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[gkrieg13]

I really don't know what other defending I can do of myself right now.  Obviously at this point there has to be scum on my wagon.

Ampharos, faust, iguanaiguana, silverspawn, Jimmmmm, PPS, RR

I still have a town read on RR, he seems very towny this game. 
ss still seems the scummiest on my wagon both for position and for reasoning.
I'm not too sure on PPS or Jimmmmmm.
@PPS: I don't know why I'm becoming the policy lynch just because my wagon is the biggest.

[Roadrunner7671]

Unvote thid isn't hammer time.

[iguanaiguana]

The Jimmmmm and PPS votes put gkrieg to L-2, btw.

I don't see what others are seeing about gkrieg.  I think he's decidedly null so far.  I think SS is by far the scummiest player so far today.  I could also see faust being scum, given his lack of deductive reasoning.

So I guess I'd move my vote to faust, if that was going to happen.  Otherwise, I still think SS is the way to go.

There's just been very little else of interest.

Faust as scum is something I've put a lot of thought into. It's very possible. It just doesn't make him a good D1 lynch target.

I really don't like e's trying to make a third lynch target out of Hydrad. There were two wagons: gkrieg and SS, and it makes me feel like he was trying to distract from one of those two wagons by picking an easy player to target and calling him scum. e's addition really makes me feel like he is also scum with either SS or Gkrieg.

[yuma]

Vote Count 1.11

Hydrad (3): 2.7, Egork, Xerxes
SS (3): ashersky, WW, gkreig
gkrieg (6): Ampharos, faust, iguanaiguana, silverspawn, Jimmmmm, PPS (L-2)
PPS (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (1): RR

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day1 will end Thursday, November 5 at 8:30 pm forum time

[gkrieg13]

I don't think I'm L-1 because you only have 6 votes there?

[silverspawn]

And can someone point out what silverspawn did that was scummy? I don't see that either.

Main thing for me is he reacted to pressure in a weird way. I don't think I have ever seen silver going all "I demand you tell me your reasons!", and think that's more likely to come from scum. Also the initial reaction to Egor's claim was scummish.

Ironically, you were the main inspiration for that post.

[silverspawn]

I agree that I've never done it before, but I absolutely disagree that it's more likely to come from scum. I'm almost entirely sure that I wouldn't have made that post as scum.

[silverspawn]

Well, with this post, I won't vote for anyone except gkrieg today. I watched ash closely in fanfiction mafia; he doesn't bus, this is exactly the kind of post he did defending his partners in that game, dismissing the case for on real reason.

[silverspawn]

ss still seems the scummiest on my wagon both for position and for reasoning.

Man, you don't even seem to believe this yourself.

[silverspawn]

@gkrieg: I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why you think I'm scum. An actual reason, not a vague categorical term such as 'position' or 'reasoning'

[yuma]

I don't think I'm L-1 because you only have 6 votes there?

Fixed

[iguanaiguana]

Unvote thid isn't hammer time.

I don't know when you think it is time to put someone at L-1, but we only have 6 or 7 more hours to make a lynch. So unless you want a no-lynch today, L-1 looks good now. I'm talking here as one townie to another here. Hope you can forgive me for doubting you earlier

[pingpongsam]

It's certainly occurred to me that faust may be scum. faust is a strong enough player that his play this day can be read as either. All that said, in my opinion, he has provided the best contributions to the day thus far and is a terrible D1 candidate. Also, I read him more as town than as scum which is a compliment if he is actually scum. I do see the bits about him not being his usual full on town self that may be as much scum tell as we are going to get. Contributing scum are very tough scum to lynch.

[silverspawn]

Unvote thid isn't hammer time.

I don't know when you think it is time to put someone at L-1, but we only have 6 or 7 more hours to make a lynch.

+ one day.

[2.71828.....]

So, right now we are going to do the lazy thing and lynch gkrieg.  Which is regrettably how D1 tends to go around here.

I much prefer someone like hydrad right now.

[silverspawn]

So, right now we are going to do the lazy thing and lynch gkrieg.  Which is regrettably how D1 tends to go around here.

I much prefer someone like hydrad right now.

I think gkrieg has higher chances to be scum than your typical day 1 lynch

[Witherweaver]

I would much rather lynch Silverspawn.

[silverspawn]

I would much rather lynch silverspawn.

that worries me

[XerxesPraelor]

It's certainly occurred to me that faust may be scum. faust is a strong enough player that his play this day can be read as either. All that said, in my opinion, he has provided the best contributions to the day thus far and is a terrible D1 candidate. Also, I read him more as town than as scum which is a compliment if he is actually scum. I do see the bits about him not being his usual full on town self that may be as much scum tell as we are going to get. Contributing scum are very tough scum to lynch.

Yeah I don't think so. When faust makes sense, he's town. This is not an exception.

PPE: Hi, SilverSPawn and withHerWeaver, I'm XerxESP.

[silverspawn]

ah... the pain...

[silverspawn]

I've been correcting quotes for months and no-one ever seemed to notice

[XerxesPraelor]

Hmm, faust's sorta-case on you is interesting. Looks like there's deadline though, so we need a lynch. I guess I have to decide between doing nothing, voting gkrieg, or voting silverspawn very quickly. gkrieg is okay, I think his flip would give some good information either way, but I think he's more likely than not by a bit to flip town. silverspawn is active and pro-town, which makes lynching him unappealable. A PPS lynch would be best I think, but it's not really happening yet. I guess I'll wait a bit, and if at deadline there's no lynch I'll vote gkrieg.

[pingpongsam]

A PPS lynch would be best I think, but it's not really happening yet.

How so? The role mixup is a terrible excuse. what have I done that is scummy? What do you learn from my flip that helps you identify scum the next day?

[iguanaiguana]

Unvote thid isn't hammer time.

I don't know when you think it is time to put someone at L-1, but we only have 6 or 7 more hours to make a lynch.

+ one day.

The worst part about seeing this was realizing that I have to work another two days before the weekend

[iguanaiguana]

A PPS lynch would be best I think, but it's not really happening yet.

How so? The role mixup is a terrible excuse. what have I done that is scummy? What do you learn from my flip that helps you identify scum the next day?

Also yeah he has some real reasons here why lynching him would be bad. I'm actually surprised that his wagon continued to be a thing after he claimed to check his role with the mod.