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I know there are many more attack cards in the game than these 6 in the poll, but these were some of the more powerful ones, so I thought it'd be interesting to see which among these were the most hated.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2014, 11:47:13 am »
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Not because they are my least favorite ones (besides Cultist), but Witch, Cultist and Amb deserve definitely to be mentioned in this list, imho.

EDIT: Voted for Swindler, because of it's randomness. But if available, I'd go Cultist

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 11:54:33 am »
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Not because they are my least favorite ones (besides Cultist), but Witch, Cultist and Amb deserve definitely to be mentioned in this list, imho.

EDIT: Voted for Swindler, because of it's randomness. But if available, I'd go Cultist

Cultist and Ambassador? Ok I added them
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2014, 11:57:20 am »
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Minion? Like...Minion? How is that not here? Ambassador is but not Minion?
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2014, 11:59:17 am »
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Minion? Like...Minion? How is that not here? Ambassador is but not Minion?

Ok I've added it. I really only put up the ones that came to mind, besides the ones already suggested.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2014, 12:06:01 pm »
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Man, now that Minion is there, I'd like to change my vote.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 12:07:20 pm »
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Scrying Pool is also a card that you might want to add, the attack isn't very powerful but the card is and the attack makes it annoying.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 12:15:35 pm »
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Ghost Ship can make the game drag on for sooooo long.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 12:33:03 pm »
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I voted for Ghost Ship.  It is so frustrating.  On the other hand, in the right kingdom you can devise some really beautiful counters which can turn your opponent's Ghost Ships into a boon.  And that is one of the best feelings in the game.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 12:59:59 pm »
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Mountebank and Witch are missing. I can't really explain why, but I find Witch way more painful than Sea Hag.
Familiar is also very frustrating, for the opening randomness…

Otherwise, Minion.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 01:40:12 pm »
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I think Cultist and Swindler are the most swingy attacks. Someone getting a 5/2 with Cultist usually means game over. Many times I have lost the ruins split 8/2 when an opponent opened Cultist. And, we all know how Swindler is swingy.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 02:12:24 pm »
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I went for swindler as it can be really hard to create a plan against swindler. You have to make more decisions based on the current game state instead and this removes something from Dominion that I like. The Goko bots play swindler quite well (compared to some of their other play) because only ever look at the current game state, and it isn't just them getting lucky.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 02:14:49 pm »
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Ghost Ship.

Not only is it annoying to be attacked with it is the least satisfying card to attack your opponent with. Compared to forming a good Minion deck or a Torturer-village deck or getting your Ambassador rolling or any cursing card. I think all of those are much more satisfying from the attacking point of view than Ghost Ship.  Ghost Ship is just plain boring mean and like TA said it just drags the game out. And at least Militia keeps the game moving forward on a bit more. I agree that finding a counter to it is fun but that doesn't make up for the negativity around
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2014, 02:19:17 pm »
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Cultist! Because even when you both go for it, you're more likely to split the Ruins 7-3 than 5-5 (or at least it seems like that).
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2014, 02:24:43 pm »
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Surprisingly, I'm fine with all of these.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 02:27:30 pm »
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Scrying Pool is also a card that you might want to add, the attack isn't very powerful but the card is and the attack makes it annoying.

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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2014, 02:57:26 pm »
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The reason I voted for Ghost Ship is the bonus.  If there are no villages then good luck ever having a hand of more then 5 cards for the rest of the game.  I would like GS a whole lot more if it had another bonus like +1 action, +$1.  This would allow you to attack each turn but still play another terminal in the absence of villages.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2014, 03:03:18 pm »
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Most of these I can easily brush off the power of the attack as it does right what is says on the card and I don't get much if any choice about it.  Torturer on the other hand is so frustrating to choose a mode and have to anticipate whether or not they're going to play another one. Unnecessarily punishing myself feels bad man.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2014, 03:03:30 pm »
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Familiar should be in there, I would have voted for it, no question.

