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[Ichimaru Gin]

Fluff probably wasn't the best descriptor. I found his post noncommital and somewhat casual.

PPE: ash

[ashersky]

I'm concerned/intrigued by the twilight power mechanic.

I'm guessing stopping and/or redirecting the lynch could be possible.  Town or scum power?  Either, I say.

[ashersky]

I actually have a plan, if anyone cares.

[Teproc]

I'm listening.

[Witherweaver]

Me too.  We should lynch the scum.

[reinoe]

Hi everyone. I don't know lost, like what e was thinking, didn't read the setup, like my alignment, and agree that if IG flips scum, we look at lurkers.

This is fluff isn't it?

VOTE: XERXES

[reinoe]

Fluff probably wasn't the best descriptor. I found his post noncommital and somewhat casual.

PPE: ash

I however, am calling it fluff.

[Teproc]

Huh.

Let's vote: reinoe

[reinoe]

aww I wanted to be scum this game.

oh well

vote: xeiron for discouraging active play.

Xeiron is not entirely wrong.  Sometimes there are indeed too many posts which makes analysis muddy.  This can even be an issue on mafiascum which has an "ISO" feature. 

[Witherweaver]

Hi everyone. I don't know lost, like what e was thinking, didn't read the setup, like my alignment, and agree that if IG flips scum, we look at lurkers.

This is fluff isn't it?

VOTE: XERXES

It is not.

[reinoe]

Hi everyone. I don't know lost, like what e was thinking, didn't read the setup, like my alignment, and agree that if IG flips scum, we look at lurkers.

This is fluff isn't it?

VOTE: XERXES

It is not.

Yeah it is.

1) Who cares he likes his alignment?

2) We should be looking at lurkers regardless of IG's flip.

[Witherweaver]

(1) I do; I don't want Xerxes to have an uhappy game.

(2) Wrong isn't the same as fluff.

[reinoe]

(1) I do; I don't want Xerxes to have an uhappy game.

(2) Wrong isn't the same as fluff.

Do you know if Xerxes prefers playing as anti-town or town?  Otherwise Xerxes having a "happy game" has almost nothing to do with you.

But it is fluffy is he's just making pointless comments.

[Teproc]

Actually, unvote

The mafiascum style gets really interesting when it shows up in here (see : Axxle).

I like it.

[Witherweaver]

(1) I do; I don't want Xerxes to have an uhappy game.

(2) Wrong isn't the same as fluff.

Do you know if Xerxes prefers playing as anti-town or town?  Otherwise Xerxes having a "happy game" has almost nothing to do with you.

But it is fluffy is he's just making pointless comments.

I'm fairly certain he prefers playing town.

[Teproc]

He does prefer to play town yeah. Not that it means anything, it's just WIFOM... which... WW, you didn't like silver's post yet you have no problem with XP's ?

[Witherweaver]

Silver has been playing a lot of WIFOM games lately.. I think he's doing it to make it hard for people to judge his meta.  Which is somewhat working, but it's also a bit annoying.  And antitown.  XPs thing didn't really bother me; I didn't even notice he said that until new guy pointed it out.

[ashersky]

So...we should vote: no lynch today.

I have reasons, some of which I will share tomorrow.

But, well, I want to neutralize the twilight powers, or at least test the waters for them with no one on the chopping block.  We have RMM, which means the focus is on night, generally.  We have the button mechanic (btw, redirects are almost always bad for town as it negates investigative and protective powers).

I also think we should no lynch as soon as possible, as Day 1 is wasted anyway, and Day 2 will basically be Day 1 again with possibly less players.

On Day 2, I can drop a huge bomb that not everyone is going to like me for, but I think is in our best interest.  (I say that because some of you will argue that it's not in town's best interest, but I think the pros outweigh the cons heavily.)

[Teproc]

Ok, so... why do you want to neutralize twilight power(s) ? Statistically speaking, aren't they more likely to be in town's hands ?

[Witherweaver]

Slight town read on Ashersky; this doesn't sound like the way he'd propose a scum plan (even a pro-town scum plan).

[Teproc]

Slight town read on Ashersky; this doesn't sound like the way he'd propose a scum plan (even a pro-town scum plan).

You played in the game where he proposed a great plan for town as scum yes ? How was that different ?

[Witherweaver]

Slight town read on Ashersky; this doesn't sound like the way he'd propose a scum plan (even a pro-town scum plan).

You played in the game where he proposed a great plan for town as scum yes ? How was that different ?

It was much more convincing then "I can do something cool, trust me." 

[Witherweaver]

I mean if he was going to propose this as scum, he'd think that no one would probably go for no lynch unless he laid out a pretty good argument for it.  Unless he was relying on someone making the kind of argument I am, but all that does is give him some town cred and doesn't really further the plan (except to the extent to which we think he's town motivates us to follow his plan).

[xeiron]

I'm concerned/intrigued by the twilight power mechanic.

I'm guessing stopping and/or redirecting the lynch could be possible.  Town or scum power?  Either, I say.

Stopping (Governor) has been done before and could be included here as well. Redirecting sound strong and something I only see as town. Sort of a vigilante variant.

There are probably three-four roles using this mechanic. It would be a waste introducing a new mechanic just for one PR.

[Teproc]

I mean if he was going to propose this as scum, he'd think that no one would probably go for no lynch unless he laid out a pretty good argument for it.  Unless he was relying on someone making the kind of argument I am, but all that does is give him some town cred and doesn't really further the plan (except to the extent to which we think he's town motivates us to follow his plan).

Or on his well-established meta of awesome plans.