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[Ichimaru Gin]

To quote faust from Yoshi's island

"Your silence is giving you away."

I was away from the computer. My entire life does not revolve around mafia.

If you bothered to read my other posts, you would see I mentioned this. You're working to misinterpret me here.

PPEs: Wow. Now who's overreacting?
You're scum. You need to die.

Distraction, deflection, and more purposeful ignorance of people's metas.
Can we please lynch ADK today?

[Ichimaru Gin]

@ADK have we played together before?

You mean like in Yoshi's Island, when you reacted very emotionally to people voting for you, and were scum? Or in Silo, when you reacted very emotionally to people voting for you, and were scum? Or in Stack the Deck, when you reacted very emotionally to people voting for you, and were scum? Yeah, you've done it as town, but here it just feels kind of forced, and I don't get faust as a target for it at all.

PPE: @WW I suppose. It doesn't mean I have to like it. Especially since he's giving himself an excuse to be dishonest.

Or Dune 2--where I overreacted  in the beginning, or Dice Mafia where I overreacted to faust calling me scum because of my low role, or Musical Mafia where scum used my overreaction and early claim for a winning mislynch. This is blatant cherry-picking and super annoying.

[Ichimaru Gin]

*roll

[A Drowned Kernel]

To quote faust from Yoshi's island

"Your silence is giving you away."

I was away from the computer. My entire life does not revolve around mafia.

If you bothered to read my other posts, you would see I mentioned this. You're working to misinterpret me here.

PPEs: Wow. Now who's overreacting?
You're scum. You need to die.

Distraction, deflection, and more purposeful ignorance of people's metas.
Can we please lynch ADK today?

I was catching up and reacted as I went, so sue me. And how is that an overreaction? You were making a point about your meta, I was providing counter evidence to that point.

PPE: Like I said, you've done it as town. You've also done it as scum.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Wheeeee, we did this. Now who's scum?

I agree that joseph and Ichi have the towniest looking roles.

So what changed your mind?

Oh yeah, and you ignored my question about what you didn't agree with faust about.

To quote faust from Yoshi's island

"Your silence is giving you away."

I was away from the computer. My entire life does not revolve around mafia.

If you bothered to read my other posts, you would see I mentioned this. You're working to misinterpret me here.

PPEs: Wow. Now who's overreacting?
You're scum. You need to die.

Distraction, deflection, and more purposeful ignorance of people's metas.
Can we please lynch ADK today?

I was catching up and reacted as I went, so sue me. And how is that an overreaction? You were making a point about your meta, I was providing counter evidence to that point.

PPE: Like I said, you've done it as town. You've also done it as scum.

Oh, maybe just tossing out that you think all my reads suck (when you don't even know all of my reads) and providing 0 evidence for it--not to mention that reads are subjective.
Uh huh. I've been saying it's a null tell forever, but you gave it as the #1 reason why you're voting for me so no, sorry, you can't pretend you think it's a null tell now.

[Hydrad]

IG what makes you so sure on ADK? people suspect you all the time as town and scum. Your making it sound like you are like 90% sure hes scum. I feel like you usually don't do that part. You usually just defend and don't know whos scum. This time it seems your mind is already made up that ADK is scum.

[Witherweaver]

Am I witnessing fake arguing?

[Hydrad]

Am I witnessing fake arguing?

Something feels off but I don't know who.

[Hydrad]

why*

[A Drowned Kernel]

Wheeeee, we did this. Now who's scum?

I agree that joseph and Ichi have the towniest looking roles.

So what changed your mind?

Oh yeah, and you ignored my question about what you didn't agree with faust about.

You have a towny-looking role, but nothing is confirmed, and the way you reacted to faust is what changed my mind about you.

Yeah. Your read on me is so forced.

You said you thought "a lot" of faust's analysis was sound? Were there some parts you didn't agree with?

I think he underestimates the scum utility of ash's role, for starters. It could be useful for finding the other scum team.

To quote faust from Yoshi's island

"Your silence is giving you away."

I was away from the computer. My entire life does not revolve around mafia.

If you bothered to read my other posts, you would see I mentioned this. You're working to misinterpret me here.

PPEs: Wow. Now who's overreacting?
You're scum. You need to die.

Distraction, deflection, and more purposeful ignorance of people's metas.
Can we please lynch ADK today?

I was catching up and reacted as I went, so sue me. And how is that an overreaction? You were making a point about your meta, I was providing counter evidence to that point.

PPE: Like I said, you've done it as town. You've also done it as scum.

Oh, maybe just tossing out that you think all my reads suck (when you don't even know all of my reads) and providing 0 evidence for it--not to mention that reads are subjective.
Uh huh. I've been saying it's a null tell forever, but you gave it as the #1 reason why you're voting for me so no, sorry, you can't pretend you think it's a null tell now.