Ghost Ship is annoying, sure, but there are ways to fight it and at least you have to build an engine for it to be really good. Knights, though... I hate Knights game. Hate them.

Why do people find Minion annoying ? Once they get 4-5 of them, just don't look at your opening hand.
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 03:21:26 pm »
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I am very surprised with all the Ghost Ship hate. It is not that strong of an attack, nor is it really at that swingy.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 03:26:02 pm »
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I am very surprised with all the Ghost Ship hate. It is not that strong of an attack, nor is it really at that swingy.

exactly. It just isn't fun to attack with or be attacked by. It is just plain, boring mean. Either it isn't that important or it makes the game last 3x longer than if it wasn't around. I have no problem with cards that increase swing.
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2014, 04:23:52 pm »
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I am very surprised with all the Ghost Ship hate. It is not that strong of an attack, nor is it really at that swingy.

exactly. It just isn't fun to attack with or be attacked by. It is just plain, boring mean. Either it isn't that important or it makes the game last 3x longer than if it wasn't around. I have no problem with cards that increase swing.

I completely agree with yuma.  This poll is not about what is the best attack here, but which one do you really not like.  Ghost ship has the potential to make really slow, boring games.  Which are not fun.  Which is why it is my least favorite of these cards
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2014, 04:47:57 pm »
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What makes Ghost Ship okay for me is that you have control over it. Yes, it's not fun to be Ghost Shipped to death, but the guy had to build an engine to make that happen, which gave you time to do other stuff to make your deck resilient to it (or build your own Ghost Ship Engine). What's frustrating to me about cards like Familiar and Swindler is that they are swingy in ways you have very little control over.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2014, 04:52:34 pm »
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The thing about Ghost Ship is that it slows the game down.  Dramatically so, going BM against GS requires oodles of Gold.  Engines require specific counters or just really strong engines to overcome the top-decking. 

It's annoying, but not for reasons outside of player control.  Things that are swingy like Swindler, Cultist and Sea Hag are so much worse as the game can change completely due to luck.
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2014, 05:14:33 pm »
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The thing about Ghost Ship is that it slows the game down.  Dramatically so, going BM against GS requires oodles of Gold.  Engines require specific counters or just really strong engines to overcome the top-decking. 

It's annoying, but not for reasons outside of player control.  Things that are swingy like Swindler, Cultist and Sea Hag are so much worse as the game can change completely due to luck.

I can understand that, particularly in competitive play.  But I don't play competitively.  For me Ghost Ship is more annoying precisely because I do have some control.  Sea Hag, Swindler etc. are more or less out of my control.  But with Ghost Ship, I have that decision to make of which cards to put back.  Do I make the best out of a three card hand, or do I gamble on putting back my best cards and hope for better luck next hand?  It is a more grueling decision for me than Torturer usually is, and it doesn't end like Torturer does when the Curses run out.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2014, 06:16:43 pm »
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Surprisingly, I'm fine with all of these.
Unsurprisingly, if you have all of these, your opponent's not going to be fine.
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2014, 07:06:38 pm »
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Why do people find Minion annoying ? Once they get 4-5 of them, just don't look at your opening hand.
The thing is, Minion hurts approximately as much as Militia. It's like discarding randomly one card from your hand. The attack of militia is sometimes painful but it's not easy to play a militia every turn. Minion is worse because you can easily play it every turn, it slows the game down, and it's a boring automatic strategy.
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2014, 07:17:55 pm »
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Surprisingly, I'm fine with all of these.
Unsurprisingly, if you have all of these, your opponent's not going to be fine.

I guess if you have all 11 of these, maybe you found a village in the black market too? If not, your opponent is probably draining the Province pile while you try to play all of these.
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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2014, 07:31:22 pm »
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If I could vote for one inidividually, I'd vote for Sir Michael (which I replaced with a fan-made knight card for when I play IRL). The Knights' attack is nasty enough and Sir Michael adds another attack on top of it instead of doing something for its player.

