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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #150 on: December 19, 2014, 12:20:52 pm »

OMGUS is never a towny reaction... unless it's voting ashersky.

But I will also vote: chairs.  HE IS NOT A TABLE.

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« Reply #151 on: December 19, 2014, 12:27:42 pm »

OMGUS is never a towny reaction... unless it's voting ashersky.

But I will also vote: chairs.  HE IS NOT A TABLE.

Wait, what? Voting for yourself? Also, if you were Tables, I'd be a lot more suspicious of you.
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« Reply #152 on: December 19, 2014, 12:42:42 pm »

I'm taking this game more as a learning experience, because I've never played Mafia on a Forum before. And if you can't have fun, what's the point of a game?

That being said, I wasn't being serious with my votes. I have no real reason to hang anyone. Yet. I mean, if someone says they're 'scum' or a bad guy, then we will have a lynchin'. But as it stands, I find my reasons to temporarily condemn someone to be the same reasons you guys are currently throwing around accusations. For the fun of it. I mean, really. If you guys were being serious about the 'Yule Ham' thing, I'm shocked. I thought it was all fun and games.

If it wasn't a game.. Then damn. This is going to be a loooooooooooong first day....
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« Reply #153 on: December 19, 2014, 12:49:58 pm »

I'm taking this game more as a learning experience, because I've never played Mafia on a Forum before. And if you can't have fun, what's the point of a game?

That being said, I wasn't being serious with my votes. I have no real reason to hang anyone. Yet. I mean, if someone says they're 'scum' or a bad guy, then we will have a lynchin'. But as it stands, I find my reasons to temporarily condemn someone to be the same reasons you guys are currently throwing around accusations. For the fun of it. I mean, really. If you guys were being serious about the 'Yule Ham' thing, I'm shocked. I thought it was all fun and games.

If it wasn't a game.. Then damn. This is going to be a loooooooooooong first day....

it is a game, and it is serious. it can be both. there is a genre of mafia games that no-one is taking serious, that's called bastard. If it's not bastard, then you should try to win. the fun comes from winning, or at least playing well and getting scum lynched (or in case of scum, avoiding suspicion).

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« Reply #154 on: December 19, 2014, 01:03:48 pm »

OMGUS is never a towny reaction... unless it's voting ashersky.

But I will also vote: chairs.  HE IS NOT A TABLE.

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #155 on: December 19, 2014, 01:10:06 pm »

I'm taking this game more as a learning experience, because I've never played Mafia on a Forum before. And if you can't have fun, what's the point of a game?

That being said, I wasn't being serious with my votes. I have no real reason to hang anyone. Yet. I mean, if someone says they're 'scum' or a bad guy, then we will have a lynchin'. But as it stands, I find my reasons to temporarily condemn someone to be the same reasons you guys are currently throwing around accusations. For the fun of it. I mean, really. If you guys were being serious about the 'Yule Ham' thing, I'm shocked. I thought it was all fun and games.

If it wasn't a game.. Then damn. This is going to be a loooooooooooong first day....

Well, we're obviously trying to win. And scum is obviously not going to say that they're scum, so we have to look at everyone's posts and try to find out which players look like they're town because they really are town and which players look like they're town because they try to look like they're town because they're scum. If we could have found that out through other means, then that would have been super good, so it was worth trying — and even though we didn't manage to directly catch anyone, it led to a lot of posts being written with a lot of material that we can use to try to find the scum. Usually it doesn't work on Day 1 and then a townie is mislynched anyway, but we should still try, because there's a chance that it works out and we successfully lynch scum D1, and it's a lot easier for scum to just blend in when nothing is really happening in the game.

it is a game, and it is serious. it can be both. there is a genre of mafia games that no-one is taking serious, that's called bastard. If it's not bastard, then you should try to win. the fun comes from winning, or at least playing well and getting scum lynched (or in case of scum, avoiding suspicion).

For me, it comes from trying to win. The actual result stops mattering the moment the game is over.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #156 on: December 19, 2014, 01:13:18 pm »

True true. I think we could run a bunch of simulated games, and see the odds of lynching someone the first day vs. not lynching anyone at all and see which is better for wins statistically. Seems like something worth researching.
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« Reply #157 on: December 19, 2014, 01:54:52 pm »

We have a finite number of lynches, and giving one up gives scum an extra NK. If we lynch, there's a chance that we hit scum and a chance we hit town. If we give the kill to scum, there's a 100% chance that it will be a town player.
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« Reply #158 on: December 19, 2014, 02:04:46 pm »

We have a finite number of lynches, and giving one up gives scum an extra NK. If we lynch, there's a chance that we hit scum and a chance we hit town. If we give the kill to scum, there's a 100% chance that it will be a town player.

