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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #125 on: January 05, 2015, 01:54:52 pm »

For Teproc and others who know the setup:
Does it make sense flavorwise for multiple people to be Man-in-Black-aligned?
Or is it most likely a single third-party player.

Both are possible, though I would say third-party is most likely based on the opening flavor, which would seem to suggest The Others are the main bad guys here, not only because they are mentioned, but also because of the timeframe.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #126 on: January 05, 2015, 01:59:10 pm »

To expand on that : I could see the Man-in-Black being a third party that can recruit people for example, that would make a lot of sense.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #127 on: January 05, 2015, 02:01:16 pm »

To expand on that : I could see the Man-in-Black being a third party that can recruit people for example, that would make a lot of sense.
Aren't there no alignment changes in this game?

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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #128 on: January 05, 2015, 02:10:43 pm »

Vote: Awaclus for lynching me in M54
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #129 on: January 05, 2015, 02:13:23 pm »

To expand on that : I could see the Man-in-Black being a third party that can recruit people for example, that would make a lot of sense.
Aren't there no alignment changes in this game?

You're correct, didn't see that.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #130 on: January 05, 2015, 02:16:00 pm »

For Teproc and others who know the setup:
Does it make sense flavorwise for multiple people to be Man-in-Black-aligned?
Or is it most likely a single third-party player.

Both are possible, though I would say third-party is most likely based on the opening flavor, which would seem to suggest The Others are the main bad guys here, not only because they are mentioned, but also because of the timeframe.
Vote Teproc
for knowing the set-up. 
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #131 on: January 05, 2015, 02:18:02 pm »

Am I really the only one ? Never mind silver, you guys are missing something.

reinoe, this is your first game here correct ? Have you played Werewolf/mafia IRL or elsewhere ?
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #132 on: January 05, 2015, 02:29:18 pm »

Vote: Awaclus for lynching me in M54

Vote: Pit for being scummy in M54
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #133 on: January 05, 2015, 02:31:13 pm »

Vote: robz888 for not playing the Lost game.

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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #134 on: January 05, 2015, 02:33:42 pm »

Now that ash is here : thoughts on the "push the button" mechanic ?

It seems obvious to me that having no one pushing it is bad for town, but it's hard to coordinate to make sure someone pushes it without having people softclaim VT (or passive role) so... do we just say that if you have a passive role you should push the button and be done with it ?
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #135 on: January 05, 2015, 02:37:28 pm »

I had written a post about it earlier, but decided to scrap it.

It seems to me that scum has a lot of motivation to push the button, both to ensure their NK goes through and to keep it from being reflected onto them if they hit a PR that targeted them. It seems pretty dangerous for them otherwise.

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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #136 on: January 05, 2015, 02:40:20 pm »

I don't think so. The risk is fairly small for scum, but the reward is huge otheriwse, because chaos in night actions is good for scum, especially in RMM (I assume).

If someone is roleblocked, can they still push the button ?
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #137 on: January 05, 2015, 02:54:45 pm »

If someone is roleblocked, can they still push the button ?

No.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #138 on: January 05, 2015, 03:18:17 pm »

Now that ash is here : thoughts on the "push the button" mechanic ?

It seems obvious to me that having no one pushing it is bad for town, but it's hard to coordinate to make sure someone pushes it without having people softclaim VT (or passive role) so... do we just say that if you have a passive role you should push the button and be done with it ?

If we decides we want the button pushed, I think that is the best way to do it. People with passive roles or weak roles push the button. I do not think we should coordinate it further. At least not today.

But after reading Ichi's post, I am not sure pushing the button is clearly better for town. If scum were to kill themselves that would be a serious blow to them. And chaos with the night actions might get somebody to tell lies that get them caught later when a massclaim untangles some of that chaos.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #139 on: January 05, 2015, 03:32:11 pm »

Hi everyone. I don't know lost, like what e was thinking, didn't read the setup, like my alignment, and agree that if IG flips scum, we look at lurkers.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #140 on: January 05, 2015, 03:39:41 pm »

vote: XP That point made against me by e is terrible...

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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #141 on: January 05, 2015, 03:41:04 pm »

Right, and agreeing with someone who's wrong on something that's basically inconsequential makes you scum why ?
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #142 on: January 05, 2015, 03:47:05 pm »

Am I really the only one ? Never mind silver, you guys are missing something.

reinoe, this is your first game here correct ? Have you played Werewolf/mafia IRL or elsewhere ?
I have played mafia on mafiascum.net.  Can you post what you know about the setup?  I'm clueless.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #143 on: January 05, 2015, 03:49:05 pm »

I don't know anything special about the setup, XP (or whoever it was) misspoke earlier, they meant I "flavor" not setup.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #144 on: January 05, 2015, 04:02:29 pm »

vote: XP That point made against me by e is terrible...

It wasn't terrible; it would be terrible later on in the game, but trying to find something substantial early in the game is good, regardless of how correct it ends up being.. jumps start out of RVS, gets interactions, etc.  Sometimes things like that can turn up correct (Yuma did this to me once when I was scum).   
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #145 on: January 05, 2015, 04:09:37 pm »

vote: XP That point made against me by e is terrible...

It wasn't terrible; it would be terrible later on in the game, but trying to find something substantial early in the game is good, regardless of how correct it ends up being.. jumps start out of RVS, gets interactions, etc.  Sometimes things like that can turn up correct (Yuma did this to me once when I was scum).
I agree that it's good to get out of RVS, but he (XP) is not voting me then is he? No, he's just agreeing with a bad point that e made (which he may or may not have actually meant sincerely) which is mostly fluff. That's what I don't like. Of course, it's not like I am holding people to an unfair expectation of having solid content this early in the game; I just think his post is very noncommital, yet leaning against casting suspicion against me.

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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #146 on: January 05, 2015, 04:14:53 pm »

I don't think e's post was really fluff. 

But to be fair, your comment about lurkers makes a lot of sense in light of our game that just ended, so that's a more believable mindset for you posting that.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #147 on: January 05, 2015, 04:17:48 pm »

I meant XP's post was fluff, not e's. Sorry, may have been unclear pronoun usage there.

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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #148 on: January 05, 2015, 04:21:37 pm »

Oh.  Well on setting up grounds for voting you later, that could be something.  But I wouldn't really call it fluffy.  It was, after all, succinct and complete with opinions on what's happened so far, which isn't really much.  Fluff would be talking a lot about flavor or theory, or using lots of words to say very little.
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Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #149 on: January 05, 2015, 04:38:01 pm »

I'll have a lot more to say about the button tomorrow.
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