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PPE:  vote: reinoe

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TwistedArcher has claimed scum.  Why aren't we lynching obvious scum?

make a real case.  TA has done nothing scummy whatsoever.  You have claimed the neighborhood and his flavor name.  Both of which might have been used later on during night or on future days depending on his role

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I am just glad you didn't get his role PM or you would have quoted the whole thing here

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TwistedArcher has claimed scum.  Why aren't we lynching obvious scum?

make a real case.  TA has done nothing scummy whatsoever.  You have claimed the neighborhood and his flavor name.  Both of which might have been used later on during night or on future days depending on his role

I know I would be pissed off with my neighbor claiming that stuff without even talking to me about it

[Ichimaru Gin]

@Twistedarcher
For the record, I think you're town--and I don't really care for the way reinoe is aggressively pushing your lynch, though it could also be I am less used to the different style of play. The person I really want to lynch today is e, but I don't know if we're going for a no-lynch instead.

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ok.  unvote

don't want to lynch reinoe today and I have to go soon and I don't want my vote hanging out there for the next day or so.

[Twistedarcher]

why'd you vote him if you don't want to lynch him?

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why'd you vote him if you don't want to lynch him?

because his argument was floccinaucinihilipilification in my opinion. 

[Ichimaru Gin]

e's play here is really confusing me. We seem to be in agreement regarding reinoe, but his (e's) reads seem kind of sporadic. I actually think his last few posts are pretty townie. He put down some reads and then put a good vote on reinoe; I don't see why he unvoted him though.

PPE: e ?

[Twistedarcher]

I think E/Ichi strikes me as more town/town than anything else.

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I like a vote: xeiron

just read through his posts.  Involved, lots of theory talk, getting a feel for how the game is moving along.  He had his long mathy odds post that made him conclude that no-lynching is bad.  He jumped on the L-1 bandwagon.  Just has done things that don't really stick out and is in a comfortable place to be scum.

[Twistedarcher]

Sure, I'll sheep that. Vote: Xeiron

[silverspawn]

I hate that I can't join a mafia game on this forum anymore without regretting it.

Sorry, I know I was the reason for that last time. I thought you were too friendly to be scum, when you were just being friendly. If it's any consolation, I don't suspect you in this game so far.

[silverspawn]

Sure, I'll sheep that. Vote: Xeiron

vote: Xeiron

[reinoe]

TwistedArcher has claimed scum.  Why aren't we lynching obvious scum?

make a real case.  TA has done nothing scummy whatsoever.  You have claimed the neighborhood and his flavor name.  Both of which might have been used later on during night or on future days depending on his role

In fact here's the discussion in the neighborhood (paraphrased)
TwistedArcher:who you? (this original post is four words)
me: my name's reinoe. here's a paragraph about me and I miss isotropic.
Twisted archer: I'm twistedarcher. enjoy your first game here
me:here's a paragraph about my unfamiliarity with the theme and i'm diving into the lostwikipedia now
Twisted:yup (his original response was two words)
me: here's a small paragraph on my thoughts about asherkey's plan.
twisted:here's a one sentence response.

Cool.  TA pisses and moans about how I outed the neighborhood, but he never brought up whether the neighborhood should be outed at all.  Ever.  Even though he posted first. 

2) TwistedArcher was deliberately not providing content in the neighborhood.  That's scummy.

3) Why is he pissing and moaning about outing the neiborhood?  He clearly had no intention of using it for anything productive.  He wasn't interrogating me and he wasn't giving content.  Why is he complaining? 

4) TA is being coy about there being no benefit to outing the neighborhood.  We know each other so if the neighborhood never gets outed he can kill me and fake-claim a name that's not in the game.  Now that it's outed he can't fake-claim a name neither can I.  Of course since I'm town I had nothing to hide anyway.

5) TwistedArcher is saying he is suspicious of me based on the role PM.  That makes no sense.  His role PM had us both as husband and wife.  That's not suspicious.  His role PM had us being neighbors in a two person neighborhood.  That's not suspicious.  Him claiming that his role makes him suspicious is absolute garbage.

[reinoe]

I don't really care for the way reinoe is aggressively pushing your lynch,

How do you lynch scum on this forum?  Do you just sheep each other until someone accidentally gets lynched via extended RVS?

[reinoe]

TwistedArcher has claimed scum.  Why aren't we lynching obvious scum?

make a real case.  TA has done nothing scummy whatsoever.  You have claimed the neighborhood and his flavor name.  Both of which might have been used later on during night or on future days depending on his role

I know I would be pissed off with my neighbor claiming that stuff without even talking to me about it

If TwistedArcher wanted to talk about it he would have brought it up.  He didn't and he had plenty of time to do so.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't really care for the way reinoe is aggressively pushing your lynch,

How do you lynch scum on this forum?  Do you just sheep each other until someone accidentally gets lynched via extended RVS?

