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[A Drowned Kernel]

Just so we keep discussion going during the L-1 thingie:

people I feel are especially towny: ash (for plans), WW (willing to go against the grain, taking stances on people), Teproc (similar to WW, though he's fooled me before)
people I feel are especially scummy: chairs (has posted very little of value), XP (just getting a scummy vibe from him, and he never answered my question about why he voted for reinoe)

I haven't seen much out of the ordinary regarding everyone else.

[Witherweaver]

ADK with town reads on me.  What is the world coming to.

[A Drowned Kernel]

ADK with town reads on me.  What is the world coming to.

Don't make me change my mind. You've said pretty much exactly this as scum more than once.

[Witherweaver]

ADK with town reads on me.  What is the world coming to.

Don't make me change my mind. You've said pretty much exactly this as scum more than once.

Well in those games you simply hadn't start accusing me yet.  Now you have a bona fide town read.

[Twistedarcher]

There definitely is upside in claiming neighborhoods TA. It really should have been the first thing done actually, especially if you don't trust your neighbor, which appears to be the case.

To be clear, me not trusting my neighbor has nothing to do with it being reinoe -- I was automatically suspicious as soon as I got my role PM, and would have been regardless of who the neighbor ended up being. I still don't think it should be claimed early, though.

[reinoe]

There definitely is upside in claiming neighborhoods TA. It really should have been the first thing done actually, especially if you don't trust your neighbor, which appears to be the case.

To be clear, me not trusting my neighbor has nothing to do with it being reinoe -- I was automatically suspicious as soon as I got my role PM, and would have been regardless of who the neighbor ended up being. I still don't think it should be claimed early, though.

Really?  You automatically got suspicious after you got your role pm?  I'm very sure that is a scum claim.

I'm Jin-Soo Kwon and Twisted Archer is Sun-Hwa_Kwon.  There is no reason to be "immediately suspicious" when your role PM said that we are husband and wife.

[reinoe]

There definitely is upside in claiming neighborhoods TA. It really should have been the first thing done actually, especially if you don't trust your neighbor, which appears to be the case.

VOTE: TWISTED ARCHER
To be clear, me not trusting my neighbor has nothing to do with it being reinoe -- I was automatically suspicious as soon as I got my role PM, and would have been regardless of who the neighbor ended up being. I still don't think it should be claimed early, though.

Really?  You automatically got suspicious after you got your role pm?  I'm very sure that is a scum claim.

I'm Jin-Soo Kwon and Twisted Archer is Sun-Hwa_Kwon.  There is no reason to be "immediately suspicious" when your role PM said that we are husband and wife.

[Teproc]

Pretty sure that's a mistake. Both the claim and the vote.

[reinoe]

There definitely is upside in claiming neighborhoods TA. It really should have been the first thing done actually, especially if you don't trust your neighbor, which appears to be the case.

To be clear, me not trusting my neighbor has nothing to do with it being reinoe -- I was automatically suspicious as soon as I got my role PM, and would have been regardless of who the neighbor ended up being. I still don't think it should be claimed early, though.

Really?  You automatically got suspicious after you got your role pm?  I'm very sure that is a scum claim.

I'm Jin-Soo Kwon and Twisted Archer is Sun-Hwa_Kwon.  There is no reason to be "immediately suspicious" when your role PM said that we are husband and wife.

VOTE:TWISTEDARCHER

[reinoe]

Pretty sure that's a mistake. Both the claim and the vote.

Yeah, I fucked up the vote.  But We both know who each other is.  We're husband and wife.  There's no reason to think "oh noes it's my husband!  That's super suspicious!".

[Teproc]

Btw reinoe, I'm assuming you didn't mean to hide that vote deep in the quote ?

PPE : I didn't mean the formatting mistake was bad, I meant the vote itself.

[Teproc]

And yes, I can think of at least a reason TA would be suspicious regardless of the PM flavor.

[reinoe]

And yes, I can think of at least a reason TA would be suspicious regardless of the PM flavor.

