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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #350 on: November 24, 2014, 08:40:17 pm »

Here's a question.

Ichi, you keep saying I'm scummy. Why are you not voting ?
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #351 on: November 24, 2014, 08:40:41 pm »

Maybe "keep saying" is an overstatement, but you get my point.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #352 on: November 24, 2014, 08:46:36 pm »

I have pretty much no motivation to post as of now. I'll just wait for something to happen, since my participation is apparently more scummy than lurking.

Sorry, I don't buy this as legitimate.

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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #353 on: November 24, 2014, 08:48:55 pm »

Because I am feeling less certain that you are scum. I've OMGUS-voted much in the past, but over time realized it's not the most effective way to catch scum. I've had my share of town vs. town fights, so have come to realize that those suspecting me can be town as well. (Yes, it was quite the revelation for me).
Honestly, I'm still mystified at your scum read on me--since I consider you one of the better people at reading me.

I almost feel like claiming now, although not sure that it would be terribly productive.

Obviously I didn't mean what I said that I wouldn't post. Really though, deep down you know I'm town and I just haven't had a lot of content so far. What has actually happened? The discussion surrounding song-claiming and a few weak wagons. I gave some strong opinions about song claiming and eventually changed my mind based upon what others said.

If my responses to these questions are just supporting your read on me, then I guess I give up. We all have to be mislynched sometime right? Although it peeves me because of course I'm responsible for my own mislynch, which harms town.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #354 on: November 24, 2014, 08:51:18 pm »

I agree on ADK--although I think scum may also not defend their partner and just hope his lynch doesn't go through. Stalling the game is an effective tactic.

Nearly all of his posts are very short, and I don't even recall the case on him. A quick reread of all his posts didn't reveal anything that looked overtly scummy to me either. ADK's thoughts on the sudgy wagon are good I think.

We need more participation from the lurkers though!

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Never mind, reading the rest of Ichi makes me want to

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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #355 on: November 24, 2014, 08:54:04 pm »

Vote: Beyond Awesome
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #356 on: November 24, 2014, 11:33:20 pm »

Ichi's latest seems very towny to me as far as defenses go. I don't agree with lynching ADK, whenever someone is universally suspected for something small, they are usually town. The stalling also implies scum likes the current game state. I still like lynching sudgy, I think his early play was very scummy and he hasn't done anything to convince me otherwise still.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #357 on: November 24, 2014, 11:44:16 pm »

ADK, are you seriously still RVS voting me?
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #358 on: November 25, 2014, 01:13:40 am »

I don't get the ADK wagon. Can someone please explain why you guys think ADK is scum? I think I have only played with him in Greater Idea which was the first game I ever played, and I had no idea what was going on? Someone brought up the argument that scum might try to defend him or stop him from getting lynched. The fact the game has stalled with ADK a vote away from a lynch is interesting. ADK has not posted much to make me think he's not scum. I mean, when you are so close to being lynched, you would try to defend yourself a bit if you were town, I think. I don't get it. This actually makes me think it very much is possible that ADK is scum.

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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #359 on: November 25, 2014, 01:45:07 am »

Well even though I like a ADK lynch we still have till friday. So don't feel forced to lynch right now unless nothing seems to happen and this game keeps slowing down.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #360 on: November 25, 2014, 01:49:59 am »

I'd wager that you hammering right now would be a pretty scummy move. Better to wait. At least give him a chance to claim, right?

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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #361 on: November 25, 2014, 01:54:39 am »

vote: ADK

THIS IS L-1
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I still don't particularly care for his "I like chairs' argument on sudgy" when I literally made none and just wrapped an empty vote in the sound of silence.

