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[Ichimaru Gin]

17 people to L-1 in 6 days? That seems kind of crazy...or are putting everyone but Ash to L-1?

I don't really like this idea. (Hur dur, it's cause I'm scum who is hated).

Really though, this seems very time intensive and would require more coordination than I think we have amongst so many players. I'm opposed I think--especially given the lack of explanation so far. If we are going to do it, I really don't see us being able to put everyone to L-1 all today. Does ash have a particular order he wants us to follow? Regardless, that would probably be a good thing to setup if we're going to try this.

I'm interested by renoe's decision to claim their neighborhood without consulting Twistedarcher; I don't like it.

[Ichimaru Gin]

*reinoe

[Hydrad]

reinoes claim though makes me think hes towny. If he was scum he most likely would of talked to his team about the neighbour hood I think and they most likely would of said to keep it quiet for now? Although I guess his conversations with TA also would of let him know to keep it a bit quiet usually.

Overall though this claim isn't a very game changing one and I don't think it matters to much.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Yeah, you're probably right. I just wonder if TA has more to say about it that we haven't heard yet.

[Twistedarcher]

our neighborhood qt has been very quiet, claiming never came up. i haven't had much to say, i'm automatically suspicious because, well, it's a neighborhood where the other person's alignment is unconfirmed. i still don't see the upside to claiming though. if he's scum it doesn't matter, of he's not then now they know.

[reinoe]

our neighborhood qt has been very quiet, claiming never came up. i haven't had much to say, i'm automatically suspicious because, well, it's a neighborhood where the other person's alignment is unconfirmed.

Really?  Are you sure you don't see any upside to claiming?

""" if he's scum it doesn't matter, of he's not then now they know."""
Clarify this.

[Twistedarcher]

what's the upside?

if you're mafia, mafia already knew there was a neighborhood, so they get no new info. if you're town, they now get new info (cause i know i'm town).

[reinoe]

what's the upside?

if you're mafia, mafia already knew there was a neighborhood, so they get no new info. if you're town, they now get new info (cause i know i'm town).

1) There is no benefit to scum knowing there's a neighborhood if they didn't know there was one already.
2) You could have brought up claiming in the neighborhood.  What stopped you?  You having a hissy fit about the neighborhood revelation is not helping.
3) I don't trust you enough to start sharing secret thoughts with you.  I'll keep my content out in the open for everyone to judge until then. 
4) You are correct in that the neighborhood was relatively quiet.  The first point of anything to note was me asking you your opinion on Asherky's plan and then me sharing my thoughts on it.  You then responded with a single 14 word sentence.

[Teproc]

I don't think we have the same definition of "throwing a hissy fit" ?

Is your neighborhood locked during days ?

[Teproc]

There definitely is upside in claiming neighborhoods TA. It really should have been the first thing done actually, especially if you don't trust your neighbor, which appears to be the case.

[ashersky]

ash does your plan hinge on their being a no-lynch or are you simply trying to minimize the number of kills before you can put it into effect?

It doesn't require a no lynch, but I do think a no lynch would be good.  I don't have math to support it, though.

[ashersky]

There definitely is upside in claiming neighborhoods TA. It really should have been the first thing done actually, especially if you don't trust your neighbor, which appears to be the case.

While there may be upside, I don't think the second part of this is correct.

[ashersky]

17 people to L-1 in 6 days? That seems kind of crazy...or are putting everyone but Ash to L-1?

I don't really like this idea. (Hur dur, it's cause I'm scum who is hated).

Really though, this seems very time intensive and would require more coordination than I think we have amongst so many players. I'm opposed I think--especially given the lack of explanation so far. If we are going to do it, I really don't see us being able to put everyone to L-1 all today. Does ash have a particular order he wants us to follow? Regardless, that would probably be a good thing to setup if we're going to try this.

You can put me to L-1 first, if you want.

No particular order is mind.

I'm happy to continue hearing thoughts on the idea.  Coordinating it would be difficult.

[XerxesPraelor]

I think revealing a 2 person neighborhood should have been done later in the day.

[XerxesPraelor]

I volunteer to be first put to L-1.

[Awaclus]

I'm fine with being put to L-1 as well, and I guess I don't oppose the idea in general.

[XerxesPraelor]

I'm a bad player, so if something bad happens it can happen to me.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I'm a bad player, so if something bad happens it can happen to me.

[XerxesPraelor]

vote: Xerxes

Let's just try it.

[XerxesPraelor]

Can ash say anything about no-lynch besides that he thinks it's a good idea?

[2.71828.....]

How would people feel about purposefully putting each player at L-1 in order?

I don't like it.  We will spend all of our time trying to organize getting people to L-1 and never have a chance to do much else.

[ashersky]

Can ash say anything about no-lynch besides that he thinks it's a good idea?

Well, as mentioned previously, I think we should neutralize twilight powers if possible.  Why?  I think they could do more harm than good.  Here's an example:

Imagine a power that allows you to redirect the lynch.  We spend all day decided as a town who to lynch, then it's moved.  Could be by town who disagree, could be by scum saving a partner, could be by scum causing issues.

I am guessing twilight power orders are done by PM, so we won't know who did what.  That's also bad.

Plus, really, Twilight was a terrible book.

[silverspawn]

Can ash say anything about no-lynch besides that he thinks it's a good idea?

Well, as mentioned previously, I think we should neutralize twilight powers if possible.  Why?  I think they could do more harm than good.  Here's an example:

Imagine a power that allows you to redirect the lynch.  We spend all day decided as a town who to lynch, then it's moved.  Could be by town who disagree, could be by scum saving a partner, could be by scum causing issues.

I am guessing twilight power orders are done by PM, so we won't know who did what.  That's also bad.

Plus, really, Twilight was a terrible book.

I don't understand how no lynching helps in eliminating twilight powers though.

[Awaclus]

Can ash say anything about no-lynch besides that he thinks it's a good idea?

Well, as mentioned previously, I think we should neutralize twilight powers if possible.  Why?  I think they could do more harm than good.  Here's an example:

Imagine a power that allows you to redirect the lynch.  We spend all day decided as a town who to lynch, then it's moved.  Could be by town who disagree, could be by scum saving a partner, could be by scum causing issues.

I am guessing twilight power orders are done by PM, so we won't know who did what.  That's also bad.

Plus, really, Twilight was a terrible book.

I don't understand how no lynching helps in eliminating twilight powers though.

If someone can change the lynch, and there's no lynch, maybe it doesn't work?

[silverspawn]

Can ash say anything about no-lynch besides that he thinks it's a good idea?

Well, as mentioned previously, I think we should neutralize twilight powers if possible.  Why?  I think they could do more harm than good.  Here's an example:

Imagine a power that allows you to redirect the lynch.  We spend all day decided as a town who to lynch, then it's moved.  Could be by town who disagree, could be by scum saving a partner, could be by scum causing issues.

I am guessing twilight power orders are done by PM, so we won't know who did what.  That's also bad.

Plus, really, Twilight was a terrible book.

I don't understand how no lynching helps in eliminating twilight powers though.

If someone can change the lynch, and there's no lynch, maybe it doesn't work?

Making powers fail once ≄ neutralizing them.