That was really logical. Duh! I feel dumb.

It goes to show that if you ask a question in a different way or look at it in a different light, it becomes obvious. >_>
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« Reply #159 on: December 19, 2014, 02:25:07 pm »

To be fair, "why don't we no-lynch?" is a question that a lot of newbies ask. And that fact that you're asking these questions is what's making me lean towards the opinion that you're town, since a newbie scum player is more likely to have received some coaching in the scum QT before the game.
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« Reply #160 on: December 19, 2014, 02:29:14 pm »

To be fair, "why don't we no-lynch?" is a question that a lot of newbies ask. And that fact that you're asking these questions is what's making me lean towards the opinion that you're town, since a newbie scum player is more likely to have received some coaching in the scum QT before the game.

Might as well ask another question.

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« Reply #161 on: December 19, 2014, 02:34:02 pm »

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« Reply #162 on: December 19, 2014, 02:38:48 pm »

Seprix gets the same "don't lynch the new guy on D1" pass that all newbie get.

I'm not giving him town points for his newbie questions, which are easily posed as either alignment.
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« Reply #163 on: December 19, 2014, 03:27:14 pm »

Checking in.  Was there a point to claiming all the flavor stuff other than to clarify the issue with the PM mistake?  Should I do mine?

I was really disappointed how you weren't there when the whole flavor discussion happened. I counted on your "Reading flavor is a scum tell".
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« Reply #164 on: December 19, 2014, 03:28:10 pm »

I don't get any scum vibe from chairs right now.
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« Reply #165 on: December 19, 2014, 03:39:48 pm »

I don't get any scum vibe from chairs right now.

That surprises me.
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« Reply #166 on: December 19, 2014, 03:44:27 pm »

I don't get any scum vibe from chairs right now.

That surprises me.

Yeah, me too.
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« Reply #167 on: December 19, 2014, 03:45:37 pm »

Checking in.  Was there a point to claiming all the flavor stuff other than to clarify the issue with the PM mistake?  Should I do mine?

I was really disappointed how you weren't there when the whole flavor discussion happened. I counted on your "Reading flavor is a scum tell".

Being predictable is a scum tell!
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« Reply #168 on: December 19, 2014, 06:02:21 pm »

Oh, and vote: sudgy for continuing a now useless cluttering flavor discussion.

Vote: faust for not voting for someone who did it before me.

Like chairs.  Vote: chairs.  This that I just mentioned is just icing on the cake.
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« Reply #169 on: December 19, 2014, 06:07:57 pm »

Vote: faust for not voting for someone who did it before me.

Like chairs.  Vote: chairs.  This that I just mentioned is just icing on the cake.

You're very eager to attack. I think you're trying to look like you're not scum because you're so eager to help. I think Faust is too, because his second vote for chairs overrides his Faust vote.

VOTE: Sudgy
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« Reply #170 on: December 19, 2014, 06:12:59 pm »

faust's vote for sudgy is a little odd, and I don't like that he doesn't like the chairs lynch. People should like the chairs lynch. It's a good lynch.
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« Reply #171 on: December 19, 2014, 06:20:19 pm »

faust's vote for sudgy is a little odd, and I don't like that he doesn't like the chairs lynch. People should like the chairs lynch. It's a good lynch.

I tend to agree with you, chairs lynch seems quite good, there is not currently a better option IMO.
So, who should I trust less then- chairs for looking scummiest, or faust for supporting the scummiest person?
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« Reply #172 on: December 19, 2014, 07:04:11 pm »

If you think that's confusing, Joe, think about where I am!  Do I give Faust town points for correctly reading me as Town, or scum points for correctly reading me as Town?

I'm leaning scum, because I am apparently the scummity scum scummiest today.

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« Reply #173 on: December 20, 2014, 12:27:13 am »

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« Reply #174 on: December 20, 2014, 04:45:42 am »

faust's vote for sudgy is a little odd, and I don't like that he doesn't like the chairs lynch. People should like the chairs lynch. It's a good lynch.

Are you able to give any reasons?
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