And for those of you who are missing my dope beats, don't worry, I'll bring more soon :)

It's more "I like a wagon and want to see where it will lead."
The wagon has multiple legitimate reasons and you haven't done much to defend yourself. Why should we not vote for you?
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #362 on: November 25, 2014, 01:57:17 am »

I'd wager that you hammering right now would be a pretty scummy move. Better to wait. At least give him a chance to claim, right?
Agreed, we have enough time to wait. No need to do anything too rushed.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #363 on: November 25, 2014, 01:58:50 am »

Actually. I take it back. I usually tend to support longer days being better for town and giving people chances, but this game has stalled a fair amount. It seems like people have been hitting scum D1 a lot more often. Town quickhammers could be a thing...

PPE 1: for sure. The existence of PR's means we should least give him a claiming chance. Unless ADK flips scum, hammering without a claim is bad, bad, bad.

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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #364 on: November 25, 2014, 02:05:46 am »

vote: ADK

THIS IS L-1
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I still don't particularly care for his "I like chairs' argument on sudgy" when I literally made none and just wrapped an empty vote in the sound of silence.

And for those of you who are missing my dope beats, don't worry, I'll bring more soon :)

It's more "I like a wagon and want to see where it will lead."
The wagon has multiple legitimate reasons and you haven't done much to defend yourself. Why should we not vote for you?

What exactly are those again?
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #365 on: November 25, 2014, 02:12:18 am »

ADK, are you seriously still RVS voting me?

Other people are calling it RVS, not me.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #366 on: November 25, 2014, 02:21:39 am »


The wagon has multiple legitimate reasons and you haven't done much to defend yourself. Why should we not vote for you?

What exactly are those again?

Sudgy:
Eevee being quiet on day 1 is pretty normal, I don't think I've played with Beyond Awesome yet... maybe the Greater Idea Mafia ?

ADK, why did you change your mind on sudgy ?

chairs convinced me with the magic of poetry.

Vote: ADK We have plenty to go off of already, you need more than RVS reasons to vote.

chairs:
vote: ADK

THIS IS L-1
.

I still don't particularly care for his "I like chairs' argument on sudgy" when I literally made none and just wrapped an empty vote in the sound of silence.


beyond awesome:
I don't get the ADK wagon. Can someone please explain why you guys think ADK is scum? I think I have only played with him in Greater Idea which was the first game I ever played, and I had no idea what was going on? Someone brought up the argument that scum might try to defend him or stop him from getting lynched. The fact the game has stalled with ADK a vote away from a lynch is interesting. ADK has not posted much to make me think he's not scum. I mean, when you are so close to being lynched, you would try to defend yourself a bit if you were town, I think. I don't get it. This actually makes me think it very much is possible that ADK is scum.

Intent to hammer.

pit:

chairs convinced me with the magic of poetry.

1. If this is a lie: That definitely looks like scum to me (why would town lie about their reasons to think someone is scummy?)
2. If this the truth: If someone (potential scum) can convince him so easily to follow his / her vote, scum could abuse this to get wagons on town people. (I think 2 is less likely since he is one of the more experienced players)

Vote: ADK
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #367 on: November 25, 2014, 02:36:21 am »


The wagon has multiple legitimate reasons and you haven't done much to defend yourself. Why should we not vote for you?

What exactly are those again?

Sudgy:
Eevee being quiet on day 1 is pretty normal, I don't think I've played with Beyond Awesome yet... maybe the Greater Idea Mafia ?

ADK, why did you change your mind on sudgy ?

chairs convinced me with the magic of poetry.

Vote: ADK We have plenty to go off of already, you need more than RVS reasons to vote.

chairs:
vote: ADK

THIS IS L-1
.

I still don't particularly care for his "I like chairs' argument on sudgy" when I literally made none and just wrapped an empty vote in the sound of silence.


beyond awesome:
I don't get the ADK wagon. Can someone please explain why you guys think ADK is scum? I think I have only played with him in Greater Idea which was the first game I ever played, and I had no idea what was going on? Someone brought up the argument that scum might try to defend him or stop him from getting lynched. The fact the game has stalled with ADK a vote away from a lynch is interesting. ADK has not posted much to make me think he's not scum. I mean, when you are so close to being lynched, you would try to defend yourself a bit if you were town, I think. I don't get it. This actually makes me think it very much is possible that ADK is scum.

