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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #575 on: December 11, 2012, 06:26:40 pm »

Having re-read Lekkit, in his 21 non-spam post, the only thing he's really done other than defend himself is to vote for Shraeye... for lurking.

And this:

Vote: Eevee for reasons stated earlier. going to bed now.

Earlier...

I have absolutely no way of proving it, but I was going to park my vote on Eevee when going to bed tonight, unless something came up that would change my mind there.

No reasons given.
Earlier...

At this time, I'd rather lynch Eevee than Robz, since I think he has contributed less this game.

Oh, and of course he called Eevee and me out. For not contributing much.

Seriously dude, when you're on the chopping block for not contributing, accusing other people of not contributing doesn't really count as contributing. We need some solid reads, man. Give us a reason to vote for someone else, other than one that is more relevant for you.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #576 on: December 11, 2012, 06:28:16 pm »

9 posts before the game starts, 16 after. First 7 are introductions, discussing vig strategy or correcting vote couns, I don't think any of these is particularly relevant to yuma's alignment. Cuzz votes for yuma for a case that's flimsy at best, yuma points this out and votes for Cuzz. I agree with yuma on Cuzz's case, and people like to omgus back when accused with false reasons, so I don't glean anything from this either. Next yuma says he hasnt found Robz scummy in this game, and mildly defends him against Axxle's accusations. I agree with him again, Robz-wagon seems to be there mainly because it's Robz. Next yuma notes I've been awfully silent. Nope, not VLA per ce, just.. not yet that into this game, have little reads and not much to say. I feel I'm like this day 1 a lot, and then pick up my activity later. I think it's mostly a stylistic thing, if I joined fewer games, I might commence rereads already on day 1 and be a better player. Maybe I should try this. (Note, being alive in several games doesn't really affect my activity due to not having time to post. I'm around plenty, it just muddies up my reads a bit, especially in early game.) Then a couple of posts discussing a soft deadline, again something I don't think will be any different regardless of his alignment, and finally the post of asking me questions I just quoted above. That's yuma this far in this game. Analysis of this information: dunno. Hasn't done much anything make me think he is town or scum. That's possibly a mild scum tell for me personally because I take town reads much better than scum reads, so using theorel's scum-o-meter I'll give yuma a 27 (25 was the base). Watnolzria is at 32. Robz at 20.

"I dont do much day 1 since my reads arent good yet and im bad at day 1" Sounds like a good way to not be responsible for your votes.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #577 on: December 11, 2012, 06:29:40 pm »

Oh - and FOS y'all for giving RobZ a pass because we kill him too much.

I am totally fine killing Robz D2. I just know he gets a bit bummed about it.

Btw, all of you abandoning the Lekkit wagon, what have Lekkit's reads been so far this game? It's D1 but RVS is long over, and although Lekkit has spent a lot of time defending himself, I don't recall him doing any scumhunting or giving his impression of any of the other players.

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #578 on: December 11, 2012, 06:31:37 pm »

"I dont do much day 1 since my reads arent good yet and im bad at day 1" Sounds like a good way to not be responsible for your votes.

Isn't that what you've been saying all along?
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #579 on: December 11, 2012, 06:31:50 pm »

Vote: Lekkit, now that's something I have done before with great success too. He is not even in any other games (afaik), he should be able to contribute if he wanted to!

First game we played you did this and was right. second game you dodnt, and was right about the read, third game we were togeräther in you wrre scum. Why add the part that you are good at voting me? justifying a vote partially by claiming incorrect facts.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #580 on: December 11, 2012, 06:34:32 pm »

Vote: Lekkit, now that's something I have done before with great success too. He is not even in any other games (afaik), he should be able to contribute if he wanted to!

First game we played you did this and was right. second game you dodnt, and was right about the read, third game we were togeräther in you wrre scum. Why add the part that you are good at voting me? justifying a vote partially by claiming incorrect facts.
i dont understand this post, what do you mean?
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #581 on: December 11, 2012, 06:34:42 pm »

Soo....

Eevee has been at L-1 for almost 15 minutes. Not sure if I should read anything into that. Is scum not willing to hammer out their partner, or is Eevee town and scum doesn't want to jump into a scummy position? I hate WIFOM arguments.

Normally, I would think scum would bus at this point. Get some nice town cred on a lynch that's sitting on the brink. But with Lekkit's lynch also very close (With Raerae voting, that's L-2 on Lekkit again), they may just try to push him up to lynch status instead.

Is it reasonable to guess that ONE of them is probably scum? Or are they both town, and scum has their votes split, happily watching the clock roll by?

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #582 on: December 11, 2012, 06:34:52 pm »

Oh - and FOS y'all for giving RobZ a pass because we kill him too much.

I am totally fine killing Robz D2. I just know he gets a bit bummed about it.

