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Cards that could have been Events?
« on: April 23, 2015, 11:15:22 pm »
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Cache
Event - $5
Gain a Gold and 2 Coppers

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Masterpiece
Event - $3+
Gain a Copper. When you buy this you may overpay. Gain a Silver for each $1 you overpay.

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Ill Gotten Gains
Event - $5
Gain a Copper and a Silver. Each other player gains a Curse

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"Special Village"
Action - 3*
+1 Card
+2 Actions
This card is not in the supply

Port
Event - $4
Gain 2 Special Villages from the Special Village pile.

Border Village
Event - $6
Gain a card costing less than this and a Special Village from the Special Village pile.

Bazaar
Event - $5
Move your +$1 token to the Special Village pile. Gain a Special Village from the Special Village pile.

Worker's Village
Event - $4
Move your +1 Buy token to the Special Village pile. Gain a Special Village from the Special Village pile.

Lost City
Event - $5
Move your +1 Card token to the Special Village pile. Gain a Special Village from the Special Village pile. Each other player draws a card.

Village
Event - $3
Gain a Special Village from the Special Village pile.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2015, 12:08:11 am »
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I like the Ill-Gotten Gains event. Gaining a Copper and a Silver is a good idea. I think the whole "Special Village" idea is an interesting thought exercise, but I wouldn't want villages to actually work that way.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2015, 12:37:09 am »
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Border Village would be noticeably weaker if it didn't have a $6 cost in your deck.

Of course, the fact that the Event has a fixed $6 cost would in turn make it stronger with cost reducers.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2015, 10:30:24 am »
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I don't know if Trash for Benefit loopholing is my favorite Dominion gameplay anyway, really.

Border Village for sure doesn't need it for it to be a very relevant card.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2015, 11:33:12 am »
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I like the idea but there are still differences no matter how you spin the Events:
- You wouldn't be able to trash the card later, i.e. no trash-for-benefit effects
- They wouldn't run out, like how supply piles do
- They wouldn't contribute to 3-pile endings
- They wouldn't bump up your Gardens, Fairgrounds, etc.
- They wouldn't be something to discard after you've drawn your deck (Horse Traders, Vault, Secret Chamber)

So although the idea of having the Events instead is cool, they would certainly change some game mechanics.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2015, 11:48:49 am »
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I like the idea but there are still differences no matter how you spin the Events:
- You wouldn't be able to trash the card later, i.e. no trash-for-benefit effects
- They wouldn't run out, like how supply piles do
- They wouldn't contribute to 3-pile endings
- They wouldn't bump up your Gardens, Fairgrounds, etc.
- They wouldn't be something to discard after you've drawn your deck (Horse Traders, Vault, Secret Chamber)

So although the idea of having the Events instead is cool, they would certainly change some game mechanics.

Agreed. The question is whether they change for the better or the worse. Ill-Gotten Gains would be arguably better as an Event because it wouldn't run out two piles at once. Masterpiece I like better as a card; it's cool to be able to Mine or Taxman it. I think it's only nostalgia telling me that Cache is better as a card. Probably it's fine as an Event, maybe even better.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2015, 12:11:14 pm »
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I like IGG's funky Copper-gaining though.  Someone recently posted that it might be interesting if the IGG pile was bigger or smaller, to make it tougher to run out both piles.  That sounded cool to me.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2015, 12:13:26 pm »
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I like IGG's funky Copper-gaining though.

I like it too, but maybe it's worth losing that.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2015, 12:18:00 pm »
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I think Cache would be better as an Event.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2015, 12:36:35 pm »
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I think Cache would be better as an Event.

It would still stink though.  I can't think of scenarios in which the event would be significantly better than the card, therefore it's still almost never worth the $5.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2015, 12:43:36 pm »
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I think IGG becomes a much more boring card without the ability to run out 2 piles at once.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2015, 12:44:06 pm »
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I think Cache would be better as an Event.

It would still stink though.  I can't think of scenarios in which the event would be significantly better than the card, therefore it's still almost never worth the $5.

But as an Event, it doesn't take up a Kingdom Card slot, and doesn't use 10 cards that are just Golds (except worse because they're cheaper) once they're in your deck.
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2015, 06:33:37 pm »
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Event cache TFB's -better- !
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2015, 07:45:18 pm »
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It's kind of nifty in general when a card that exists in one expansion could have appeared in a different expansion using a totally different mechanic but with basically the same effect. For instance, Distant Lands could have been in Prosperity as "Trash this; if you do, +4 VP."
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2015, 11:56:10 pm »
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It's kind of nifty in general when a card that exists in one expansion could have appeared in a different expansion using a totally different mechanic but with basically the same effect. For instance, Distant Lands could have been in Prosperity as "Trash this; if you do, +4 VP."

So much weaker though. (Gardens, Fairgrounds, Silk Road.)
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2015, 12:26:37 am »
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It's kind of nifty in general when a card that exists in one expansion could have appeared in a different expansion using a totally different mechanic but with basically the same effect. For instance, Distant Lands could have been in Prosperity as "Trash this; if you do, +4 VP."

So much weaker though. (Gardens, Fairgrounds, Silk Road.)

So much stronger though. (Graverobber, Rogue, Market Square.)

(I don't think interacting differently with like a half dozen out of 236 cards really makes it "so much" different.)
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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2015, 06:37:36 pm »
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Embargo tokens are pretty much like other Adventures tokens; I wonder why DXV didn't make use of them in Adventures (other than the cost of producing a second set of components).

For that matter, lots of Seaside cards, like Smugglers, Embargo, Island, and Pirate Ship could have been Events (as Events, they would't cost an Action, but would cost a Buy--don't know if that would make them stronger or weaker).

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Re: Cards that could have been Events?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2015, 06:43:34 pm »
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For that matter, lots of Seaside cards, like Smugglers, Embargo, Island, and Pirate Ship could have been Events (as Events, they would't cost an Action, but would cost a Buy--don't know if that would make them stronger or weaker).

All of those would play very differently as Events. As cards, you need to put them in your deck, draw them and then spend an Action playing them. Smugglers, for example, would be very different if you could pay to use it any time instead of only when you manage to draw it with a spare Action.
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