This is a nonsensical point as I could write the same thing with "Smithy" instead of "Conspirator".For example a Kingdom with Village, Market, Workshop, a trasher and Conspirator behaves very differently without Conspirator.
And how often does a kingdom with Village, Market, Workshop, a trasher and Conspirator come up again?
The point is that you can remove Conspirator from any kingdom where it's present and the kingdom will play out largely the same,I disagree.
That's like saying that Smithy without a village in an engine is like a dead card (hey, Conspirator is at least a terminal Silver!). There is always a risk of failing to match engine components.I continue to be shocked at how underrated Conspirator is. It's a key card on the vast majority of boards.
Without the stuff that's above it, it's just a $4 Duchess.
I also don't get the Comspirator hype. It's just decent payload. Sure it's cool that it can be sort of a cheap double Peddler or whatever, but this isn't remotely gamebreaking. Throne Room is a Village and payload multiplier and so much more all in one card.Nobody is arguing that Conspirator is overpowered or whatever. But to see it below Mining Village, a weak village plus one-shot, is pretty weird as Conspirator is, after Grand Market, the best payload in an engine after Grand Market.
I continue to be shocked at how underrated Conspirator is. It's a key card on the vast majority of boards.True that, a $7 card for $4 is pretty sweet.
I think that this is far too weak. At best you only play other virtual money, one Culprit and no Treasures. If you even have one Copper in hand, this is weaker than Sacred Groove (which is arguably just a more expensive Bridge).
I've gone simple. You generally lose the best card in your hand so that $4 isn't as big as it looks, so build the deck to support it well. It can be interesting for you to use and sometimes for them to choose the guilty party carefully, but...it may lose out on innovation.
I totally disagree. Due to the unconditional self-gaining this would be a very powerful $4, perhaps even stronger than Port.Merchant Village
cost $3 - Action
+1 Card
+1 Action
+1 Buy
You may play a Merchant Village from your hand.
Gain a Merchant Village.
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There are 20 copies of Merchant Village, rather than the usual 10.
This completely outclasses Market Square when there are no trashers.
Beyond that, I’d say it outclasses Village and maybe Worker's Village as well. With the self gaining, it should be very common for them to collide multiple times per turn.
Fmm... this is a Village only when two collide. In 20-card deck, how reliable? This is not worth $4. Enormous Buys aren't so great.
This looks slightly weaker than Treasure Hunter and I don't think that Treasure Hunter as a Kingdom card could cost more than $3.QuoteMiddleman • $3 • Action - Reaction
+1 Action
Gain a Silver
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When another player gains a card costing $4 or more, you may reveal this and set it aside. At the end of their turn discard this, then for each card they gained during their turn, gain a Silver.
this might be underpriced.
Pennymonger
Cost: $4
Type: Action
+2 Cards
+1 Action
Gain a Copper.
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When you gain this, you may put it into your hand or onto your deck (instead of to your discard pile).
the ability to choose which two of three to use makes it a bit more powerful than Golem imo; can probably price at 6 or 7 as written, or change to just do two Action cards for $5.Hardly. Trashers are indeed a problem for late game Golem but otherwise you obviously prefer an immediate instead of a semi-delayed Golem. Three (OK, that's not preice: you discard one of them at the start of your next turn so you can draw into it) Actions being out of your deck for one turn is a significant downside. We know this stuff from Throning Durations as well as Duration Thrones like Ghost.
Given that you gain on average 4 Provinces in 2P and 3P, I think that this can get away with costing $6 (and perhaps even without any cost restrictions, even if it arguably becomes crazy in Prince and Possession games).
Not sure if this counts. It can only gain one name of card per game (barring the edge case of Knights/Split Piles), but which card that is is decided per player and when you buy Campaign.
Version History:
v1.0: Original version.
v1.1: Changed type from Project to Event.
in my brain, it falls into the same flavor of dilemma as not buying the second-to-last province if you aren't 98% sure you're ahead; in Mason's Lodge's case, late game, if you're not the Lodgeplayer, you spend your cash on one large buy rather than a couple smaller buys.This is a dubious argument as Bridge variants can lead to megaturns and piling out. The Coffers then arrive one turn too late.