Intent to hammer.

pit:

chairs convinced me with the magic of poetry.

1. If this is a lie: That definitely looks like scum to me (why would town lie about their reasons to think someone is scummy?)
2. If this the truth: If someone (potential scum) can convince him so easily to follow his / her vote, scum could abuse this to get wagons on town people. (I think 2 is less likely since he is one of the more experienced players)

Vote: ADK

So what it basically comes down to is that people don't like that I voted for sudgy and then was flippant about it. I don't have a lot to go on, since this game hasn't had much happening yet, and I haven't been as engaged as I have in other games. Which, to be fair, is on me. But it's certainly not a reason to lynch me, and I think that there's almost certainly scum on my wagon trying to push my lynch through. I'm getting a scummy vibe from sudgy and so I'm voting for him, I'm sorry I can't give you a more detailed analysis than that.

If people seriously want my claim then I'll give it, otherwise put your votes somewhere more sensible.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #368 on: November 25, 2014, 02:46:11 am »

I think that's a fair assessment of the case on you. You made a joke; I don't really find that scummy. I think people are making more out of it than it really is. That's why I'm not voting you, and I think we should look elsewhere for our lynch today.

Though I don't think I have the best record of reading you. I recall my second game, House of Cards where I mislynched Nik. I even remember which class I was waiting for when we lynched him. I remember, but I'm not voting for you now cause I think (fingers crossed) you're town.

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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #369 on: November 25, 2014, 05:26:06 am »

I mean, upon reading chairs's poem, my first instinct was "that's so awesome it deserves to be sheeped", so I definitely sympathize with ADK. The wagon seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #370 on: November 25, 2014, 05:27:30 am »

It's noteworthy that the wagon was started and pushed by someone who was in trouble themselves, sudgy. That people find this better than him is very suspicions to me.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #371 on: November 25, 2014, 08:01:32 am »

I've been kind of demoralized, but since I only have this game now, I ought to be able to devote my whole attention to it. From gut, I think sudgy is a better lynch than ADK, but we really need info.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #372 on: November 25, 2014, 08:03:19 am »

Because I am feeling less certain that you are scum. I've OMGUS-voted much in the past, but over time realized it's not the most effective way to catch scum. I've had my share of town vs. town fights, so have come to realize that those suspecting me can be town as well. (Yes, it was quite the revelation for me).
Honestly, I'm still mystified at your scum read on me--since I consider you one of the better people at reading me.

I almost feel like claiming now, although not sure that it would be terribly productive.

Obviously I didn't mean what I said that I wouldn't post. Really though, deep down you know I'm town and I just haven't had a lot of content so far. What has actually happened? The discussion surrounding song-claiming and a few weak wagons. I gave some strong opinions about song claiming and eventually changed my mind based upon what others said.

If my responses to these questions are just supporting your read on me, then I guess I give up. We all have to be mislynched sometime right? Although it peeves me because of course I'm responsible for my own mislynch, which harms town.
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Theere we go, this is a townie sounding post.

vote: sudgy
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #373 on: November 25, 2014, 09:24:52 am »

What happened to silver? Only 2 short posts in almost 5 days... I'm not sure if that's scummy or just weird

there's also a non-explicit policy to lynch all lurkers, so you should post more

We never seem to actually use that policy though.

we should though. I support lurker lynches.
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Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D1
« Reply #374 on: November 25, 2014, 09:31:00 am »

What happened to silver? Only 2 short posts in almost 5 days... I'm not sure if that's scummy or just weird

there's also a non-explicit policy to lynch all lurkers, so you should post more

We never seem to actually use that policy though.

we should though. I support lurker lynches.

Fish mafia just ended and I was super active there and scum; Guilds mafia just ended and I more or less refused to contribute there and was town. I'm not sure if being active now is the best thing to do, although I am town here.
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