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And TA just realized how scummy his seprix vote was

[Twistedarcher]

This last series of posts makes me feel townier on Seprix. I don't feel really good about this wagon. Can we lynch e instead? That would be great. I thought it was common knowledge by now that everyone should sheep me D1

Which posts and why?

[Twistedarcher]

Not really feeling the push for the e lynch.

Off the top of my head:
Scummy: xp
50/50: TA, silverspawn, seprix, hockey, hydrad, faust
Townie: gkrieg, chairs, UoS
Null: witherweaver, efhw, mail-mi, ichi, ghacob, egork

whats the difference between 50/50 and null?

50/50 people have more stuff I renege than null people. Like you. I had a town read on you, but then your most recent posts have not felt right. Like "switching to where your vote is useful" then going full hedge just now. Which makes me think scum. But I had that town read. So I am more conflicted about you.

Not as conflicted about some of the others (silverspawn being silverspawn. Flip a coin) but just more stuff is out about them and I don't know.

PPE: null is no read. 50/50 I have thought about and don't know. More likely to vote in the 50/50 section than the null

gee my recent stuff is scummy? no wonder, a lot of it is calling you out as scummy!

[2.71828.....]

my head says e, my gut says seprix (but both say uos) i don't know which one i should trust more.

vote: 2.7
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Then why are you not voting UoS? This makes no sense unless you are trying to just go with the popular wagon. Which is scummy

Vote: TA

[Twistedarcher]

my head says e, my gut says seprix (but both say uos) i don't know which one i should trust more.

vote: 2.7

Then why are you not voting UoS? This makes no sense unless you are trying to just go with the popular wagon. Which is scummy

Vote: TA
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dude you're reaching. i'd love to lynch UoS but it's clearly not going to happen. i'm fine tabling until tomorrow.

every post you make is making me want to lynch you more and more.

[2.71828.....]

Quote fail. But seriously. TA is voting me. Awesome. Good for him. Switched to the "useful" wagon. Realizes it was a bad idea, then switches back to me.

Scummy. I would call it scummy of he was switching back and forth like that on anyone

[Twistedarcher]

vote: 2.7 cuz of quote fail

[Witherweaver]

Why do people want to lynch UoS?

[Twistedarcher]

#287 UoS votes Faust for pushing PR/VT discussion. Second time he's voted for setup stuff. Seems to be scumhunting based on setup, not on reads. NOTE to self -- lookback and see where he's had actual reads.

My quick scan of all of UoS' posts is definitely enough for a Vote: UoS . All of his gameplay has been centered around roles and setups (not talking about them explicitly, but rather voting and suspecting the people (XP, Faust) who have driven discussion in that direction). These read as more policy positions than actual reads though. He's been able to skate by D1 based solely on driving XP and Faust, rather than commenting on the actual gameplay-driven wagons (Seprix, Gkrieg come to mind, maybe others?) He's definitely not participating in any parts of the game that require him to put down opinions and I think is playing a very background game in terms of actually working towards a correct lynch based on gameplay, even while maintaining high activity levels.

(Also, XP over Gkrieg is probably clear, given his past suspicion).

I know this might not be a feasible lynch and I'm definitely going to move my vote elsewhere if it's not going to happen today, but I'm interested in what others have to say. It looks like he's gotten mostly town reads thus far.

[EFHW]

And TA just realized how scummy his seprix vote was

I think his switch just now is scummier.  I mean, I think you are scummy, so I'm glad to see him on the wagon from that standpoint, but if he's town and thinks Seprix is scum, why get off that wagon, which looks likely to go to lynch?  Him and chairs - making strange wagon switches.  It could mean they are partners with him, or it could mean they know he is town and don't want to be caught on the wagon (or some other weird role-related reason, I guess).

[Witherweaver]

And

Vote: TA

PPEs

[Twistedarcher]

you're all being super ridiculous.

[gkrieg13]

Could we also have two groups of scum?  That could be a reason to switch between a few different people as scum.  Maybe you think that one of them is on the other scum team but don't know which? 

PPE:1

[EFHW]

Why do people want to lynch UoS?

