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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 31, 2015, 08:01:07 pm »
What's so bad about L-1? Do you really think someone's going to derphammer?
What's so good about L-1? And yes, i think that could happen (i derphammered someone myself in M54) or someone could lynch him on purpose because that person is somehow convinced that it's a good decision.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:44:12 pm »
unvote

The Archetype case is quite convincing for a day1 case (especially since it's made by the IC) but i don't want to put him at L-1 just yet. I still think most of his arguments regarding Teprocs claim being scummy / anti-town are true and there's still enough time left until we have to make our final decision.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 29, 2015, 09:58:20 am »
I'm not sure about ADK trying too hard. This is pretty much the same thing as someone asking you something that they could just as well google and the existence of lmgtfy.com (let me google that for you) proves that this happens quite often.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 28, 2015, 01:02:53 am »
Pit, if your vote wasn't serious, why are you keeping it there?
Why should i change it? If he would be at L-1 for some reason that i don't agree with or if i find someone scummy enough to vote for him i will change my vote, but for now it's just fine.

This.

I disagree. I don't think your vote should ever be on anyone if you don't mean it, it just makes the game harder to read. Right now I'm really at one vote, but it looks like I'm at two. If I get wagonned, I might getto L-2 at a point when I'd really be at L-3.

What's the upside in leaving your vote exactly ? Well I know it's not yours but you seem to agree with pit.

I do mean my vote. It was just random at first, but you are my "#1 scum-read" right now (even if it still is a weak read) and i think the vote is a good way of indicating that to the other players. What i meant was that i wouldn't want you to be lynched right now, beacuse 1. My read isn't strong enough right now to justify lynching you and 2. the day has just started and not too much happend so far (-> we would start day2 with almost no information if we lynch you right now).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 27, 2015, 06:34:40 pm »
Pit, if your vote wasn't serious, why are you keeping it there?
Why should i change it? If he would be at L-1 for some reason that i don't agree with or if i find someone scummy enough to vote for him i will change my vote, but for now it's just fine.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 27, 2015, 10:52:16 am »
Yeah I'll Vote: Teproc as the power itself does not seem to have much Town utility and the only reason to claim it seems to be so that he can say he has a power.

So... what would you have done ? Not claim and never use the power ?  Because using the power = claiming, since I have to type the orders in thread.
I would have treated it as a Governor and not claimed it until I wanted to use it. Claiming it now reads like an attempt to gain towncred.

Vote: Archetype

Isn't it good for townies to gain towncred?
It's about as good (propably worse) than for scum to gain towncred.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 27, 2015, 10:41:31 am »
vote: pit if he's being serious about voting for teproc. I don't think that a) scum has that power and b) scum claims that power right away if they have it.

I'm not sure how Teproc effectively uses his power, though. In theory, a larger lynch is good, because it gives us more information (I think), but most likely it just means whoever he uses it on doesn't get lynched.
My vote wasn't serious... I just chose a random "reason" to  vote for someone and my second post wasn't meant to imply we should get rid of him and his power, only to give an approximation of the usefulness of it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 27, 2015, 09:59:30 am »
Alright.

I'm a Town Protector

During the day, I can type protect : CalignoBot (or whomever) and that player becomes loved, meaning you'd need one more vote to lynch them. It's like a vote, in that I can change it whenever I want, I can even not protect at all. I can do it on myself, but if I do I lose my power at the start of the next day.

Thoughts ?

Can you use it at LyLo? Sounds pretty OP if you can.

Not really. Well it's good if I have perfect reads, but that's pretty conditional. I also need to be alive by then, which is not super likely either.

So you can? I would think that targeting yourself is pretty good since it gives the other townies a good chance to hit scum that day (well, unless Pit is right). And especially if you're actually scum, it's pretty OP at LyLo.
I wouldn't really call that OP if he is town :
T = Town, S = Scum, [Normal chance to hit scum]-> [chance when Teproc protects himself] (assuming random lynches and Teproc stays alive when he uses his power on himself)
2T vs 1S
33% chance to hit scum -> 50% chance (50% -> 100% if the IC is still alive)
3T vs 2S
40% -> 50% (50% -> 66% if the IC is still alive)
3T vs 1S
25% -> 33% (33% -> 50% if the IC is still alive)
4T vs 2S
33% -> 40% (40% -> 50% if the IC is still alive)