Btw, all of you abandoning the Lekkit wagon, what have Lekkit's reads been so far this game? It's D1 but RVS is long over, and although Lekkit has spent a lot of time defending himself, I don't recall him doing any scumhunting or giving his impression of any of the other players.

PPE: Jimmmmmmmm agrees.

Has anyone abandoned the lekkit wagon other than Galzria style?
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #583 on: December 11, 2012, 06:36:34 pm »

to be fair, a bunch of people have been just as lazy as i have. voting for me for lack of contributions is not fair in my opinion. but i guess you think my contributions have been scummy, which is understandable.

I feel you here. And I get why tou would be voting for me. Someone said that agreeing with pwoples arguments is a good way to not attract suspicion. I guess that makes us two who are in that boat.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #584 on: December 11, 2012, 06:36:44 pm »

Re-updated:

Vote Count 1.14

Robz888 (1): theorel
Eevee (6): yuma, Axxle, Robz888, Lekkit, Galzria, Captain_Frisk {L-1}
Lekkit (5): cayvie, Cuzz, shraeye, Eevee, Raerae {L-2}
cayvie (1): Jimmmmm

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on Thursday, December 20, at 4:30 p.m. forum time.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #585 on: December 11, 2012, 06:37:03 pm »

Oh - and FOS y'all for giving RobZ a pass because we kill him too much.

I am totally fine killing Robz D2. I just know he gets a bit bummed about it.

Btw, all of you abandoning the Lekkit wagon, what have Lekkit's reads been so far this game? It's D1 but RVS is long over, and although Lekkit has spent a lot of time defending himself, I don't recall him doing any scumhunting or giving his impression of any of the other players.

PPE: Jimmmmmmmm agrees.

Has anyone abandoned the lekkit wagon other than Galzria style?

My bad, I though you had been voting for Lekkit before Eevee.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #586 on: December 11, 2012, 06:37:12 pm »

I'm more comfortable with the Lekkit lynch, since if he's not scum, he's been pretty useless as Town.

No offense dude, you know it's true.

Vote: Lekkit
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #587 on: December 11, 2012, 06:37:49 pm »

theorel?
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #588 on: December 11, 2012, 06:37:57 pm »

That's two L-1's.  :o
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #589 on: December 11, 2012, 06:38:30 pm »

That's two L-1's.  :o

Which I believe is a f.DS first, fwiw.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #590 on: December 11, 2012, 06:38:35 pm »

I obviously think there is a good chance of us both being town. But other townies dont have the luxury of knowing my alignment.

Lekkit, with great success was referring to the fact I gathered your towniness from your reaction to pressure day1 in VIII.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #591 on: December 11, 2012, 06:38:58 pm »

That's two L-1's.  :o

Which I believe is a f.DS first, fwiw.

((Outside of lylo))
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #592 on: December 11, 2012, 06:39:02 pm »

This is pretty intense.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #593 on: December 11, 2012, 06:39:51 pm »

to be fair, a bunch of people have been just as lazy as i have. voting for me for lack of contributions is not fair in my opinion. but i guess you think my contributions have been scummy, which is understandable.

I feel you here. And I get why tou would be voting for me. Someone said that agreeing with pwoples arguments is a good way to not attract suspicion. I guess that makes us two who are in that boat.


Something about this makes me want to note lekkit

Robzs technigue for being scum perhaps?  Apologize - see their point and hope they get over it?
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #594 on: December 11, 2012, 06:40:02 pm »

I think there's good questions in this post, btw. Would like to hear thoughts about the various ideas:

Soo....

Eevee has been at L-1 for almost 15 minutes. Not sure if I should read anything into that. Is scum not willing to hammer out their partner, or is Eevee town and scum doesn't want to jump into a scummy position? I hate WIFOM arguments.

Normally, I would think scum would bus at this point. Get some nice town cred on a lynch that's sitting on the brink. But with Lekkit's lynch also very close (With Raerae voting, that's L-2 on Lekkit again), they may just try to push him up to lynch status instead.

Is it reasonable to guess that ONE of them is probably scum? Or are they both town, and scum has their votes split, happily watching the clock roll by?

 ???
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #595 on: December 11, 2012, 06:40:23 pm »

Every single person in this game (apart from Eevee and Lekkit) has the power to lynch someone else now.
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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #596 on: December 11, 2012, 06:40:40 pm »

Shoukd we discuss claiming?
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« Reply #597 on: December 11, 2012, 06:40:58 pm »

We're all Vig's!  8)
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XVII: Tabula Rasa (Buffyverse) - Day 1 Started!
« Reply #598 on: December 11, 2012, 06:41:08 pm »

I dont like how you are implying one of us is likely scum, could be setting us up for a mislynch tomorrow.
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« Reply #599 on: December 11, 2012, 06:41:30 pm »

I dont like how you are implying one of us is likely scum, could be setting us up for a mislynch tomorrow.

I'm in fact NOT implying that. Please read again.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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