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[Ichimaru Gin]

Is ADK still playing?

faust quickhammered him yesterday.

[ashersky]

Is ADK still playing?

faust quickhammered him yesterday.

Right.  He's listed as alive in the OP.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Yeah. It hasn't been updated.

[Joseph2302]

Is ADK still playing?

faust quickhammered him yesterday.

Right.  He's listed as alive in the OP.

Maybe dead players can resurrect, that would be real madness.

[Joseph2302]

No wait, I forgot to tell you all, I can resurrect players, but only if they're on my team. Resurrect: ADK.

[Joseph2302]

No wait, I forgot to tell you all, I can resurrect players, but only if they're on my team. Resurrect: ADK.

Just so people are clear, this was an April Fools' joke.

[Joseph2302]

Is ADK still playing?

faust quickhammered him yesterday.

Does this make faust scummy? I dunno, I was going to hammer later that day. Can someone make it easy for me, and tell me who the scum are?

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Lynch everybody.

[ashersky]

Is ADK still playing?

faust quickhammered him yesterday.

Does this make faust scummy? I dunno, I was going to hammer later that day. Can someone make it easy for me, and tell me who the scum are?

You have to think about what faust got out of the quickhammer.  Did it ensure someone else didn't get lynch?  Did it end the day before important discussions could take place (like night action coordination)?  Did it end the day before some people, including the lynched player, got to chime in again?

[Joseph2302]

Vote: Lynch everybody.

Why does nobody like this plan?

Is ADK still playing?

faust quickhammered him yesterday.

Does this make faust scummy? I dunno, I was going to hammer later that day. Can someone make it easy for me, and tell me who the scum are?

You have to think about what faust got out of the quickhammer.  Did it ensure someone else didn't get lynch?  Did it end the day before important discussions could take place (like night action coordination)?  Did it end the day before some people, including the lynched player, got to chime in again?

I dunno, it felt like everyone was committed or had given up on any other lynch. Plus did faust actually know he was hammering?

Well, okay. Let's see how this turns out.

Vote: ADK I think this brings him back to L-1.

I still prefer Ichi, and to an extent silver, WW and e, but these don't seem to happen. If anything changes, I'm more than happy to change my vote. But I'd rather lynch ADK now than see Joseph lynched by some ignorant folk close to deadline.

I
t seems people (including myself) didn't notice that the hammer had happened, and faust posted he thought it was L-1. Unless this was a scum fake confusion thing.

[Witherweaver]

I seriously doubt that was faked.

[2.71828.....]

Not Lynching
-  2.7 - me.  Town.  If Joseph really did poison me I will probably die tonight anyway, so I am off the table.
-  chairs - Has a new kid.  Plus he got poisoned.  Even if he is scum that will tie up an attack tonight for them to save.  Well, if Joseph is telling the truth and all.  So D3 subs are allowed, will be a tough spot to fill though considering how large the thread has gotten.  Off the table for me. 
-  Witherweaver - I have a pretty strong town read on Witherweaver.  His role, the way he went against the grain D2 when it came to claiming.  The full claim to start D3.  I think town.  I won't be lynching him.  (today at least)

Don't really want to lynch, but might if nothing else seems to be happening.  I mean, I could see 1/3 of these as scum, but not really more than that.
-  ashersky - He has seemed like town to me all game.  Well, except at the very beginning through the claiming process.  But everything after that.  The recent dual with faust is something that can come from town or scum Ashersky.  I just don't really see the scum narrative playing out very clearly though.
-  Faust - I am leaning town.  I just really don't see scum!faust playing D1 the way he did.  Everything about the way he claims is really unnecessary.  I know if I were scum I would not want to draw that much attention to myself with claiming technicalities and everything.  Cop results work really well when claimed first, last, in the middle, whatever.  If someone is lying they will be caught in the lie no matter.  I think there are better lynches today, but I think faust should claim first tomorrow
-  Joseph2302 - Why would scum claim to poison a person that was killed the same night.  And a bad person to poison to boot?  Also, his posting style this game hasn't been really like the scum!joseph that we all have come to know and love.  Lets pick a better target than me tonight, ok?