Ended up voting for Sea hag though. Knights are interesting with each one being different, but Sea hag is annoying to get hit by and annoying to play because it doesn't do anything for the person playing it. I probably would've voted for Familiar if it was on the list (Familiar really should be up there). For the same reason as Sea hag except worse.
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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2014, 10:13:45 pm »
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If I could vote for one inidividually, I'd vote for Sir Michael (which I replaced with a fan-made knight card for when I play IRL). The Knights' attack is nasty enough and Sir Michael adds another attack on top of it instead of doing something for its player.

Ended up voting for Sea hag though. Knights are interesting with each one being different, but Sea hag is annoying to get hit by and annoying to play because it doesn't do anything for the person playing it. I probably would've voted for Familiar if it was on the list (Familiar really should be up there). For the same reason as Sea hag except worse.
I have nothing against any of the others on the list, but I also hate Saboteur (you can guess why).

Saboteur is bad though. Sure it can be annoying, but 90% of the time it's just bad. Also, Sir Micheal only seems OP, but he's not. Again, his down side is being terminal that doesn't help you this turn.
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2014, 11:26:18 pm »
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If I could vote for one inidividually, I'd vote for Sir Michael (which I replaced with a fan-made knight card for when I play IRL). The Knights' attack is nasty enough and Sir Michael adds another attack on top of it instead of doing something for its player.

Ended up voting for Sea hag though. Knights are interesting with each one being different, but Sea hag is annoying to get hit by and annoying to play because it doesn't do anything for the person playing it. I probably would've voted for Familiar if it was on the list (Familiar really should be up there). For the same reason as Sea hag except worse.
I have nothing against any of the others on the list, but I also hate Saboteur (you can guess why).

Saboteur is bad though. Sure it can be annoying, but 90% of the time it's just bad. Also, Sir Micheal only seems OP, but he's not. Again, his down side is being terminal that doesn't help you this turn.

Exactly, Saboteur is bad for everyone. That's why I hate it. Bad for the player playing it, bad for the person getting hit by it. I didn't say Sir Michael was overpowered, I just said I hate that card. Two nasty attacks on one card is bad. It's bad for the person playing it and bad for the person getting hit. Those are the attack cards I hate most.

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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2014, 11:40:33 pm »
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If I could vote for one inidividually, I'd vote for Sir Michael (which I replaced with a fan-made knight card for when I play IRL). The Knights' attack is nasty enough and Sir Michael adds another attack on top of it instead of doing something for its player.

Ended up voting for Sea hag though. Knights are interesting with each one being different, but Sea hag is annoying to get hit by and annoying to play because it doesn't do anything for the person playing it. I probably would've voted for Familiar if it was on the list (Familiar really should be up there). For the same reason as Sea hag except worse.
I have nothing against any of the others on the list, but I also hate Saboteur (you can guess why).

Saboteur is bad though. Sure it can be annoying, but 90% of the time it's just bad. Also, Sir Micheal only seems OP, but he's not. Again, his down side is being terminal that doesn't help you this turn.

Exactly, Saboteur is bad for everyone. That's why I hate it. Bad for the player playing it, bad for the person getting hit by it. I didn't say Sir Michael was overpowered, I just said I hate that card. Two nasty attacks on one card is bad. It's bad for the person playing it and bad for the person getting hit. Those are the attack cards I hate most.

What I meant was Saboteur is weak. It's usually bad for the person playing it, but not to bad for the person being attacked.
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2014, 01:48:53 am »
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If I could vote for one inidividually, I'd vote for Sir Michael (which I replaced with a fan-made knight card for when I play IRL). The Knights' attack is nasty enough and Sir Michael adds another attack on top of it instead of doing something for its player.

Ended up voting for Sea hag though. Knights are interesting with each one being different, but Sea hag is annoying to get hit by and annoying to play because it doesn't do anything for the person playing it. I probably would've voted for Familiar if it was on the list (Familiar really should be up there). For the same reason as Sea hag except worse.
I have nothing against any of the others on the list, but I also hate Saboteur (you can guess why).

