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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #475 on: February 04, 2014, 07:24:26 pm »

Since town had a redirector role, quite possible scum has a bus driver.  They now also have my redirector, which can't stop kills, so a vig would still be able to kill if one exists.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #476 on: February 04, 2014, 07:25:01 pm »

Town PRs, think about what scum PRs would counteract you, or you might counteract.  Mod!Yuma definitely thinks that way when he designs.  We're alike like that.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #477 on: February 04, 2014, 07:25:32 pm »

Town PRs, think about what scum PRs would counteract you, or you might counteract.  Mod!Yuma definitely thinks that way when he designs.  We're alike like that.
Oh man; That means scum has a Godfather!
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #478 on: February 04, 2014, 07:25:43 pm »

what about the people who voted Voltaire early and then barely posted?
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #479 on: February 04, 2014, 07:26:23 pm »

Actually, ninja means tracker. :)

Seriously though, remember, 9 players means incredibly fast lynches and game ends if you make mistakes.  Tomorrow you could be looking at 4 to lynch, and scum is 2 votes at least.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #480 on: February 04, 2014, 07:27:17 pm »

what about the people who voted Voltaire early and then barely posted?

I just don't see them bussing AND leaving their votes on that long.

Possibly those who voted Voltaire early and then voted me later.  Or folks who hedged on Volt (or both of us) and then decided on me as "more likely" scum.  Those are both scum tactics.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #481 on: February 04, 2014, 07:28:03 pm »

I guarantee at least one person in the speccy adamantly posted at least 5 times that I was definitely town.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #482 on: February 04, 2014, 07:28:29 pm »

Deadline in under 2 minutes, I'm guessing yuma is giving us twilight until then.  Anything else I can say?
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #483 on: February 04, 2014, 07:28:53 pm »

Arch seems super scummy, which makes him town.

EFHW is so calm and collected that I fear the Masons & Monks effect.

nah, you had my number from day 1 in M and M.  The way we won was I convinced you I was a DIFFERENT kind of scum.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #484 on: February 04, 2014, 07:29:46 pm »

Arch seems super scummy, which makes him town.

EFHW is so calm and collected that I fear the Masons & Monks effect.

nah, you had my number from day 1 in M and M.  The way we won was I convinced you I was a DIFFERENT kind of scum.

That was a brilliant move.  Didn't help town that Morgrim is so unbelievable.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #485 on: February 04, 2014, 07:30:09 pm »

No Volt at deadline is a big scum tell, too.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #486 on: February 04, 2014, 07:30:17 pm »

Deadline in under 2 minutes, I'm guessing yuma is giving us twilight until then.  Anything else I can say?
Why DID you claim so early?
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #487 on: February 04, 2014, 07:30:44 pm »

what about the people who voted Voltaire early and then barely posted?

I just don't see them bussing AND leaving their votes on that long.

Possibly those who voted Voltaire early and then voted me later.  Or folks who hedged on Volt (or both of us) and then decided on me as "more likely" scum.  Those are both scum tactics.

I think it's a habit of yours to fasten on someone as scum and then never consider any other possibility.  I think it's not actually very helpful for town. 
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #488 on: February 04, 2014, 07:30:47 pm »

Worthwhile re-reads overnight might be Volt's interactions with others, to see what sort of distancing might have been going on.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #489 on: February 04, 2014, 07:31:20 pm »

Deadline in under 2 minutes, I'm guessing yuma is giving us twilight until then.  Anything else I can say?
Why DID you claim so early?

I truly believe it was the right move, given how anti-town my role is.  I wanted to make a point: "don't use your redirection roles people!"
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #490 on: February 04, 2014, 07:31:42 pm »

what about the people who voted Voltaire early and then barely posted?

I just don't see them bussing AND leaving their votes on that long.

Possibly those who voted Voltaire early and then voted me later.  Or folks who hedged on Volt (or both of us) and then decided on me as "more likely" scum.  Those are both scum tactics.

I think it's a habit of yours to fasten on someone as scum and then never consider any other possibility.  I think it's not actually very helpful for town.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  There are games where I've been right, too, you know.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #491 on: February 04, 2014, 07:32:41 pm »

what about the people who voted Voltaire early and then barely posted?

I just don't see them bussing AND leaving their votes on that long.

Possibly those who voted Voltaire early and then voted me later.  Or folks who hedged on Volt (or both of us) and then decided on me as "more likely" scum.  Those are both scum tactics.

I think it's a habit of yours to fasten on someone as scum and then never consider any other possibility.  I think it's not actually very helpful for town.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  There are games where I've been right, too, you know.

More on your original "why not those who voted Volt" question.  I think the safe vote if we're both town is probably me, right?  It's easier to argue away the scumminess of the mislynch with the "ashersky was scummier" and "losing ash's role wasn't as bad" stuff.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #492 on: February 04, 2014, 07:33:16 pm »

I'm guessing Voltaire's already in his scum QT, given he's not posted even once here, even though he's been saved from lynch.

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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #493 on: February 04, 2014, 07:33:28 pm »

So if it was t v t, I think scum was still more likely to push my mislynch through, getting Voltaire the anti-town role he won't use, and moving on.

So, if we're both town OR if Volt is scum, I think scum preferred my lynch.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #494 on: February 04, 2014, 07:34:22 pm »

Rules are scum can't post until threa dlocked, right? You are seriously throwing everything at the wall to me, it's stnadard for you.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #495 on: February 04, 2014, 07:34:26 pm »

Is that more helpful?
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #496 on: February 04, 2014, 07:34:50 pm »

Rules are scum can't post until threa dlocked, right? You are seriously throwing everything at the wall to me, it's stnadard for you.

Doesn't mean you couldn't open up a new post window and start typing out your thoughts.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #497 on: February 04, 2014, 07:35:10 pm »

Rules are scum can't post until threa dlocked, right? You are seriously throwing everything at the wall to me, it's stnadard for you.

Doesn't mean you couldn't open up a new post window and start typing out your thoughts.

Also, you should direct questions about your scum QT to the mod, not the thread.
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #498 on: February 04, 2014, 07:35:27 pm »

You have been right sometimes - you were right about me in M and M.  But when you fasten on one person, you don't help town do any other scum-hunting, and when you are wrong it really derails the process.  You were wrong about me in Innovation, and we both died.

Anyway, have a good afterlife and we'll see you on the other side!
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Re: Arrested Development Mafia (RMM14) - Day1
« Reply #499 on: February 04, 2014, 07:35:52 pm »

Volt, what defenses will you use after my flip?
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