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[xxpittip]

I'm not sure about ADK trying too hard. This is pretty much the same thing as someone asking you something that they could just as well google and the existence of lmgtfy.com (let me google that for you) proves that this happens quite often.

[Awaclus]

You find it surprising that I went "closed setup, rules of mafia, yeah I've played a bunch of games I know all this"?

I don't think it's surprising that you didn't click on the link to the rules of mafia. I think it's surprising that you didn't read the changes and additions to the rules of mafia, which you wouldn't know before reading them.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I skimmed it, and nothing stood out as being unusual. When I got a QT I was like "huh, that's odd." So I asked about it.

[Teproc]

You find it surprising that I went "closed setup, rules of mafia, yeah I've played a bunch of games I know all this"?

FWIW this is exactly what I did, and had ADK not brought it up, I would have assumed only PRs had a QT (in fact I initially thought I could do the protecting thing in the QT, but no dice).

I'm null on ADK for this, I could easily see him do that in both alignments, and it didn't stand out to me at all.

[Awaclus]

I skimmed it, and nothing stood out as being unusual. When I got a QT I was like "huh, that's odd." So I asked about it.

I guess that makes sense.

[CalignoBot]

Sorry guys, I'll have to get back to this tomorrow. I've been too worn out to think the past couple of days. I have tomorrow off from work, so I'll be able to do more.

[Archetype]

I don't find ADK asking whether or not people got a QT to be scummy. Him specifically mentioning Town players, however, is a little weird.

[Jimmmmm]

I don't find ADK asking whether or not people got a QT to be scummy. Him specifically mentioning Town players, however, is a little weird.

You think he was trying to get Towncred?

[Archetype]

I don't find ADK asking whether or not people got a QT to be scummy. Him specifically mentioning Town players, however, is a little weird.

You think he was trying to get Towncred?

I'm not sure what he would be trying to get, he just seemed like he was trying to hard to appear Town. Like, instead of just asking "Did everyone else get a QT?", he had to mention that he was Town.

Certainly not a slam dunk, but besides Teproc's claim and the Awaclus case, nothing else has really jumped out to me.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Well it would be doubly weird for scum players to have their own QTs in addition to the scum QT. But I guess the OP suggests that that's what Silverspawn did.

Also I find it a bit suspicious that what's "jumped out" to Arch are the cases against the two people who are voting for him.

[CalignoBot]

Archetype: Can you explain what you mean by "trying too hard"?

[Archetype]

Archetype: Can you explain what you mean by "trying too hard"?

Instead of just asking "Hey, did anyone else receive a QT?", ADK decided to also mention that he was Town. To me, that seems to me like trying too hard to appear Town by explicitly stating that he is Town.

[Archetype]

Well it would be doubly weird for scum players to have their own QTs in addition to the scum QT. But I guess the OP suggests that that's what Silverspawn did.

Also I find it a bit suspicious that what's "jumped out" to Arch are the cases against the two people who are voting for him.

Well, besides the players I mentioned, what has jumped out to you?

[Hydrad]

Archetype: Can you explain what you mean by "trying too hard"?

Instead of just asking "Hey, did anyone else receive a QT?", ADK decided to also mention that he was Town. To me, that seems to me like trying too hard to appear Town by explicitly stating that he is Town.

Oh I like that point.

[Teproc]

Well it would be doubly weird for scum players to have their own QTs in addition to the scum QT. But I guess the OP suggests that that's what Silverspawn did.

Also I find it a bit suspicious that what's "jumped out" to Arch are the cases against the two people who are voting for him.

I'm not voting for Arch.

Hydrad, that's not a "point", that's the entire case... why were you voting against ADK before ?

[Hydrad]

Well it would be doubly weird for scum players to have their own QTs in addition to the scum QT. But I guess the OP suggests that that's what Silverspawn did.

Also I find it a bit suspicious that what's "jumped out" to Arch are the cases against the two people who are voting for him.

I'm not voting for Arch.

Hydrad, that's not a "point", that's the entire case... why were you voting against ADK before ?

Pretty much just gut feeling.

