Okay, the wagon on me is ash, Ichi, silver? I won't convince ash, and honestly I believe Ichi is voting for me only because either he's scum or he wants to be right so much that he ignores all the facts, so no argument I can make will change his opinion. But silver, I've still got hope for him.
- I think the "let me vote for faust" thing from Joseph looks super staged. I also don't think faust's reaction points towards genuine town, I think scum!faust has just as much reason to be frustrated there
What's the whole thing good for if he decides to unvote right after? You can't argue that he wanted t really bus me, he's just confused here. Inconsistency is a town tell, after all.
- I don't buy that you're suddenly convinced about ash being scum. I recall you saying that ash's tunneling made him feel townier - what happened to that?
Really?! I mean, put yourself in my shoes. Ash has a result on one of my top townreads which I know is wrong. What do you expect me to do, say "oh well, but he's so townie, maybe Arch just sent him the wrong result?" Any townread I had on ash is completely nullified by this.
- I don't feel scum!ash anymore. At first I thought his tunneling was staged, but then he started to actually make good points, and... well, basically this:
The scum narrative for me? You have to think I'm the biggest asshole in the world...fake fight, fake quitting, someone got Arch to fake seek a replacement, fake a result....all for what? It's pretty early to be suiciding.
I already commented on this, but hey, here's me doing it again. I don't think the quitting was fake. Either he was genuinely frustrated (I hope not) or he thought replacing out would make his replacement seem super townie (true). I don't approve of that kind of play, but I know ash does.
And the fake result is there why fake results are always there - to get that one last crucial mislynch in.
And there's also the thing about how day 2 played out - I mean you did (quick!)hammer town, after all.
I don't think that's fair. It was like 3 hours before deadline, you can hardly call that a quickhammer.
Don't get me wrong, I think you played an excellent game, but that's just it, you're an excellent player, you can do this as scum. If it was anyone else, I'd probably say what you're doing (defending Joseph super hard, insisting on claiming last) is too bold for scum, but you're capable of it.
So I'm a good player, and ash isn't? Okay, so now we get to the point that bugs me the most. Yes, I'm a good player. So why? WHY do I do this? Just anwer me and TELL ME what's the scum narrative. I want to get me and my partner lynched? Because that sounds like a great plan. There is no scum narrative here, none. This is the one crucial question you need to answer if you really think my lynch is the best, and so far everyone has failed to do so.
Also this:
Look, the scum narrative for Joseph/Faust is super clear. There have been shit claims (Joseph #1, the backpedal, admitting he targeted XP who died and was the key to our plan, Faust claiming to directly save him); they have been tied together for self-preservation (faust's non-stop, non-sensical defense of Joseph, faust's quick hammer of town, faust claiming a result to save Joseph after he's caught out -- which is why Faust wanted to go last, btw).
Yeah, this doesn't make sense. It's not self-preservation because it makes sure that we're both lynched within three days. Great plan, man.
Another thing - let's say ash is scum. Would he really try to connect this game to the contest to the Mafia championship thing if he knows you are right? Definitely no. This is more than just staging a fight.
Only he didn't really link it, did he? He accepted to be the representative even with this unresolved. It was just a rhethorical thing, never meaning anything.
I'm also pretty confident about Joseph being scum now. We all gave him allowances for his screw ups, but man, at some point we have to assume that it's staged, especially if you're partners. and if we are lynching among you two, it seems better to lynch you first.
What was the point at which you started to assume it was fake? You obviously agreed with me last day when I made my post about why Joseph is town; what's changed since then?
and lastly, I don't feel very good about your votes on me. I don't remember any game when you tunneled me and we were both town.
I don't think I really tunnelled you. There were things I found suspicious, yes. This is just OMGUS.