If Teproc is scum:
2T vs 1S
Teproc wins because town can't lynch him
3T vs 1S
All 3 town players would have to agree on lynching him otherwise he wins.
3T vs 2S
40% -> 25% chance to lynch scum (unless Teprocs partner and everyone else votes for him) (75% chance that we lose the game)
(50% -> 33% if the IC is still alive)
4T vs 2S
33% -> 20% chance to lynch scum (unless Teprocs partner and everyone else votes for him) (80% chance that we lose the game)
(40% -> 25% if the IC is still alive)

If we come to a LyLo situation Teprocs power is decently helpful for us if he is town and very dangerous if he is scum. If we aren't in LyLo his power is only helpful if his reads are better than the ones of us.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 27, 2015, 08:12:47 am »
Vote: Teproc because he is actually a scum-protector.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M57: Blarnia Mafia (Signups Open)
« on: January 22, 2015, 05:30:38 pm »
/in

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Game ended
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:51:21 pm »
Yeah...I definitely could remove the button from the game, but...

Anyone pushing at the time would have died.

The goal was to be the only player left alive, thereby winning for all town.

I was not even close to confident yet that it was going to work, and the game ended without us getting to further discuss it.

Roleblocking wasn't the worst thing ever, as at least no one would have died.
Nice plan, i would've propably pushed the button instead of captaining you.
Nice setup, too. Really sad that something like that had to happen :/

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 14, 2015, 11:47:33 am »
If BA is lynched, I'LLC push the button, but I don't think he should be. He might as well use the self-sacrificing thing and not waste our lynch.
I agree with this, we should try to lynch scum today and let BA suicide.
It doesn't really hurt us if we get the powers one day later
+ if we are lucky and lynch a second scum we are in a really good position
+ we get the "decently beneficial" effect of BA's suicide
+ i'm pretty sure scum won't kill ash tonight because i'm almost 100% sure that we have someone with protective powers
+ If BA is actually scum and doesn't use his suicide we can just lynch him tomorrow

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 2
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:19:16 pm »
I'm fine with ash's plan. It'd suck if he died tonight, but maybe he won't. I'm just wondering if any protective PR's shouldn't push the button maybe? Because otherwise, it seems like scum is just going to kill ash.

Also, was there any discussion surrounding the whole "ashes have been spread" thing that happened last night? Is this related to the flavor? And does anyone have any idea what it might mean in terms of a game mechanic?
If we follow the plan we should definitely let the protective PRs keep ash alive, otherwise he will most likely die -> whatever his power is will propably be useless -> we give scum a free kill, while our PRs can't use their powers because they all push the button

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Night 1
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:58:41 am »
What happens to the plan if scum decides to NK ash? Does it still work? If we all push the button nobody can protect ash...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 09, 2015, 02:57:04 am »
Vote: reinoe
I don't like his angry-agressive-raging playstyle + i think one of the neighbours is propably scum + TA/robz seems more towny to me

For why?
If i would be mod of a game i wouldn't put two players of the same faction in it. I think that reinoe being scum also makes robz a lot less likely to be scum (why put 2 scum players in a neighbourhood if they have a qt anyway?)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 08, 2015, 05:32:08 pm »
Vote: reinoe
I don't like his angry-agressive-raging playstyle + i think one of the neighbours is propably scum + TA/robz seems more towny to me

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 08, 2015, 11:43:08 am »
Plan update:

All that really matters is tomorrow, I guess.  I suspect I'll be slammed by a few of you for the idea, but it's worth discussing (and doing, in the end), regardless of the risk.

For today, lynch, no-lynch, whatever.  I think it's been a pretty good day 1 so far, and not so crazy long yet.

We should try to do some lynch POE...

1. Teproc
2. Hydrad
3. XerxesPraelor
4. Witherweaver
5. silverspawn
6. Beyond Awesome
7. ashersky
8. Ichimaru Gin
9. xeiron
10. chairs
11. Awaclus
12. 2.71828...
13. xxpittip
14. Twistedarcher
15. A Drowned Kernel
16. reinoe

Strikethroughs are not options for today, bolds are preferred, regular are meh.

XP and xeiron are a pair -- I'd lynch one just so we only have one x-name in the game since I confuse them with each other all the time.
TA and reinoe are a pair -- as you know.
xxpittip is the only player that sticks out as both active and lynchworthy.
Why do you think i'm lynchworthy? I disagreed with your plans, but i told you the reasons and nobody seemed to know how the plan benefits us. The only benefit i can image is if you have a PR that activates when someone is at L-1 (you could be told what their powers are or something like that). But a role like that could also be scum (not as likely, but still possible), which would be a huge disaster for us if we follow the plan.