[CalignoBot]

Unvote: Jimmmmm
Vote: Archetype

I'm not buying it. He didn't notice it at all until I posted it, then jumped on it and tried to give it his own spin despite showing that he didn't notice it until I did. It feels wrong.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Well it would be doubly weird for scum players to have their own QTs in addition to the scum QT. But I guess the OP suggests that that's what Silverspawn did.

Also I find it a bit suspicious that what's "jumped out" to Arch are the cases against the two people who are voting for him.

Well, besides the players I mentioned, what has jumped out to you?

That I made a case against you earlier, and instead of responding to it you're attacking me for something unrelated and kind of silly. And that Hydrad is sheeping you hardcore.

[Archetype]

Well it would be doubly weird for scum players to have their own QTs in addition to the scum QT. But I guess the OP suggests that that's what Silverspawn did.

Also I find it a bit suspicious that what's "jumped out" to Arch are the cases against the two people who are voting for him.

Well, besides the players I mentioned, what has jumped out to you?

That I made a case against you earlier, and instead of responding to it you're attacking me for something unrelated and kind of silly. And that Hydrad is sheeping you hardcore.

I looked back at your posts and couldn't find what case you were referring to. Can you point me to it?

Unvote: Jimmmmm
Vote: Archetype

I'm not buying it. He didn't notice it at all until I posted it, then jumped on it and tried to give it his own spin despite showing that he didn't notice it until I did. It feels wrong.

I'm not sure what you mean. I think I put the same 'spin' on it as you did. Ok. Just checked and, yeah, it's pretty much what you originally said. I only picked it out because I hadn't noticed it before. Then I had 2 people sheep the point, but I didn't vote him for it...it was seriously just something I found interesting that I hadn't noticed before and felt I should give my opinion on it.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm trying to figure out what to make of Archetype here. I'm thinking possibly scummy. He's posting a lot, gives a reads list right away, is taking a stance that is noticeable but not too aggressive.

Yeah, I like vote: archetype

This is less substantial than I remembered, but you giving a reads list right off the bat, and unprompted, seemed a little scummy to me. Like "oh, I better make sure I get some opinions out there so I look towny," but in a fake kind of way.

[CalignoBot]

Okay, here's the issues I have with Archetype's play right now.

1. Awaclus votes him and makes a case. Archetype's response? Completely ignored it. After Teproc votes Awaclus and states that he's basically taking Archetype's side in that engagement, he decides that's a good time to engage.
2. Directly affiliated with the above: he goes into his read on Teproc again here, but the way he goes about it is bizarre. He admits immediately that it could have been done from town or mafia, but goes into a lengthy explanation as to why it's anti-town. This in itself wouldn't be scummy, but he has stated recently that the only thing about Teproc that stood out was the claim and another separate post stated that Teproc is his biggest scumread. This is not only being wishy washy, but it feels like it was manufactured to try to keep Teproc from turning on him while keeping his lynch options open.

Those two points, when put together, make me think he's more concerned about his self-image than scumhunting.

3. Minor point, but it bugs me how he knows he got sheeped, but doesn't show any reaction to it whatsoever. It looks more like he wanted to distance himself from a wagon he started after it got going, but didn't want to actively try to sabotage it.

EDIT: This is like the 8th time I've screwed up the verification key since the game began. This site is really good at putting lines through in the worst spots ._.

[Teproc]

Meh. I mean it's not a bad case, but I'm not convinced, I'd much rather lynch Awaclus or Jimmmmm.

[Hydrad]

Meh. I mean it's not a bad case, but I'm not convinced, I'd much rather lynch Awaclus or Jimmmmm.

Why Jimmm? Just because he did his annoying vote on me?

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 1.5

Teproc (2): Pit, Archetype
Archetype (3): Awaclus, A Drowned Kernel, CalignoBot
Hydrad (1): Jimmmmm
Awaclus (1): Teproc
A Drowned Kernel (2): Hydrad, littleB

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 ends at 6. Feb, 6 AM Forum time

[Awaclus]

Meh. I mean it's not a bad case, but I'm not convinced, I'd much rather lynch Awaclus or Jimmmmm.

If it's not a bad case, why lynch me?