Who else besides TA and faust wants to lynch him?

[Witherweaver]

Could we also have two groups of scum?  That could be a reason to switch between a few different people as scum.  Maybe you think that one of them is on the other scum team but don't know which? 

PPE:1

Um... I'm not sure what you're trying to deduce from this.

[Witherweaver]

Why do people want to lynch UoS?

Who else besides TA and faust wants to lynch him?

I don't know, it seems like it has come up a number of times. 

[Twistedarcher]

Why do people want to lynch UoS?

Who else besides TA and faust wants to lynch him?

I don't know, it seems like it has come up a number of times.

it hasn't.

[Twistedarcher]

you know what's scummy? picking a wagon and sticking with it because that's your 'artificial' point of view and you're going to stick with it. scum decides where they want to stand on an issue and stands there for consistency.

you know what's not scummy? changing your mind on an issue where you're close between the two candidates and you were mistaken on the feasibility of one target. when faust corrected me i changed back.

[gkrieg13]

I was really just trying to think of all the possibilities.  People switching their votes from the main wagon without an explanation at this point seems scummy to me.  I don't have the experience to develop the thought completely so I was hoping someone could take it and explain it better.  Maybe this post just made it even more confusing.

I'll try this. 

Imagine TA is scum.  He thinks that Seprix and e are 1 town / 1 other scum team.  He isn't sure so he rereads the day and realizes that he may be lynching a mafia from the other team of mafia. 

Or does eliminating the other team of mafia make it easier for the one team?

Does that make any more sense?

PPE:2

[Witherweaver]

Okay, reading UoS, your case against him isn't as unfair as I originally thought.

PPE: Faust didn't say anything to "correct" you, he just said "go back to e" and you did.

[Twistedarcher]

Not sure how long I'll be around tomorrow and I want my vote somewhere useful. vote: seprix

Hey, hey, your vote was very useful on e!

Really, this is a bit weird. e was like the second biggest wagon. Why do you think your vote isn't useful there?

[Witherweaver]

I was really just trying to think of all the possibilities.  People switching their votes from the main wagon without an explanation at this point seems scummy to me.  I don't have the experience to develop the thought completely so I was hoping someone could take it and explain it better.  Maybe this post just made it even more confusing.

I'll try this. 

Imagine TA is scum.  He thinks that Seprix and e are 1 town / 1 other scum team.  He isn't sure so he rereads the day and realizes that he may be lynching a mafia from the other team of mafia. 

Or does eliminating the other team of mafia make it easier for the one team?

Does that make any more sense?

PPE:2

Mafia lynching a separate Mafia team is good, because it gives them town cred, especially for as long as we don't know there is more than one team.  But what would be different from town!TA in your scenario?  He would also want to hit scum.

[Witherweaver]

Not sure how long I'll be around tomorrow and I want my vote somewhere useful. vote: seprix

Hey, hey, your vote was very useful on e!

Really, this is a bit weird. e was like the second biggest wagon. Why do you think your vote isn't useful there?

Okay, I missed the second part.

[Twistedarcher]

Not sure how long I'll be around tomorrow and I want my vote somewhere useful. vote: seprix

Hey, hey, your vote was very useful on e!

Really, this is a bit weird. e was like the second biggest wagon. Why do you think your vote isn't useful there?

it feels like you're just trying to find stuff that makes me scummy rather than seeing if my actions are actually towny or scummy

[Twistedarcher]

I was really just trying to think of all the possibilities.  People switching their votes from the main wagon without an explanation at this point seems scummy to me.  I don't have the experience to develop the thought completely so I was hoping someone could take it and explain it better.  Maybe this post just made it even more confusing.

I'll try this. 

Imagine TA is scum.  He thinks that Seprix and e are 1 town / 1 other scum team.  He isn't sure so he rereads the day and realizes that he may be lynching a mafia from the other team of mafia. 

Or does eliminating the other team of mafia make it easier for the one team?

Does that make any more sense?

PPE:2

I mean sure i suppose that's feasible. but how is that different than a town member trying to decide between one town and one scum? not that i think this is a one town/one scum scenario or anything. i'm fine with either.