Saboteur is bad though. Sure it can be annoying, but 90% of the time it's just bad. Also, Sir Micheal only seems OP, but he's not. Again, his down side is being terminal that doesn't help you this turn.

Exactly, Saboteur is bad for everyone. That's why I hate it. Bad for the player playing it, bad for the person getting hit by it. I didn't say Sir Michael was overpowered, I just said I hate that card. Two nasty attacks on one card is bad. It's bad for the person playing it and bad for the person getting hit. Those are the attack cards I hate most.

What I meant was Saboteur is weak. It's usually bad for the person playing it, but not to bad for the person being attacked.
If people are only using it when it's good, it's similar to Sea Hag.  There are boards where it is good, boards where it is dominating, even.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2014, 02:53:46 am »
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Minion is about halfway between Pillage (discard your best card) and Urchin (discard your worst card), but it also ruins setups. I don't think either Minion without the attack or a terminal silver with Minion's attack (for $4?) would be easily ignored cards.

Intrigue is such a nasty set, just in terms of psychology. Torturer is aptly named. Saboteur is a weak card but not because it doesn't hurt. Minion ruins all of your best laid plans even if it helps you sometimes. Swindler's "trash a copper, gain a curse" actually feels harsher than just gaining the curse because at that stage of the game coppers are still seen as useful, and the general randomness.

I voted Ghost Ship though, because it's about as bad as Torturer as far as forcing you into a tough decision, it noticeably slows you down and Militia is already a pretty heavy effect.

I was thinking in terms of what I least like being hit by though; Goons is my least favourite because I just wish the attack wasn't there. At least Minion has symmetry.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2014, 03:50:54 am »
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Cultist, definitely. Having 8-9 ruins in your deck by turn 9 (which happens often enough if your opponent has 5/2 opening) sucks out any kind of fun from the game.

Laboratory is strong 5$ card from base set. Witch is even stronger. Combination of pseudo-Lab and pseudo-Wicth, with added on-trash benefit, is way too overpowered, IMO.

Torturer is close second (way too stackable with village support), while Ambassador is 3rd.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2014, 04:12:04 am »
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I like all of these cards.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2014, 04:28:48 am »
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It's either Torturer or Ghost Ship, as those are the two cards that can almost shut you down.

Margrave doesn't come into it: sometimes it even helps you to progress.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2014, 06:47:41 am »
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Ghost ship for me.  It's not powerful, it's just boring and slow and dull to counter.  I've rarely had a game with it that was lively and interesting and didn't involve ignoring it entirely.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2014, 07:43:24 am »
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I saw Scrying Pool on the list and voted for that without even looking at the other answers, as it's by far my most disliked card solely because the attack makes turns take forever. I swear that card made me ragequit this whole game (for a few months, anyway!)

Apart from that probably Swindler because of its swinginess, and Cultist and Familiar because of how screwed you are if your opponent gets lucky and you don't. All the rest are fine IMO.
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« Reply #39 on: March 29, 2014, 10:43:44 am »
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Margrave doesn't come into it: sometimes it even helps you to progress.

Dude, Library is such an awesome counter to Margrave it's not even funny sometimes
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2014, 02:43:44 pm »
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Margrave doesn't come into it: sometimes it even helps you to progress.

Dude, Library is such an awesome counter to Margrave it's not even funny sometimes
I disagree.  I think it's such an awesome counter to Margrave it's not even funny ever at all even one time.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2014, 03:32:49 pm »
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I voted for margrave because discarding 3 cards feels a lot worse than discarding 2, even though the attack is not even as powerful as militia.
I also don't like it because of its vanilla bonuses; 3 cards and a buy is already really good for an engine, which just means I am going to get hit lots of times, and each time I am hit I will have to tediously draw and discard 1 card a bunch more times.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2014, 03:36:45 pm »
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Margrave doesn't come into it: sometimes it even helps you to progress.

