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[faust]

yeah this is also not a good wagon, especially now with Seprix and LA on it. I'd much rather lynch Seprix today.

Why is Seprix scummy?

[Seprix]

I'm flattered you think I'm town Faust, but why? Everyone else thinks I'm scum.

[faust]

I'm flattered you think I'm town Faust, but why? Everyone else thinks I'm scum.

I don't know, you seem genuinely involved and give me a town feeling? I don't know why the others think you're scum.

[Seprix]

I'm flattered you think I'm town Faust, but why? Everyone else thinks I'm scum.

I don't know, you seem genuinely involved and give me a town feeling? I don't know why the others think you're scum.

It's because I'm indecisive and it fits their narrative.

Well, I don't see any reason scum has to defend me, and so I think you're auto-town.

[faust]

I'm flattered you think I'm town Faust, but why? Everyone else thinks I'm scum.

I don't know, you seem genuinely involved and give me a town feeling? I don't know why the others think you're scum.

It's because I'm indecisive and it fits their narrative.

Well, I don't see any reason scum has to defend me, and so I think you're auto-town.

Well, indecisiveness is townie rather than scummy (depends on the player though).

[Seprix]

You can conversely claim I'm jumping on wagons.

One man's town play is another man's scum play.

[Witherweaver]

Does Pit want to claim?

Is the deadline extended with "double lynch"?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Well, I don't see any reason scum has to defend me, and so I think you're auto-town.

That could be a good reason. faust could be white-knighting you to try and make himself look good after your flip. Or, I don't know, maybe you're partners.

[Seprix]

Well, I don't see any reason scum has to defend me, and so I think you're auto-town.

That could be a good reason. faust could be white-knighting you to try and make himself look good after your flip. Or, I don't know, maybe you're partners.

I know I'm not scum, so I'm figuring stuff out. Faust could be scum, but it's just easier to kill me I think.

[Hydrad]

Well, I don't see any reason scum has to defend me, and so I think you're auto-town.

That could be a good reason. faust could be white-knighting you to try and make himself look good after your flip. Or, I don't know, maybe you're partners.

I know I'm not scum, so I'm figuring stuff out. Faust could be scum, but it's just easier to kill me I think.

While I don't fully agree with your logic its still good to hear your opinions and stuff like that.

But I still kinda have a town read on faust so our conclusions come to the same spot so I guess who am I to judge if we end up with the same outcome.

[silverspawn]

yeah this is also not a good wagon, especially now with Seprix and LA on it. I'd much rather lynch Seprix today.

Why is Seprix scummy?

- had possibly the worst position on the Awaclus wagon
- also jumped conveniently on the pit wagon
- tunneled IG at a pretty bad time

though, I have to admit that I did find him townier lately, for his unvote on IG and a little bit of gut feeling.

I still don't like the pit lynch. Gray is hard to say because he's so new. Did someone make a case on WW?

[xxpittip]

Does Pit want to claim?

I think i have to claim at this point: I'm a VT, but i got Swamp Hag.

If you don't believe me, you can still lynch me tomorrow, without losing much (slightly less information for the lynch today compared to the one that would happen tomorrow + me possibly being a scum PR with a night activated power), while gaining the no-kill / hated for scum.

[Witherweaver]

So found scum?

You were in Player 1 QT....

[Witherweaver]

This might be a real bonafide scumslip.  Ashersky will be so happy.

Unless the cards are handed out randomly among the entire town.. but we're "Player 1" and "Player 2", so it shouldn't be that way.

[Witherweaver]

Unvote to be careful while we talk about this.

[silverspawn]

For a second there I thought it was a huge scumslip.

But cards are just given to a random player according to the QT, it doesn't specify that it's a random player of either alignment, but it says random player period

Which makes this a really good claim, because I don't see scum!pit claiming VT.

[faust]

Does Pit want to claim?

I think i have to claim at this point: I'm a VT, but i got Swamp Hag.

If you don't believe me, you can still lynch me tomorrow, without losing much (slightly less information for the lynch today compared to the one that would happen tomorrow + me possibly being a scum PR with a night activated power), while gaining the no-kill / hated for scum.

Well, we can't exactly lynch you tomorrow, because there's no night in between.

[faust]

Which makes this a really good claim, because I don't see scum!pit claiming VT.

Why not?

[Witherweaver]

Hmmm... okay.

[silverspawn]

Which makes this a really good claim, because I don't see scum!pit claiming VT.

Why not?

a nooby scum claiming VT? in my first scum games, I was all about making up PR's as I had to claim - and then I got lynched.

[silverspawn]

Though, I guess his scum partners could have told him to do this, that's not too far fetched.

also, your reaction was sort of a town slip, unless it was fabricated.

[faust]

Which makes this a really good claim, because I don't see scum!pit claiming VT.

Why not?

a nooby scum claiming VT? in my first scum games, I was all about making up PR's as I had to claim - and then I got lynched.

Well, the assumption has been made that we all start out as VTs. If pit picked up on that, he might have just gone along. Also, he's not that new, is he? Has he been scum before?

Anyway we should probably not lynch him today.

[Witherweaver]

Which makes this a really good claim, because I don't see scum!pit claiming VT.

Why not?

a nooby scum claiming VT? in my first scum games, I was all about making up PR's as I had to claim - and then I got lynched.

We already established a scum-will-likely-claim VT kind of thing. 

[faust]

Though, I guess his scum partners could have told him to do this, that's not too far fetched.

also, your reaction was sort of a town slip, unless it was fabricated.

Huh? How was my reaction a townslip? Or are you talking about WW?

[silverspawn]

Anyway we should probably not lynch him today.

right... I forgot about that. yeah, if we're all VT's, his claim doesn't mean very much.

okay, so his claim is null. but he has the card for sure - you can't fakeclaim that, whoever got it would counterclaim - so we shouldn't lynch him today.

that is, unless a scum partner has the card ---- no, actually, even then it would tie them together, because XP said scum flips with the cards they have. So, if his buddy got the card, pit claims, then pit is dead once we lynch the partner. I don't think they would take that risk. So, we should assume that he does have this card.