I have absolutely no trouble with people being aggressive or pushing cases in a hard manner. And I normally see it as a townie trait (as long as it's not on me). However, I see basically no evidence for why you think TA is scum. Aggressively pushing (what I think) is a case with virtually no support is scummy.

Really, I have a hard time thinking you actually want to lynch TA as it comes off as so overeager it almost seems sarcastic.

[reinoe]

I don't really care for the way reinoe is aggressively pushing your lynch,

How do you lynch scum on this forum?  Do you just sheep each other until someone accidentally gets lynched via extended RVS?

I have absolutely no trouble with people being aggressive or pushing cases in a hard manner. And I normally see it as a townie trait (as long as it's not on me). However, I see basically no evidence for why you think TA is scum. Aggressively pushing (what I think) is a case with virtually no support is scummy.

Really, I have a hard time thinking you actually want to lynch TA as it comes off as so overeager it almost seems sarcastic.

He's claimed scum.  Excuse me for being excited about a D1 scumclaim.  "Herp a derp I was suspicious about you because of my role PM and not any of your behavior before the game even started".  So in your universe that mindset is town?

[silverspawn]

I think the problem is the difference of attitude players have on mafiascum and here. Most noticeably, players are much more polite here, and there is also less pressure, no default prod after two days of inactivity, a lot more focus on individuality, and more freedom for creative play. Also, TA is just a really friendly guy, even for this forum.

For example, your 2)

TwistedArcher was deliberately not providing content in the neighborhood.  That's scummy.

Is probably just the result of TA not thinking in terms of content.

So, I don't think TA is scummy based on your case. I think it's more likely that he was just being nice/passive, and didn't think a few things through. But I totally understand why you're making the case.

That said, this

5) TwistedArcher is saying he is suspicious of me based on the role PM.  That makes no sense.  His role PM had us both as husband and wife.  That's not suspicious.  His role PM had us being neighbors in a two person neighborhood.  That's not suspicious.  Him claiming that his role makes him suspicious is absolute garbage.

Is kind of true.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I don't really care for the way reinoe is aggressively pushing your lynch,

How do you lynch scum on this forum?  Do you just sheep each other until someone accidentally gets lynched via extended RVS?

I have absolutely no trouble with people being aggressive or pushing cases in a hard manner. And I normally see it as a townie trait (as long as it's not on me). However, I see basically no evidence for why you think TA is scum. Aggressively pushing (what I think) is a case with virtually no support is scummy.

Really, I have a hard time thinking you actually want to lynch TA as it comes off as so overeager it almost seems sarcastic.

He's claimed scum.  Excuse me for being excited about a D1 scumclaim.  "Herp a derp I was suspicious about you because of my role PM and not any of your behavior before the game even started".  So in your universe that mindset is town?

That is definitely something worth taking into consideration. But I hardly think it constitutes "claiming scum". I'm not saying at all that that makes me think TA is town. I see it as pretty much a null tell for him.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm adding reinoe to my list of "probably town", I don't think scum claims so deliberately and tries so actively to get their fellow neighbor lynched. If anything, they try to win over the trust of the other player.

I'm not seeing the case on TA, though. And I'm honestly fine with my vote on XP.

[Hydrad]

reinoe = eager town
TA = normal TA slight town read
IG = defensive IG! towny even though its not a tell for him. just a gut read right now
XP = town read. which is surprising as I think I have called him scum and tried to lynch him in every game except one
chairs = seems towny
pit = townyish

asher = null but willing to follow his plan
ADK = null I guess? I don't know hes been active but nothings sitting in my memory about him
Teproc = null
WW = null but if I can't find anyone scummy might jump to him because hes really good and scary.
BA = don't even really remember if hes posted yet? so null?
awaclus = null...

e = gut scum read.
SS = weird normal SS and I'm still suspicious about him so would rate as scummy
xerion = I don't know who he is but the case on him isn't bad so i'll rate him as scummy


This started out as just my read on 3 people and then I thought I might as well keep going. I know day 1 reads aren't very useful but I wanted to do it anyways!

[silverspawn]

This started out as just my read on 3 people and then I thought I might as well keep going. I know day 1 reads aren't very useful but I wanted to do it anyways!

!

[reinoe]

TwistedArcher has claimed scum.  Why aren't we lynching obvious scum?

make a real case.  TA has done nothing scummy whatsoever.  You have claimed the neighborhood and his flavor name.  Both of which might have been used later on during night or on future days depending on his role

This makes no  sense.  How can someone "use" their flavor-name at night?  The neighborhood is open all day everyday.  TA has still not posted or even attempted to post any content in there.  In what way do you think he should be using the neighborhood?