I strongly disagree with your read on faust, which is the whole point here. You reacted to faust's analysis, not with "I disagree with some of that, here's how my role can be used to benefit town", but with "this analysis sucks, faust is obvscum". It looks a lot to me like perhaps faust was hitting a little too close to home with what he was saying, and you felt you had to react strongly against it.

PPE:

IG what makes you so sure on ADK? people suspect you all the time as town and scum. Your making it sound like you are like 90% sure hes scum. I feel like you usually don't do that part. You usually just defend and don't know whos scum. This time it seems your mind is already made up that ADK is scum.

Yeah, this.

[Ichimaru Gin]

IG what makes you so sure on ADK? people suspect you all the time as town and scum. Your making it sound like you are like 90% sure hes scum. I feel like you usually don't do that part. You usually just defend and don't know whos scum. This time it seems your mind is already made up that ADK is scum.

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

[Witherweaver]

IG what makes you so sure on ADK? people suspect you all the time as town and scum. Your making it sound like you are like 90% sure hes scum. I feel like you usually don't do that part. You usually just defend and don't know whos scum. This time it seems your mind is already made up that ADK is scum.

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

It's not that terrible. I honestly can't figure out if you're being sincere or if you're grandstanding. 

[Ichimaru Gin]

Faust said we should lynch those who have roles with high scum utility and low town utility. My role does not fit that definition--and he listed a bunch of people whose roles do fit that definition--yet he votes me with no explanation or argument for it.

[A Drowned Kernel]

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

I'm sticking too it because I think you're scum.

Ichi, do you still think that faust is scum?

PPE: faust said he was working on a plan. He didn't explain why he was voting for you, but I'm assuming that there is in fact a reason.

[A Drowned Kernel]

More to the point, why would faust being wrong (if he is) necessarily mean that he's scum?

[Witherweaver]

Faust said we should lynch those who have roles with high scum utility and low town utility. My role does not fit that definition--and he listed a bunch of people whose roles do fit that definition--yet he votes me with no explanation or argument for it.

Yes, this is what I asked.  I have some ideas on this, but I want to hear Faust respond.

[Ichimaru Gin]

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

I'm sticking too it because I think you're scum.

Ichi, do you still think that faust is scum?

PPE: faust said he was working on a plan. He didn't explain why he was voting for you, but I'm assuming that there is in fact a reason.

There's always a bit of grandstanding in me. I feel like you sheeped my wagon, had bad meta reasons for voting me and have continued to unfairly attack me.

faust hasn't been around, so it's hard to say. I'll wait for him to show up.

[Ichimaru Gin]

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

I'm sticking too it because I think you're scum.

Why?
OMGUS?
I'm voting everyone's precious IC faust?
My overreactions?

[Ichimaru Gin]

*my voting

I should probably take a break. I feel really, really, confident that ADK is scum though, and I think Hydrad's assessment of my meta is clearly inaccurate--but of course scum!ADK is going to latch onto it.

[silverspawn]

I don't think I've ever seen ADK arguing this strongly for something before. that's interesting. Not sure if it's an alignment tell though.

[faust]

You'll have to wait for a proper response util tomorrow I fear. I tentatively think Ichi is scummy here, and honestly have a hard time understanding why people would vote for one of our only investigative roles at all on D1.

[A Drowned Kernel]

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

I'm sticking too it because I think you're scum.

Ichi, do you still think that faust is scum?

PPE: faust said he was working on a plan. He didn't explain why he was voting for you, but I'm assuming that there is in fact a reason.

There's always a bit of grandstanding in me. I feel like you sheeped my wagon, had bad meta reasons for voting me and have continued to unfairly attack me.

faust hasn't been around, so it's hard to say. I'll wait for him to show up.

If by "unfairly attack you" you mean "keep my vote on you and continue to reiterate my reasons for doing so", then yes. This is mafia, all reads are based at least a little on speculation. I don't think I've been manipulative or unfair here at all.

His reasoning here is terrible and a lot of people see that. He's sticking to it though because it'll look bad if he backs off at this point.

I'm sticking too it because I think you're scum.

Why?
OMGUS?
I'm voting everyone's precious IC faust?
My overreactions?

No, yes, and yes.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't think I've ever seen ADK arguing this strongly for something before. that's interesting. Not sure if it's an alignment tell though.

Oh and btw I also think that Silver's been pretty scummy here, he's been a little lurky. Not a terribly strong read but it's there.

[silverspawn]

You'll have to wait for a proper response util tomorrow I fear. I tentatively think Ichi is scummy here, and honestly have a hard time understanding why people would vote for one of our only investigative roles at all on D1.

are you talking about yourself?

I missed your role when I said we don't have a watcher or doctor. You're sort of a weak watcher.

[silverspawn]

I don't think I've ever seen ADK arguing this strongly for something before. that's interesting. Not sure if it's an alignment tell though.

Oh and btw I also think that Silver's been pretty scummy here, he's been a little lurky. Not a terribly strong read but it's there.

I really don't think I've been lurking