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[Ichimaru Gin]

Also, I just drank a bottle of wine, so I wont be too useful for thinking about the game tonight.

But if anyone want s to know why i am town I can be sueful

Tell me why you're town then.

[2.71828.....]

Also, I just drank a bottle of wine, so I wont be too useful for thinking about the game tonight.

But if anyone want s to know why i am town I can be sueful

Tell me why you're town then.

Because there is absolutlye no scum narrrative.  You tried.  and you failed.  other people tried.  And they failed.  Plus, I am like always town.  I have been scum a few times.  Village mafia.  SK in a couple.  Bastard and that one where I was super scum.  And failed.  But I am town here. 

[2.71828.....]

but its cool.  joseph killed me off.  so i will die and you will see my flip

[Ichimaru Gin]

I'm kind of inclined to believe you. You'll help us lynch faust though right?

[2.71828.....]

I'm kind of inclined to believe you. You'll help us lynch faust though right?

eh.  maybe.  still haven't made up my mind.  kind of leaning that way.  the only thing is that he hasn't played like he has in the past as scum.  i mean, he has played exacly like town!faust.  I mean, this is a great scum performance if he is scum

[Ichimaru Gin]

Yeah. People keep saying that...

I mean, I'll give him props for staying alive this long and confusing other people--but I was never fooled (and no WW, it wasn't just dumb luck). It's just people never listen to me--which is kind of my own fault I guess.

[faust]

Ok.

It's so hilarious how faust comes out with "we're probably in mylo now" after being such a huge supporter of keeping Joseph alive and having him use his power. e supported it too. If we are in mylo, that's frickin why.

WW can't get mad at me for taking credit for putting myself down as an ardent supporter of killing Joseph or at least not having him use his power--Ash was the one that originally pointed it out but no one paid attention to it. Of course this all assumes Joseph's power is what he says it is.

You're also one of the reasons we're at MyLo. Just saying.

[faust]

Yeah. People keep saying that...

I mean, I'll give him props for staying alive this long and confusing other people--but I was never fooled (and no WW, it wasn't just dumb luck). It's just people never listen to me--which is kind of my own fault I guess.

It's because you're wrong. But that thought never crossed your mind, because you're oh so great at reading me.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't have to be great at reading you. I just really think I'm right here. Just because we have a history as fighting a lot when we're both town doesn't mean that's the case every time.

[Ichimaru Gin]

You're also one of the reasons we're at MyLo. Just saying.

How's that?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Oh yeah, because we are totally not going to lynch you today.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Yeah this is super unconvincing. There was a time there when you and Ash were arguing when I thought you were making some good points and my read on you was wavering a bit but yeah, that went away soon enough.

[faust]

Yeah this is super unconvincing. There was a time there when you and Ash were arguing when I thought you were making some good points and my read on you was wavering a bit but yeah, that went away soon enough.

Why?

[Joseph2302]

A scenario that makes more sense would be that me and Joseph are not partners, but via my powers, I figured out that Joseph is the other scum, and now I'm protecting him.

That's a nice scenario.  Is it the true one?  I'm very much convinced you are partners, not unknowns.  If you want to say I'm not considering all angles, feel free, as everything you say is a scum lie and misdirection anyway.  It's clear you aren't reading my posts anyway.  I'm not sure why I'm reading yours.  I definitely hadn't planned on responding to any after Day 2.

But if you want to lay out how you and Joseph are both scum but not partners, by all means, go ahead.

The scenario would be something like this:
I'm Hydrad's partner, and so in N0 we thought up a good fakeclaim. Hydrad died D1, so N1 I was left to myself and caused a huge mess. From the mess, faust basically guessed I must be scum, and then knew that by claiming last D3 they could verify my claim, thus defending us both.

In all seriousness, I seriously think faust might just be trying to whiteknight me. Vote: faust.

[faust]

To elaborate, what makes you think I'm scum, and, perhaps more importantly, what makes you think ashersky is town?

