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[xxpittip]

I don't think song claiming would help anyone, because there is no way to verify that the claimed song is really the submitted song...

[Witherweaver]

Oh, it could possibly help verify a claim down the road.  If someone claims Cop and it at all makes sense with the song they claimed today, then we might have more reason to believe them.  Scum would have to plan ahead a fake roleclaim for that.

Though, it really only works if the link is subtle. We obviously wouldn't want to claim a song name that it strongly correlated to a town PR.

[Witherweaver]

I don't think song claiming would help anyone, because there is no way to verify that the claimed song is really the submitted song...

No, but if you're listening to, like, Bruno Mars, we can make fun of you.

[Eevee]

Well, song names are somehow tied to roles (or at least have that chance), since Arch said he'd be using them to determine roles.  The link could be obscure, though.  I guess if you have a song name that strongly links to your PR you can just claim a different song, as Ichi said.

I don't have much of a problem with it.

What could we gain, now or down the road?

Nothing really, just stuff to talk about.  So, yeah.

Yeah, stuff that would clutter the thread, could cause town to lie and is otherwise no way indicative of alignments in the game. Still voting no.

[Witherweaver]

Well, song names are somehow tied to roles (or at least have that chance), since Arch said he'd be using them to determine roles.  The link could be obscure, though.  I guess if you have a song name that strongly links to your PR you can just claim a different song, as Ichi said.

I don't have much of a problem with it.

What could we gain, now or down the road?

Nothing really, just stuff to talk about.  So, yeah.

Yeah, stuff that would clutter the thread, could cause town to lie and is otherwise no way indicative of alignments in the game. Still voting no.

What do you want to talk about instead?

[Eevee]

I don't think song claiming would help anyone, because there is no way to verify that the claimed song is really the submitted song...

No, but if you're listening to, like, Bruno Mars, we can make fun of you.

Don't be ashamed now. You are amazing, you just the way you are.

[Eevee]

Well, song names are somehow tied to roles (or at least have that chance), since Arch said he'd be using them to determine roles.  The link could be obscure, though.  I guess if you have a song name that strongly links to your PR you can just claim a different song, as Ichi said.

I don't have much of a problem with it.

What could we gain, now or down the road?

Nothing really, just stuff to talk about.  So, yeah.

Yeah, stuff that would clutter the thread, could cause town to lie and is otherwise no way indicative of alignments in the game. Still voting no.

What do you want to talk about instead?

I don't know. Do we usually kickstart games by discussing flavor?

[Witherweaver]

I don't think song claiming would help anyone, because there is no way to verify that the claimed song is really the submitted song...

No, but if you're listening to, like, Bruno Mars, we can make fun of you.

Don't be ashamed now. You are amazing, you just the way you are.

Vote: Eevee for buddying.

[Witherweaver]

Well, song names are somehow tied to roles (or at least have that chance), since Arch said he'd be using them to determine roles.  The link could be obscure, though.  I guess if you have a song name that strongly links to your PR you can just claim a different song, as Ichi said.

I don't have much of a problem with it.

What could we gain, now or down the road?

Nothing really, just stuff to talk about.  So, yeah.

Yeah, stuff that would clutter the thread, could cause town to lie and is otherwise no way indicative of alignments in the game. Still voting no.

What do you want to talk about instead?

I don't know. Do we usually kickstart games by discussing flavor?

Depends on the game I think.  Though we usually kickstart games by discussing whether or not we should be discussing things.

[Eevee]

Well, song names are somehow tied to roles (or at least have that chance), since Arch said he'd be using them to determine roles.  The link could be obscure, though.  I guess if you have a song name that strongly links to your PR you can just claim a different song, as Ichi said.

I don't have much of a problem with it.

What could we gain, now or down the road?

Nothing really, just stuff to talk about.  So, yeah.

Yeah, stuff that would clutter the thread, could cause town to lie and is otherwise no way indicative of alignments in the game. Still voting no.

What do you want to talk about instead?

I don't know. Do we usually kickstart games by discussing flavor?

Depends on the game I think.  Though we usually kickstart games by discussing whether or not we should be discussing things.

Yep, and eventually stumble to a lynch, and then really start playing tomorrow by analyzing the wagon and the nightkill. I think that'll work here too.

[sudgy]

Vote: silverspawn for obvious reasons.

I think we should all claim if our songs are noticeably related to our role (VT or otherwise (although, of course claim if you're scum )).  If everybody says no, maybe we can song claim.  My song is not noticeably related to my role.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: silverspawn for obvious reasons.

I think we should all claim if our songs are noticeably related to our role (VT or otherwise (although, of course claim if you're scum )).  If everybody says no, maybe we can song claim.  My song is not noticeably related to my role.

Uhh.. this sounds suspiciously close to claiming PR/not PR. 

[sudgy]

Vote: silverspawn for obvious reasons.

I think we should all claim if our songs are noticeably related to our role (VT or otherwise (although, of course claim if you're scum )).  If everybody says no, maybe we can song claim.  My song is not noticeably related to my role.

Uhh.. this sounds suspiciously close to claiming PR/not PR.

If you're VT, your song could have been some obviously bland song (or song about blandness), and you would say your song is related to your role.  If you're a PR, your song could be just completely different from the song.  If your role is similar to your song, it doesn't necessarily say if you're a PR or not a PR.

[Witherweaver]

I have trouble coming up with a song that I would consider related to VT.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I have trouble coming up with a song that I would consider related to VT.

same

[Eevee]

Pulp - Common people

[Beyond Awesome]

Vote: silverspawn for obvious reasons.

I think we should all claim if our songs are noticeably related to our role (VT or otherwise (although, of course claim if you're scum )).  If everybody says no, maybe we can song claim.  My song is not noticeably related to my role.

Uhh.. this sounds suspiciously close to claiming PR/not PR.

Agreed.

Vote: Sudgy for trying to out power roles.

[silverspawn]

I don't think song claiming would help anyone, because there is no way to verify that the claimed song is really the submitted song...

No, but if you're listening to, like, Bruno Mars, we can make fun of you.

Don't be ashamed now. You are amazing, you just the way you are.

Vote: Eevee for buddying.

vote: WW for voting Eevee.

[silverspawn]

*vote: WW

[silverspawn]

and I am very strongly against song claiming, or saying how our songs relate to our role. sudgy, what even gave you the idea to do it before discussing it? vote: sudgy

[silverspawn]

I plan to play reasonable this game btw

back to vote: WW for voting for Eevee

[silverspawn]

I have trouble coming up with a song that I would consider related to VT.

same

every single pop or hip hop song ever created?

though those are probably scum songs

[Ichimaru Gin]

I have trouble coming up with a song that I would consider related to VT.

same

every single pop or hip hop song ever created?

though those are probably scum songs

I don't really care for that sort of music either, but I think that's exactly the point. It's up to the Mod's discretion, tastes/standards in deciding how songs relate to roles--and that's information we can't really know for sure. Your example seems like a standard of mainstream music = VT which seems like relatively plausible.

[silverspawn]

exactly, so claiming is a bad idea, because it allows scum to snipe PR's.

[Teproc]

It's been said already, but there's very little upside for town in claiming songs for town. Scum has a better idea of how closely related their songs are to their roles since they have several (depending on how any scumteams there are), so opening up that information has a tiny chance of helping them and zero chance of helping us.

Well there is the argument that it would help against fakeclaims, but I think that's a dangerous road to go on because the connection miht be flimsy, could be entirely related to Archetype's personal tastes or whatever, so I don't think we should consider flavor too much while evaluating claims in this game.