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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #325 on: March 11, 2014, 05:48:59 pm »

I won't bid for the point.

If you're tweaking the proposal, I would like to see it make it clear that the treasure chest is consumed and removed from the board once someone opens it.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #326 on: March 11, 2014, 05:54:32 pm »

$15 for you to move to me and I will use my proximity action on you if you give me just $5 back when it's my turn.

Oh yeah, you're also in my range, I'm bad at counting apparently.  Okay, so far this is better than Grujah's offer, since it's the same net money for me, but more points.

If you're tweaking the proposal, I would like to see it make it clear that the treasure chest is consumed and removed from the board once someone opens it.

Good call.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #327 on: March 11, 2014, 06:37:23 pm »

Whoops, sorry guys.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #328 on: March 11, 2014, 07:51:23 pm »

Whoops, sorry guys.

It's ok, I hope you're well!
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #329 on: March 11, 2014, 10:41:59 pm »

If you're tweaking the proposal, I would like to see it make it clear that the treasure chest is consumed and removed from the board once someone opens it.
Good point. :)

And I think the current proposal is good. Sorry for not implementing it in the first place.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #330 on: March 12, 2014, 12:28:19 am »

Give N$20 to scott_pilgrim

I've already given you N$20.  Gimme the point.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #331 on: March 12, 2014, 01:01:20 am »

If you're tweaking the proposal, I would like to see it make it clear that the treasure chest is consumed and removed from the board once someone opens it.
Good point. :)

And I think the current proposal is good. Sorry for not implementing it in the first place.

No problem, it happens.  Fortunately no one spawned a treasure chest between our turns, so there's nothing messy to fix with that.

Give N$20 to scott_pilgrim

I've already given you N$20.  Gimme the point.

If someone makes a better offer I will just refund you the N$20, but thanks anyway.


So I'll change the last part to:
When the chest is created, the current player rolls 1d200. When a unit enters a location with a chest, the result is added to the player owning that unit's amount of Nomic dollars, and the chest disappears.


If no one objects I will probably do a final proposal tomorrow.  I can do my actions at any point during my turn, right?  So I can leave the bidding open on the point while the voting is going on for my proposal?
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #332 on: March 12, 2014, 03:57:34 am »

Yes, but if you do that, we all together conspire together to vote Yes, and immediately end your turn ;)
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #333 on: March 12, 2014, 06:26:08 am »

10$ in addition to whatever lio gives you, to go to lio.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #334 on: March 12, 2014, 02:26:22 pm »

All right, lio/Grujah's offer looks like the best.

Give N$20 to sudgy
Move H8 to I9
Move I9 to J10
Move J10 to K11
Proximity between K11 and L12

I'll post the final proposal in a minute.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #335 on: March 12, 2014, 02:29:03 pm »

Final Proposal 356

Amend Rule 355 to the following:
Once per turn, the current player may spend 1 IP to spawn a treasure chest in any empty location. He does this by posting Treasure chest at ## where ## is the name of the tile where the treasure chest is spawned. This tile cannot be entered by any unit until the end of the turn. Also, units cannot be created on locations with treasure chests or move to locations with treasure chests on the turn they are created. The previous two sentences overrule any rule allowing for such movement or creation.

When the chest is created, the current player rolls 1d200. When a unit enters a location with a chest, the result is added to the player owning that unit's amount of Nomic dollars, and the chest disappears.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #336 on: March 12, 2014, 02:47:37 pm »

Yes on Rule 356
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #337 on: March 12, 2014, 03:27:21 pm »

Vote: Yes on 356
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #338 on: March 12, 2014, 03:34:27 pm »

Give N$10 to scott_pilgrim
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #339 on: March 12, 2014, 04:15:26 pm »

Vote: Yes on Rule 356
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #340 on: March 12, 2014, 04:44:25 pm »

Vote: yes on 356
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #341 on: March 12, 2014, 06:44:21 pm »

Vote: Yes on Rule 356
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #342 on: March 12, 2014, 07:39:09 pm »

Vote: Yes on Rule 356

Give N$15 to scott_pilgrim

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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): scott_pilgrim's turn
« Reply #343 on: March 12, 2014, 08:01:54 pm »

That's 7-0, assuming scott_pilgrim votes for his own proposal, which is enough to pass it. Mail-Mi's turn.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #344 on: March 12, 2014, 09:05:21 pm »

That's 7-0, assuming scott_pilgrim votes for his own proposal, which is enough to pass it. Mail-Mi's turn.

Players always vote "Yes" on their own proposal unless they explicitly say otherwise, fyi.

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The player proposing the rule will by default vote yes unless they say otherwise.

I've updated everything (OP, tracking sheet).
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #345 on: March 12, 2014, 11:31:52 pm »

create: E8

Any thoughts on what I should do? I'm thinking along the lines of attacking other pieces.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #346 on: March 13, 2014, 12:27:39 am »

Hmm... Interesting idea. But it might be hard to make it viable though. I assume that you mean something like "You may spend IP(s) to attack other player(s) 'close to you' which lose some amount of hit point. If their hit points is 0 or less, the unit is removed from the board"?

Currently it is very cheap to make a new unit, and starting to attack someone will probably have serious diplomatic consequences. Somehow you want to balance that, which is quite hard. But I think it's a good idea if executed well. Could you give some more details of your idea?

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I had an idea of something which I consider to be a nice new rule: you can spend money to gain additional IPs on your turn (or maybe also on others' turns). For example, the first extra IP could cost N$30, the second N$60, the third N$90 and so on.
Just wanted to say it, maybe someone doesn't have an idea for a new rule but likes this one, or perhaps I'm going to propose it myself on my next turn.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #347 on: March 13, 2014, 12:31:24 am »

Voltaire I think I should have N$1015 after paying N$10 for my unit.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #348 on: March 13, 2014, 12:45:21 am »

Voltaire I think I should have N$1015 after paying N$10 for my unit.

Thanks for being honest, I'd forgotten to charge you for it.
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Re: f.ds Nomic 1 (Thread 3): mail-mi's turn
« Reply #349 on: March 13, 2014, 10:29:58 am »

create: E8

Any thoughts on what I should do? I'm thinking along the lines of attacking other pieces.

How about a mechanism for getting the bidding for proximity out of the thread?
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