"XP and xeiron are a pair -- I'd lynch one just so we only have one x-name in the game since I confuse them with each other all the time."
Is this the only reason why their names are bold or is there more behind it?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 07, 2015, 06:50:54 am »
*where putting everyone at L-1 helps town are

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 07, 2015, 06:49:47 am »
Stop it guys. THis is making the game confusing and lets scum be there without doing useful stuff. We'renot doing the L-1 thing.
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Putting everyone at L-1 doesn't help us at all. Nobody will react to that because everyone knows that they're not going to be lynched. The only two scenarios i can imagine where putting everyone at L-1 are:
1. Scum hammers someone at L-1 => 99% chance that they will get lynched on day2 => scum won't do that
2. Someone knows that a certain player is scum => hammers scum when he is at L-1 (This is impossible at day1, since there are no night actions in night0)
 => We don't get any information and waste a huge part of our Day1 time.

btw unvote

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 07, 2015, 01:22:13 am »
Can ash say anything about no-lynch besides that he thinks it's a good idea?

Well, as mentioned previously, I think we should neutralize twilight powers if possible.  Why?  I think they could do more harm than good.  Here's an example:

Imagine a power that allows you to redirect the lynch.  We spend all day decided as a town who to lynch, then it's moved.  Could be by town who disagree, could be by scum saving a partner, could be by scum causing issues.

I am guessing twilight power orders are done by PM, so we won't know who did what.  That's also bad.

Plus, really, Twilight was a terrible book.

I don't understand how no lynching helps in eliminating twilight powers though.

If someone can change the lynch, and there's no lynch, maybe it doesn't work?
So we should just no lynch every day and wait for scum to kill everyone because they might have strong twilight  powers? I don't expect anyone's power to be valid only on day1...

"Imagine a power that [...]" following this logic i could also say that no lynching is really bad, because someone might have the power to decide the lynch by himself if there is none.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM19: LOST Mafia - Day 1
« on: January 05, 2015, 02:10:43 pm »
Vote: Awaclus for lynching me in M54

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D3
« on: December 19, 2014, 04:09:25 pm »
vote: Hydrad
I'd still rather lynch Awaclus / chairs but i don't think starting a wagon on them right now will lead to anything and i'm not really sure about the ichi case. He is not someone i would want to lynch right now.
Btw how much time is left until the day ends?


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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D3
« on: December 18, 2014, 05:17:00 pm »
I'll go to sleep soon, since i don't expect to live when i wake up, my final reads list:
Town <-------------------------------------------------------> Scum
ADK, Eevee, IG, Hugo, WW, Teproc, Hydrad, chairs, Awaclus

If you want to know anything else from me, ask in the next ~20min (or don't lynch me :D)

Any reasons for the reads?

ADK and Eevee should be obvious
IG: I don't remember anything scummy about him, i'd have to reread to confirm it, but i'm pretty sure there is not much to be found in his posts
Hugo: Might actually need a higher scum rank... he isn't active at all when is isn't in danger so i kinda forgot about him
WW: Mostly gut read
Teproc: I actually felt more scummy about him before he made the case against me. It doesn't look like it's written by scum.
Hydrad: 50% gut read, 50% because i read some valid posts for him being scum (can't remember exactly what they were about).
Chairs: Mostly gut read, but considering my success with reads so far that is propably not too meaningful...
Awaclus: Mostly the way he tried to get me lynched. Unless some miracle happens and i survive you will see that i'm actually not scum and that he didn't give any reasons for voting me at the beginning (while he seemed like he was 100% sure about it), propably because he is scum himself and didn't find anything that is convincing enough.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D3
« on: December 18, 2014, 04:43:18 pm »
I'll go to sleep soon, since i don't expect to live when i wake up, my final reads list:
Town <-------------------------------------------------------> Scum
ADK, Eevee, IG, Hugo, WW, Teproc, Hydrad, chairs, Awaclus

If you want to know anything else from me, ask in the next ~20min (or don't lynch me :D)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M54: Musical Mafia - D3
« on: December 18, 2014, 03:08:33 pm »
Well i don't know anything i could say to convince you that i'm actually town... I guess claiming is everything i can do now:
Vanilla Towny, Song: Metallica - Enter Sandman

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