Dude, Library is such an awesome counter to Margrave it's not even funny sometimes
I disagree.  I think it's such an awesome counter to Margrave it's not even funny ever at all even one time.
I disagree. I think it's such an awesome counter to Margrave it's always extremely funny!
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2014, 06:23:28 pm »
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I voted for margrave because discarding 3 cards feels a lot worse than discarding 2, even though the attack is not even as powerful as militia.
I also don't like it because of its vanilla bonuses; 3 cards and a buy is already really good for an engine, which just means I am going to get hit lots of times, and each time I am hit I will have to tediously draw and discard 1 card a bunch more times.
I don't think the attack feels very painful. The thing I dislike is that it strongly encourages mirror matches, because a) well, it's just good and b) your opponent's Margraves help you match up Village+Margrave, which as likely as not is the only good thing you can do with 3-card hands.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2014, 10:51:22 pm »
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My vote definitely goes to Ambassador.

Nowadays engines are possible on about 70-90% of the boards.
When Ambassador meats an engine with villages the game goes on for like 20 turns and then one person just gets overrolled by junk cards. Yes in those games the player who knows how to play Ambassador correctly will nearly always beat the player who is not that experienced with it, so you might say the card makes the game more skill dependant than luck dependant and with that less swingy, but if both players know how to play with Ambassador it usually comes down to luck. So this card combines slowing down the game immensely and being swingy at the same time.

Ambassador games are very rarely interesting and like never fun.
I recently played an interesting Ambassador game with Monsieur X, but it certainly was not a fun one.
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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2014, 06:51:33 pm »
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I'm going to jump on the Ghost Ship bandwagon. Discard attacks just hurt more than trashing or cursing, maybe because other attacks are more out-of-sight, out-of-mind, and Ghost Ship is worst because I get to see those bad cards again and again.

My answer might have been Scrying Pool a little while ago because of how long the turns took, but then I started drawing ten cards at a time with it....
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2014, 08:33:19 pm »
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I'm going to jump on the Ghost Ship bandwagon. Discard attacks just hurt more than trashing or cursing, maybe because other attacks are more out-of-sight, out-of-mind, and Ghost Ship is worst because I get to see those bad cards again and again.

My answer might have been Scrying Pool a little while ago because of how long the turns took, but then I started drawing ten cards at a time with it....

I can understand Ghost Ship. My vote is for sure Minion, also because it's stronger than Ghost Ship, which doesn't really hurt a good engine.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2014, 11:18:17 pm »
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I'm going to jump on the Ghost Ship bandwagon. Discard attacks just hurt more than trashing or cursing, maybe because other attacks are more out-of-sight, out-of-mind, and Ghost Ship is worst because I get to see those bad cards again and again.

My answer might have been Scrying Pool a little while ago because of how long the turns took, but then I started drawing ten cards at a time with it....

I can understand Ghost Ship. My vote is for sure Minion, also because it's stronger than Ghost Ship, which doesn't really hurt a good engine.
If you have already built the engine when your opponent goes for Ghost Ship, sure.
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2014, 03:34:08 am »
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I'm fine with Ghost Ship, but I really don't like Sea Hag. First, it doesn't help your deck, second it's a strong attack and third, it can even skip opponent's sea hag, which basically mean 6-4 or 7-3 split due to luck. Swindler also has lots of potential to be annoying, but at least, it's a terminal silver. So if you're devastating your opponent's deck, the game won't take forever... and later on, swindling a curse or a province can really mean game over. So at some point, one should be careful about it.
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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2014, 05:44:26 am »
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I like them all! They are my favorite cards! What do I do??
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Re: Which of these more powerful attack cards is your LEAST favorite?
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2014, 06:07:23 am »
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I've started to really hate Mercenary lately. One of the players might get it early and the other might not, even if they mirror each other's plays, and that makes a devastating difference. Then, getting hit by a Mercenary when you have yours in hand is awful, you either have to take the risk of not drawing a junk card with your village or drawing dead Actions with your Mercenary. It creates so many situations where shuffle luck can screw up someone's game that it's not even fun.
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