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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #250 on: December 22, 2014, 12:23:13 pm »

Joseph, I think you are scum, so the idea of you telling me to be more helpful is kind of funny

dim dim

and I just posted a reads list, so there you go

Yes, that was helpful, thanks :)

Also, as I mentioned before, I don't think you're scum, think what your doing would be a really dumb scum move, as it attracts attention to yourself.

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #251 on: December 22, 2014, 12:40:59 pm »

Also, this game has very little information, would be good to see more information.
Also not sure why people find me so scummy, but I'm only L-3, so hopefully we'll find a better lynch.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #252 on: December 22, 2014, 02:07:52 pm »

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.

What makes you so sure that there is scum lurking?

And yeah, I'm experiecing some trouble with logging in as well.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #253 on: December 22, 2014, 02:09:54 pm »

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.

because lurking can be a scum tactic. Also, the active players in general seem reasonably townie, which in turn means those not so active look worse.

What makes you so sure that there is scum lurking?

And yeah, I'm experiecing some trouble with logging in as well.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #254 on: December 22, 2014, 02:12:04 pm »

Most players that aren't active are VLA though, so thats not an alignment tell.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #255 on: December 22, 2014, 02:13:45 pm »

The syntax of my last post should be:

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.

What makes you so sure that there is scum lurking?

And yeah, I'm experiecing some trouble with logging in as well.

because lurking can be a scum tactic. Also, the active players in general seem reasonably townie, which in turn means those not so active look worse.

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #256 on: December 22, 2014, 02:17:44 pm »

Most players that aren't active are VLA though, so thats not an alignment tell.

True, but only WW and sudgy have declared themself V/LA. EgorK, Hydrad and Seprix have not many posts, and no V/LA claim.

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #257 on: December 22, 2014, 02:40:37 pm »

silverspawn, you're making me want dim sum.

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« Reply #258 on: December 22, 2014, 02:45:07 pm »

I'm only L-3

Just to correct, I'm actually L-4 (with 3 votes), as ashersky switched from voting me to voting silverspawn. Probably doesn't matter right now, but good to have the correct information.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #259 on: December 22, 2014, 02:51:00 pm »

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

In other words, there is no scum lurking.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #260 on: December 22, 2014, 03:18:42 pm »

Going to try and post more today.

Also I'm not sure if I'm the only one. But do others confuse faust on josephs pictures a bunch? I keep reading something from faust and thinking its from joseph or vice versa. Might be just me though.
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« Reply #261 on: December 22, 2014, 03:22:58 pm »

Going to try and post more today.

Also I'm not sure if I'm the only one. But do others confuse faust on josephs pictures a bunch? I keep reading something from faust and thinking its from joseph or vice versa. Might be just me though.

Yeah, this page looked a lot like a long Joseph monologue to me.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #262 on: December 22, 2014, 03:25:47 pm »

In fairness, I got confused yesterday because I thought I'd written an entire monologue. So yes, even I got confused by our pictures.
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« Reply #263 on: December 22, 2014, 03:29:36 pm »

well some things i'll say at the moment before i start work is.

I think SS playing is a bit annoying but not really a tell for either alignment.

I don't see fausts stuff as scummy. Although i don't know when I've ever thought faust was scum. The only time I've seen him scum I think was when I was scum with him.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #264 on: December 22, 2014, 04:13:17 pm »

Joseph, I think you are scum, so the idea of you telling me to be more helpful is kind of funny

dim dim

and I just posted a reads list, so there you go

Yes, that was helpful, thanks :)

Also, as I mentioned before, I don't think you're scum, think what your doing would be a really dumb scum move, as it attracts attention to yourself.

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.

Worrying about people perceiving your posting patterns in a certain way is a bit of a scum tell.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #265 on: December 22, 2014, 05:01:15 pm »

Joseph, I think you are scum, so the idea of you telling me to be more helpful is kind of funny

dim dim

and I just posted a reads list, so there you go

Yes, that was helpful, thanks :)

Also, as I mentioned before, I don't think you're scum, think what your doing would be a really dumb scum move, as it attracts attention to yourself.

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.

Worrying about people perceiving your posting patterns in a certain way is a bit of a scum tell.