[faust]

A scenario that makes more sense would be that me and Joseph are not partners, but via my powers, I figured out that Joseph is the other scum, and now I'm protecting him.

That's a nice scenario.  Is it the true one?  I'm very much convinced you are partners, not unknowns.  If you want to say I'm not considering all angles, feel free, as everything you say is a scum lie and misdirection anyway.  It's clear you aren't reading my posts anyway.  I'm not sure why I'm reading yours.  I definitely hadn't planned on responding to any after Day 2.

But if you want to lay out how you and Joseph are both scum but not partners, by all means, go ahead.

The scenario would be something like this:
I'm Hydrad's partner, and so in N0 we thought up a good fakeclaim. Hydrad died D1, so N1 I was left to myself and caused a huge mess. From the mess, faust basically guessed I must be scum, and then knew that by claiming last D3 they could verify my claim, thus defending us both.

In all seriousness, I seriously think faust might just be trying to whiteknight me. Vote: faust.

Are you bloody nuts? How on earth can you think ash is town?

[faust]

Joseph - PLEASE lay down how I am scum. Go ahead.

This is ridiculous.

[Joseph2302]

Joseph - PLEASE lay down how I am scum. Go ahead.

This is ridiculous.

Because I really cannot see both you and ashersky being the same team, the interactions between you seem like scum vs town.

If scum!ash claims I used manipulative action, it lowers the lynchpool for today to just him and 1-2 other people, which doesn't seem very good for him IMO. Also, I didn't feel he was scummy D2 either, when there was the big ash/faust argument. His claim doesn't make sense to me (since I only double-poisoned), but I think there might be an explanation different from "ash is scum, and made it up" e.g. an explanation of someone else did something to me that made ash get bad results.

So, if ash is town, then this probably makes you scum. Plus you were last to claim today, which is the safest scum position, as scum!faust could easily just agree with me, whiteknighting me (I'm ignoring the case we're both scum, since I know I'm not scum).

[faust]

Joseph - PLEASE lay down how I am scum. Go ahead.

This is ridiculous.

Because I really cannot see both you and ashersky being the same team, the interactions between you seem like scum vs town.

If scum!ash claims I used manipulative action, it lowers the lynchpool for today to just him and 1-2 other people, which doesn't seem very good for him IMO. Also, I didn't feel he was scummy D2 either, when there was the big ash/faust argument. His claim doesn't make sense to me (since I only double-poisoned), but I think there might be an explanation different from "ash is scum, and made it up" e.g. an explanation of someone else did something to me that made ash get bad results.

So, if ash is town, then this probably makes you scum. Plus you were last to claim today, which is the safest scum position, as scum!faust could easily just agree with me, whiteknighting me (I'm ignoring the case we're both scum, since I know I'm not scum).

Why do people not READ what I write? Why do I even bother writing?

[faust]

You do realize that the very same arguments you use to find me scummy can be applied to argue that I must be town, and therefore ashersky must be scum?

This is nonsense.

[faust]

Well, I'm not giving up hope that Joseph is just April's Fools voting me.

[Witherweaver]

Everything Ichi has done this game has felt fake.  He's my top lynch choice for today.

Still torn about Ash, but if it's Ash vs. Faust I'm voting Ash.

[Joseph2302]

You do realize that the very same arguments you use to find me scummy can be applied to argue that I must be town, and therefore ashersky must be scum?

This is nonsense.

I knew there was a flaw in this argument, I just hadn't worked out where. So in conclusion, one of ash or faust is scum.

[Joseph2302]

Well, I'm not giving up hope that Joseph is just April's Fools voting me.

No it was genuine, although pretty much everything I've done this game has been both genuine and not very useful/hopeless at the same time.

[Joseph2302]

Unvote: faust I guess, since the logic basically works both ways, so could be ash who's scum.

I still think someone might have messed with my role last night though.