher (3):  UmbrageOfSnow, 2.7, Seprix

Not Voting (9): chairs, WW, IG, Ghacob, Hydrad, Silverspawn, EgorK, TA, mail-mi

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 2 ends on July 17 at 9:00 p.m.

[silverspawn]

1. mail-mi Always Lurky Pass
2. Ichimaru Gin Emotional Pass
4. EgorK Sympathy Pass
5. 2.7 Likes giving passes pass
7. Hydrad Always Scummy Pass
9. Chairs Townsilp Pass
11. hockeysemian New Player Pass
12. Seprix Always Scummy Pass
13. TwistedArcher Sympathy Pass
14. XerxesPraelor Early Wagon Pass
15. gkrieg13 Against Tradition
16. EFHW Pass for giving me an award
17. UmbrageOfSnow Pass for being myself.

I don't get a sympathy pass? 

[silverspawn]

Reads so far based mostly on the reread:

Town: chairs > hockey > EFHW
Scum: Seprix > e > Egork

[silverspawn]

UoS I really hope is town but unfortunately didn't get a townread on.

[silverspawn]

mh... I feel like I have really bad reads when I'm casually reading along like I did until today. But at least people find me towny, so I guess at least I'm easy to read?

Seprix has this whole not following thing which I arrived at now. Not sure how much town cred I shold give him for that. Last time he was like 'I have Aspergers and am kind of flailing in a big puffy cloud of air right now' he was scum.

I'm as good as lynched today. I'm just accepting it, really. I guess better luck next time for me.

this is just so idk.

okay, disregard my previous reads list, that was only halfway through day 1

this one is much better.

Scum: e > WW > Hydrad > IG > Egork = Seprix
Town:  TA > EFHW > chairs > gkrieg

[silverspawn]

explanations

e for how he's towny on first glance (very scumish e thing) but also blends in without doing that much. his case on XP was forced and, more importantly, XP was town so pushing it was bad. And faust tunneled him.

WW mostly for his position on the XP wagon, this vote on Seprix, the fact that faust tentatively called him scummy and his reads list. also blending in.

Hydrad for blending in and casually hammering town

IG exclusively for lurking and silently joining the town wagon. I give quite a lot of significance to wagon position because I think the alternate wagon might have been on scum.

Egork is just a feeling... I think there was a particular post I didn't like, but I don't remember. He was actually off wagon though, but he also likes to buss. maybe null. Seprix has a ton of scummy behavior but also I still find his flailing kind of towny. I mean, I wouldn't be able to genuinely give up if scum buddies depend on me. He also was on wagon

TA
- was really active and made sense
- said we're all ridiculous when a wagon formed on him - that's a town trait
- deflected from the XP wagon and stated early that he doesn't want him to be lynched. Instead is on e

EFHW is more of a presence than in Kirby mafia where she was scum, and similiarly to Guilds where she was town, so that's the meta observation, I guess. More importantly, she also was on e and only switched to XP after he claimed survivor, and the reasoning feels genuine.

chairs the flip is probably real and he feels joky and fun which seems to be a town trait

gkrieg is purely a gut feeling

[silverspawn]

vote: e

[silverspawn]

what's your favorite anime?

[silverspawn]

oh and I stopped at the beginning of day2... I was running out of energy. I feel like nothing big has happened there though.

[silverspawn]

I don't know, but will sheep you

vote: TA

I like the analysis, and I thought he was scummy yesterday.  His voting history just doesn't add up as town in my opinion.

come on

[hockeysemlan]

Reread the game now and yeah.. it didn't give very much. Still have the same gutfeeling as I had at first glance today. The XP-lynch felt very forced and without any really good case as I see it. Strange also because I figured Seprix was the first choice if not e, so yeah.. I assume there's a couple of scum on that wagon for today.

Like Silvers thinking above, great townread on you for now..