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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1100 on: November 17, 2015, 04:38:19 pm »

Sounds good to me!

Vote:Xerxes
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1101 on: November 17, 2015, 05:07:26 pm »

Roadrunner, who did you target Night 1?

He said the yellow pokemon guy: Ampharos

Hmm... so Faust/RR is possible?

I don't follow.

Mafiascum Hider says:

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A variation of the hider applies the targetting when hidden not only on nightkills, but also with other night actions. With this variation, for example, a cop targetting the player the hider is hiding behind will get two results, for his target, and the hider.

So Hider is the only explanation so far to PPS legitimately getting two results on Jimmmm.  (He could have made it up for weird fakeclaim credibility.)   But you claimed to Hide behind Amphoras, and you "verified" that RR targetted Amphoras.  So you and RR could be lying (about your targets N1).

But as you said, why claim Hider. 
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1102 on: November 17, 2015, 05:23:09 pm »

So uh... before I get into claim analysis, let me do my claim so we're complete.

I am a Hiding Semi Beloved Princess.

Every night, I can target someone. Every action that targets me fails, and any action targetting my target will also target me. But if I target mafia, or anyone with a gun, I die. If I get nightkilled, the following Day phase is skipped and the game moves to another night.

So I tried to stay alive. Obviously I was a major target for scum.

N1 I targetted Ampharos. He seemed townie and I didn't think he'd be lynched. I got a note saying that RR targetted me.

So N2 I targetted Roadrunner. It was a hard decision between choosing the safe target and getting more info. RR seemed townie and the confirmation worth it. Also with the loud thing.

N3 I got cold feet and targetted Ampharos again. (He seemed less likely to by killed than RR) He died, but I live, so yay. I guess that must have something to do with the Bodyguard.

I have more thoughts that I will share when I get up.

Oh, or I could have actually just read your claim correctly.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1103 on: November 17, 2015, 05:43:34 pm »

Vote Count 4.5

Xerxes (3): faust, RR, iguanaiguana (L-1)

Not Voting (4): Hydrad, witherweaver, EgorK, Xerxes

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1104 on: November 17, 2015, 05:51:06 pm »

So WW... thoughts on Xerxes?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1105 on: November 17, 2015, 06:01:57 pm »

Interesting voting patterns this day so far
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1106 on: November 17, 2015, 09:56:36 pm »

I am not going to vote myself.

My reads: Faust > II > Hydrad > WW > EgorK > RR.

Scumhider!Faust is reasonable because he probably did not anticipate being stuck in this fakeclaim, and claiming as close to your actual role as possible is good to make yourself sound as plausible as possible, he was towny already without needing to use EgorK's result (and needed to claim that he hid in case someone targeted him).
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1107 on: November 17, 2015, 09:59:45 pm »

Yay! I am towny by everyone! That just means I'll die tonight!
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1108 on: November 17, 2015, 10:00:51 pm »

Yay! I am towny by everyone! That just means I'll die tonight!

Nah, WW thinks you are scum.



(Of course he is probably the other scum)
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1109 on: November 17, 2015, 10:02:09 pm »

No, WW doesn't think I'm scum. Right, WW?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1110 on: November 17, 2015, 10:05:09 pm »

No, WW doesn't think I'm scum. Right, WW?

Man, I would normally contradict you here, but the more I read the more I'm convinced that manipulating Roadrunner is like the scummiest thing ever...

so I'm just going to let you think whatever you want.

See you Saturday!  8) 8) 8) :o
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1111 on: November 17, 2015, 10:09:08 pm »

No, WW doesn't think I'm scum. Right, WW?

Man, I would normally contradict you here, but the more I read the more I'm convinced that manipulating Roadrunner is like the scummiest thing ever...

so I'm just going to let you think whatever you want.

See you Saturday!  8) 8) 8) :o
Manipulating Roadrunner? Why would you ever want to do that?? And it'll be nice to meet you (along with others) in person to get crushed at Dominion. Oh, boy!
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1112 on: November 17, 2015, 10:12:11 pm »

No, WW doesn't think I'm scum. Right, WW?

Man, I would normally contradict you here, but the more I read the more I'm convinced that manipulating Roadrunner is like the scummiest thing ever...

so I'm just going to let you think whatever you want.

See you Saturday!  8) 8) 8) :o
Manipulating Roadrunner? Why would you ever want to do that?? And it'll be nice to meet you (along with others) in person to get crushed at Dominion. Oh, boy!

I personally believe that scum spend a lot of time either
a) trying to manipulate you into voting for who they want to vote for or
b) trying to manipulate other people into voting for you

Just vote your conscience Roadrunner! Just be free!
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1113 on: November 17, 2015, 10:15:26 pm »

You're right, iguana!
Vote: Iguana
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1114 on: November 17, 2015, 10:16:57 pm »

You're right, iguana!
Vote: Iguana

lol

"I'm town"
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1115 on: November 17, 2015, 10:23:10 pm »

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1116 on: November 18, 2015, 04:18:43 am »

I am not going to vote myself.

My reads: Faust > II > Hydrad > WW > EgorK > RR.

Scumhider!Faust is reasonable because he probably did not anticipate being stuck in this fakeclaim, and claiming as close to your actual role as possible is good to make yourself sound as plausible as possible, he was towny already without needing to use EgorK's result (and needed to claim that he hid in case someone targeted him).

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Right, I brought up the idea of a fakeclaim, but I did not anticipate that I would have to claim. Wow, that makes a lot of sense.
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1117 on: November 18, 2015, 04:20:00 am »

*fakeclaim=massclaim
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1118 on: November 18, 2015, 07:41:37 am »

Vote Count 4.6

Xerxes (2): faust, iguanaiguana (L-2)

Not Voting (5): Hydrad, witherweaver, EgorK, Xerxes, RR

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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1119 on: November 18, 2015, 07:42:19 am »

Oops I forgot to put my vote back.
Vote: Xerxes
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1120 on: November 18, 2015, 09:11:34 am »

When does today end?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1121 on: November 18, 2015, 09:15:12 am »

Should be night of november 21?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1122 on: November 18, 2015, 09:16:20 am »

Vote Count 4.7

Xerxes (3): faust, iguanaiguana, RR (L-1)

Not Voting (4): Hydrad, witherweaver, EgorK, Xerxes

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Day4 ends Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 10:00 pm forum time
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1123 on: November 18, 2015, 09:17:46 am »

I'm not sure I buy the two Hider thing.  A Redirector of some kind would make more sense.  But there is a still a problem that PPS got Town and Scum, and I don't think it would occur to him to make up getting two results.  I didn't even think it was possible until I read the Hider thing.  It's possible he got two Town results and decided to falsify one of them for confusion.

Actually can you even have a scum!Hider?  Normally a Hider dies if they target Mafia, so what does a non-Town Hider mean?
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Re: RMM 28: Simply Simpler Simple Mafia (Day4)
« Reply #1124 on: November 18, 2015, 09:19:37 am »

Is Xerxes' Roleblocking ability confirmed?
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