No it's not. If you're town, you want to look town. If you're scum, you still want to look town. That's not a tell. There's no tell that 100% works. You're all just shooting in the dark. So please, if we have to lynch someone, let's lynch someone we all think is scum, and not just guess.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #266 on: December 22, 2014, 05:05:03 pm »

No, I was telling people I can't necessary get online, it's like a V/LA. Although f.ds seems to be fine though now :)
Also, V/LA Christmas and Boxing Day.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #267 on: December 22, 2014, 05:10:52 pm »

No it's not. If you're town, you want to look town. If you're scum, you still want to look town. That's not a tell. There's no tell that 100% works. You're all just shooting in the dark. So please, if we have to lynch someone, let's lynch someone we all think is scum, and not just guess.

But town doesn't typically have to worry too much about looking town as scum does, because 1) they really are town so any arguments against them would be false anyway 2) even if they get lynched, it doesn't hurt town as much as lynching scum hurts scum. Is there any particular reason why you don't want to lynch Joseph?
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« Reply #268 on: December 22, 2014, 05:13:58 pm »

No it's not. If you're town, you want to look town. If you're scum, you still want to look town. That's not a tell. There's no tell that 100% works. You're all just shooting in the dark. So please, if we have to lynch someone, let's lynch someone we all think is scum, and not just guess.

But town doesn't typically have to worry too much about looking town as scum does, because 1) they really are town so any arguments against them would be false anyway 2) even if they get lynched, it doesn't hurt town as much as lynching scum hurts scum. Is there any particular reason why you don't want to lynch Joseph?

Because if you don't lynch me, so could lynch scum instead?
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #269 on: December 22, 2014, 05:21:29 pm »

silverspawn, you're making me want dim sum.

I have no idea what that means

No it's not. If you're town, you want to look town. If you're scum, you still want to look town. That's not a tell. There's no tell that 100% works. You're all just shooting in the dark. So please, if we have to lynch someone, let's lynch someone we all think is scum, and not just guess.
This most makes no sense. Let's not guess, let's instead guess.

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« Reply #270 on: December 22, 2014, 05:21:37 pm »

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #271 on: December 22, 2014, 06:43:20 pm »

Joseph, I think you are scum, so the idea of you telling me to be more helpful is kind of funny

dim dim

and I just posted a reads list, so there you go

Yes, that was helpful, thanks :)

Also, as I mentioned before, I don't think you're scum, think what your doing would be a really dumb scum move, as it attracts attention to yourself.

I'm pretty certain there's a scum lurking, more sure than I am on either chairs (who seems like an easy mislynch, as in M53) or faust (who I still think is scum, but less sure).

Hence, Unvote: faust .

On a different note, I've had problems logging onto f.ds (i've been able to get on twice in 3hrs), so if I'm away/slow-responding, it's not my fault.

Worrying about people perceiving your posting patterns in a certain way is a bit of a scum tell.

No it's not. If you're town, you want to look town. If you're scum, you still want to look town. That's not a tell. There's no tell that 100% works. You're all just shooting in the dark. So please, if we have to lynch someone, let's lynch someone we all think is scum, and not just guess.

Day 1 lynches are usually a guess though. There is so little information to go off of that you are pretty much never going to be 100% sure if you hit scum or not. Well actually even later in the days you're never really 100% sure.

So you kinda just have to try and figure out the most likely and go with it because having a no lynch is almost always worse (yes there are times where no lynch is correct) then lynching a random target.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #272 on: December 23, 2014, 06:52:28 am »

So, we should probably lynch Joseph, he's scummy as hell. There's an issue with the deadline though, if most of us are VLA until the 27th, there may not be enough time to deal with claims and stuff. So I'm actually in favor of having Joseph claim right away.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #273 on: December 23, 2014, 07:01:57 am »

So, we should probably lynch Joseph, he's scummy as hell. There's an issue with the deadline though, if most of us are VLA until the 27th, there may not be enough time to deal with claims and stuff. So I'm actually in favor of having Joseph claim right away.

I think he's scummy, too, but it could just be him.  This is his first game, right?  Day 1 pass.

I like silverspawn for day 1.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #274 on: December 23, 2014, 07:15:07 am »

So, we should probably lynch Joseph, he's scummy as hell. There's an issue with the deadline though, if most of us are VLA until the 27th, there may not be enough time to deal with claims and stuff. So I'm actually in favor of having Joseph claim right away.

I think he's scummy, too, but it could just be him.  This is his first game, right?  Day 1 pass.

I like silverspawn for day 1.

I don't think this is Joseph's first game:

Faust just feels scummy to me (for the combination of factors mentioned previously), in stark contrast to M53, when he seemed really towny to me.
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