I find it hard to imagine a situation in which forsaking the buying of a card which is reduced in price is worth not gifting a Coffers to the opponent. Market Square plus Highway is better than Baker.I'm last minute changing my entry - withdrawing Executioner, entering Mason's Lodge:Bridge for everybody is a very cool idea. I first thought that getting some Coffers does not make up for the lack of the -1 Coin token attack (of Bridge Troll, the benchmark) and the powerful gift of a Highway plus a Market Square for the other players but after running through some simple examples, the card looks similar in strength to Bridge Troll. But only in multiplayer:QuoteMason's Lodge • $5 • Action - Duration
+1 Buy
Until the end of your next turn, cards cost $1 less (to a minimum of $0) for all players, and all players get +1 Buy at the start of their turn.
Whenever a player gains a card after their first, you get +1 Coffers.
(also, to head off the #1 criticism of "why would i buy/play that", you get two turns of +Buy/Cost Reduction to everyone elses one turn of it, your second turn after you have a big ol' pile of coffers from everyone else taking advantage of your group price reduction)
If Bob and Clementine each buy 3 cards such that Alice gets 4 Coffers, the cost reduction amounts to the equivalent of 3 Coins for each opponent. So relative to Bridge Troll that's a difference of +4 Coins for each opponents (relative to the Bridge Troll benchmark the which implies that the -1 Coin token attack has to be considered) and +4 Coffers for you.
If they buy 2 Cards, it is +3 Coins vs +2 Coffers.
Seems decent for Alice.
In a 2P game it is different though. Here Bob buying 3 Cards is +4 Coins vs. +2 Coffers and him buying 2 Cards is +3 Coins vs. +1 Coffers. That's too good for Bob.
So I'd try out a version that gifts a Coffers on the very first buy but only for one opponent.
i mean, players can elect not to use the extra buy in an effort to stifle the coffers bonus.
I'm last minute changing my entry - withdrawing Executioner, entering Mason's Lodge:Bridge for everybody is a very cool idea. I first thought that getting some Coffers does not make up for the lack of the -1 Coin token attack (of Bridge Troll, the benchmark) and the powerful gift of a Highway plus a Market Square for the other players but after running through some simple examples, the card looks similar in strength to Bridge Troll. But only in multiplayer:QuoteMason's Lodge • $5 • Action - Duration
+1 Buy
Until the end of your next turn, cards cost $1 less (to a minimum of $0) for all players, and all players get +1 Buy at the start of their turn.
Whenever a player gains a card after their first, you get +1 Coffers.
(also, to head off the #1 criticism of "why would i buy/play that", you get two turns of +Buy/Cost Reduction to everyone elses one turn of it, your second turn after you have a big ol' pile of coffers from everyone else taking advantage of your group price reduction)
For this week's contest, I decided to make a Plan variant with the twist that you get the benefit not just on your buys but on anybody's gains.My hunch is that this is too good and that it might have to cost $5. As it stands, putting the token on the village pile is a more or less guaranteed 10 Coffers.QuotePrepare
Move your Prepare token to a kingdom supply pile. (When any player (including you) gains a card from that pile, +1 Coffers.)
Event
$4
There is a significant mechanical difference between Curse tokens that stack and make the buying of cards progressively worse and a singular block token which moves among piles.
Right now I'm thinking of very few ideas that any play group of any size can use. Maybe I set myself too difficult a challenge here. So here's a card I've posted on the forum already but not in this exact form (terminal at $3), getting supply pile blocking to work using a State. No State does this yet but if Targeted isn't a State what is it? Exchanged cards (vampire) would leave the pile and be trashed, and returned cards (encampment) enter it and would be trashed. Maybe too much wonkiness but I'm trying for simple cleanness.
And I'll say it again, if you want a fresh idea I will comply.
Considering how rare it is for a card to enter or leave a supply pile other then when that card is gained; it seems like it would make more sense just to have it be when -gain.
This feels too much like a less-fun version of Embargo.
Captain/Acting Troupe. Why yes, I will go for this neverending source of Villagers.Necromancer / Acting Troupe is also neat. You could be stuck in the "bad equilibrium", i.e. nobody buys Acting Troupe, but if there is demand for Villagers it is more likely that somebody will go for it (similar to Forager games where whoever has more Foragers might "sacrifice" a Silver).
This is a cool idea, except for the second option. At best, ignoring Platinum, Fortune and $5 Treasures which are situationally better than Gold, this is a terminal Gold for $5 which is not impressive. And this is conditional upon you actually having a Gold in your hand.QuoteExecutioner • Action • $5
The player to your left chooses one of the following for you to do:
Play an action card from your hand twice; or
Play a treasure card from your hand twice; or
Gain a card costing up to $4 and if it is an Action or Treasure, play it immediately.