TwistedArcher is miffed and pissed off because now he can't fake-claim someone else.

I don't trust TA because of his play.  TA claims that he doesn't trust me because he read his role PM.  That doesn't make sense.

[Twistedarcher]

Pretty sure that's a mistake. Both the claim and the vote.

Yeah, I fucked up the vote.  But We both know who each other is.  We're husband and wife.  There's no reason to think "oh noes it's my husband!  That's super suspicious!".

it has nothing to do with the flavor, it has to do with the fact that we're neighbors, not masons.

[reinoe]

Pretty sure that's a mistake. Both the claim and the vote.

Yeah, I fucked up the vote.  But We both know who each other is.  We're husband and wife.  There's no reason to think "oh noes it's my husband!  That's super suspicious!".

it has nothing to do with the flavor, it has to do with the fact that we're neighbors, not masons.

Which also doesn't make sense.  There's no reason to be immediately suspicious of the other person in a two person neighborhood either.

[ashersky]

FYI, you need a space between the : and the play you are voting for, generally, for the voting syntax to be correct.

[ashersky]

I actually like the idea of lynching from a neighborhood, as far as theory goes.

As for reinoe/TA, I could be convinced.

[ashersky]

Also, the L-1 thing is done.  Not enough time.

[ashersky]

Plan update:

All that really matters is tomorrow, I guess.  I suspect I'll be slammed by a few of you for the idea, but it's worth discussing (and doing, in the end), regardless of the risk.

For today, lynch, no-lynch, whatever.  I think it's been a pretty good day 1 so far, and not so crazy long yet.

We should try to do some lynch POE...

1. Teproc
2. Hydrad
3. XerxesPraelor
4. Witherweaver
5. silverspawn
6. Beyond Awesome
7. ashersky
8. Ichimaru Gin
9. xeiron
10. chairs
11. Awaclus
12. 2.71828...
13. xxpittip
14. Twistedarcher
15. A Drowned Kernel
16. reinoe

Strikethroughs are not options for today, bolds are preferred, regular are meh.

XP and xeiron are a pair -- I'd lynch one just so we only have one x-name in the game since I confuse them with each other all the time.
TA and reinoe are a pair -- as you know.
xxpittip is the only player that sticks out as both active and lynchworthy.

[Awaclus]

xxpittip is the only player that sticks out as both active and lynchworthy.

What? He has like 2 posts.

[Awaclus]

I'm also not sure how useful it is to lynch TA or reinoe yet. I think it would be at least interesting to let them use their power for a little longer, and in the best case scenario, it can be pretty powerful if the town player(s) of the neighborhood plays it well. And lynching XP or xeiron because their names start with the same letter is pretty ridiculous too. I'm not convinced by this post.

[silverspawn]

Also, the L-1 thing is done.  Not enough time.

okay, unvote

[reinoe]

TwistedArcher has claimed scum.  Why aren't we lynching obvious scum?

[Twistedarcher]

I hate that I can't join a mafia game on this forum anymore without regretting it.

[2.71828.....]

Went through and reread Ichi to try to keep up a case against him but found his posts to read townie, especially the way he called xp out for casually sheeping me without putting anything solid down.  And WW's point about his motivation about what he said about lurkers coming out of his last game.  I will at least postpone lynching him until D2.

So now for some PoE stuff for me:

I like reinoe's aggressive playstyle, but him being new here that could very well be town or scum.  Speaking of new (to me at least) I don't want to lynch xxpittip

I think TA is town

silverspawn could be town or scum, but everyone already knew that.  Don't favor lynching him

I want to see Ash's plan develop, and to do that we probably need to have him around D2, so I don't like lynching him today.

Awaclus reads townie to me based on reasons.

I always read Teproc as townie for some reason.  No different here.

Hydrad, XP, WW, BA, xeiron, chairs, and ADK all haven't really made that big of an impression on me and I am willing to lynch anyone from that group.