Lets lynch here.  I think there is a very good chance at least 2/3 of these are scum
-  Silverspawn - Steady, confident, calm.  Hasn't had to deal with too much.  Hasn't done anything incredibly scummy, but I don't get a good feeling.  Plus PoE.
-  Ichimaru Gin - I don't like him not using his power N1.  I don't like his OMGUS.  I don't like his reads.  Does this make him scum?  No.  Does this make him town? No.  Does this land him on my lynch list?  Yes.
-  Awaclus - What has he done this game again?  I don't know.  His position on the Hydrad wagon makes me think Not Partner, but that doesn't mean Not Scum in this game.  Also, I just went back through and read his posts.  Seems townie enough.  But.....my PoE says he is scum. 

vote: Ichi

His lynch will give us the most information of the people that I have in my "lets lynch here" category. 

[Joseph2302]

I seriously doubt that was faked.

You never know, faust could have thought about it a lot. I doubt it too though, that D2 end was confusing/messy.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Um. As long as Ash and faust feel the way they do, I don't think we're going to lynch someone other than one of them today. You can't really ignore Ash's claim at this point--it has to be dealt with.

[Witherweaver]

Wait, so what's your explanation for Ash, Faust, and Joseph all being town?

[Joseph2302]

Interesting lynchpool, but I agree with Ichi that the lynch is either faust or ash. I just cannot see them both being town.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Joseph. I want to believe you're town. I can totally see a scenario where scum is whiteknighting you because of your role and/or because they think you're scum as well. I would like to think that they've just tried to manipulate you so that your power works in their interest.

I feel very strongly that we should lynch faust today. If he flips town, then we lynch Ash I think. That's the order it should be done in though.

[2.71828.....]

Wait, so what's your explanation for Ash, Faust, and Joseph all being town?

i said i could see one of them being scum

[Awaclus]

Re-read and made my decision.

Vote: ashersky

[Witherweaver]

Wait, so what's your explanation for Ash, Faust, and Joseph all being town?

i said i could see one of them being scum

Well, "could see one as scum" is different from not being able to create a narrative where all are town.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Re-read and made my decision.

Vote: ashersky

Why man? faust is obvscum here. Please at least tell us.

[Awaclus]

Re-read and made my decision.

Vote: ashersky

Why man? faust is obvscum here. Please at least tell us.

Because you're his partner.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Re-read and made my decision.

Vote: ashersky

Why man? faust is obvscum here. Please at least tell us.

Because you're his partner.

Thanks for answering 

[2.71828.....]

Wait, so what's your explanation for Ash, Faust, and Joseph all being town?

i said i could see one of them being scum

Well, "could see one as scum" is different from not being able to create a narrative where all are town.

I am sorry, I misread your question.  You are asking for the narrative where they all exist as town.  I thought you had just missed the bit where I said I could see one of them being scum.

[2.71828.....]

Ok, I was rereading to answer WW's question.  And am doing a total flip here.  I realized I couldn't answer his question.

Witherweaver is town because he is town.

I can confirm silverspawn's action. I got to use Hydrad's power last night and I used it on faust, getting No Result which means that it was blocked. I didn't use my Pickpocket ability.

This makes me think Awaclus/silverspawn are both town.  Don't want to lynch there

Chairs may or may not be town.  Still not lynching today, but is a definite wildcard.  Almost hope he dies of poisoning.

I am left with Ash, faust, Joseph, Ichi in my lynchpool.

And I need to find 3 scum.  faust/joseph are either partners together as scum, or not scum at all.  No way they are separate teams scum in my opinion.  If they are not scum at all, then Ichi, Ash, and chairs must be scum.  (assuming silverspawn/awaclus are town.  Which is not the most amazing thing to assume).  I just don't see that.

I much prefer a story where faust/joseph are scum, and then one other scum exists somewhere.  So for now, I am going to vote: joseph.  If I am going to believe Ashersky, might as well believe him all the way.  Which means I do not want a manipulative role on the loose for scum.  I much prefer a safe (and useless) rolecop.