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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #250 on: November 20, 2012, 03:52:59 pm »

hmmm, i just realized that my scumlist is the same as jimmmm's.  I'm trying to consider how that affects my opinion of him.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #251 on: November 20, 2012, 03:53:08 pm »

Sir, I've been sniping at Eevee for a while now, that's not news.  I'm sniping at Frisk now because I'm more suspicious of him.  My first instinct for scumteam was Archetype/jimmm/eevee, but I don't like how boldly jimmm listed both archetype and eevee on his scumlist.  So now I'm considering other alternatives.  Archetype and Eevee I still find scummy, for the reasons I've seen before.  Between Robz/Frisk, I'm having a much easier time seeing Frisk on the scumteam.  I'm gonna go look at interations between the three i suspect (frisk, archetype, eevee).

Never said it was I was telling Galz to try and avoid confirmation bias. A bit touchy aren't you?
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #252 on: November 20, 2012, 03:54:33 pm »

Lots going down. Shraeye agrees with my read on the Eevee/Jimm situation. His argument with Eevee looks straightforwardly "real" as in, not staged.

This is the point where I would accuse shraeye of "buddying up" to me, if I A) thought "buddying up" was actually a scumtell (I don't), or B) thought there was any reason scum would buddy up to me (there isn't).

If Eevee is scum, I could see Jimm/Frisk or Jimm/Archetype being his partners.

If Eevee is not scum, shraeye becomes more likely scum, but really anyone, at that point.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #253 on: November 20, 2012, 03:55:06 pm »

Yeah, I got touchy there.  It sounded to me exactly like you were trying to tell Galz to ignore his new information on me.  Apologies for the misread.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #254 on: November 20, 2012, 03:56:07 pm »

If Eevee is not scum, shraeye becomes more likely scum, but really anyone, at that point.
Oh yes this.


Shraeye, Robz's case made me suspect you a tad more. I'd also be okay with lynching archetype, more than.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #255 on: November 20, 2012, 03:56:34 pm »

ALERT: I will have to leave about 20 minutes before deadline. I will be around until then, however.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #256 on: November 20, 2012, 04:00:15 pm »

If Eevee is not scum, shraeye becomes more likely scum, but really anyone, at that point.
Oh yes this.


Shraeye, Robz's case made me suspect you a tad more. I'd also be okay with lynching archetype, more than.
Oh I understand.  From your perspective, Robz making a good case on Jimmm made robz look more towny (or at least not on jimmm's team).  So I'm about on scum-level with Archetype with Jimmm leading, in your opinion?
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #257 on: November 20, 2012, 04:03:36 pm »

Hmm, I claim that I think scum would be friendly/neutral towards each other D1 based off the results of previous games.

I call my top two reads Shraeye/CF - largely (though not specifically mentioned) because of their interactions to date.

I go make lunch.

I come back and Shraeye/Frisk are aiming snipes at each other.

Fascinating.

Shraeye is also sniping at Eevee. Gotta try and avoid confirmation bias

I'm wary of it - but honestly, can you tell me my observation is wrong? Go back and look at the interactions earlier on, and then the very quick and sudden change.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #258 on: November 20, 2012, 04:05:11 pm »

Shraeye, gathering my feelings, from most willing to least willing to lynch now:

archetype
Jimm
shraeye
robz
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #259 on: November 20, 2012, 04:06:39 pm »

Hmm, I claim that I think scum would be friendly/neutral towards each other D1 based off the results of previous games.

I call my top two reads Shraeye/CF - largely (though not specifically mentioned) because of their interactions to date.

I go make lunch.

I come back and Shraeye/Frisk are aiming snipes at each other.

Fascinating.

Shraeye is also sniping at Eevee. Gotta try and avoid confirmation bias

I'm wary of it - but honestly, can you tell me my observation is wrong? Go back and look at the interactions earlier on, and then the very quick and sudden change.

Are you saying shraeye-Frisk sniping at each other makes them scummy, because they were doing what you thought scum would do, and then deliberately (maybe) changed to be doing the opposite of that?
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #260 on: November 20, 2012, 04:06:57 pm »

Galz, i don't know what my sniping you are referring to, but I think you'll see that shraeye was simply not around to interact with previously?
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #261 on: November 20, 2012, 04:09:27 pm »

My attempt at making a case on Eevee:

"adds some credibility to the case because at least i know the smart guy making it isnt trying to trick me." what part of that do you disagree?
buddying and subtle encouragement of the ICs current reads; and I know each of them is wrong on at least one person, since they both suspected me.

I agree with shraeye here. Eevee seems to be slightly buddying up to the ICs. He says he calls Galzria smart because he thinks he is. While I do agree with him, that sort of thing is better talked about after the game, not during.

I believe I've explained my reaction to galz's proposal. in a nutshell 'I don't think he'll actually do it, but yeah might be a good way to get scum out of their comfort zone'. at first I read it as an awkward joke. why would I be worried about that anyways? I think I've posted more than almost anyone here.
He says this right before he calls Galzria smart. A smart Galzria would post this 'voting plan' to try and flush out scum by seeing how often they post. You say that you 'think you've posted more than almost anyone here'. I know this is your meta, but it seems you've posted in this game more than usual.

Looking back, I couldn't find too much info on Eevee, but he is just giving me a very bad feeling. I could see Jimmmm/Eevee/Captain_Frisk on a scum team, with the 'fight' between Jimmm and Eevee being fake.

I'd be overall ok with a Eevee or Jimmmm lynch. A lot more Eevee than Jimmmm. I do want to see how the ICs weigh in on this.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #262 on: November 20, 2012, 04:10:53 pm »

Vote Count 1.6:

shraeye (1, u1): Insomniac
Eevee (1, u1): Archetype, Archetype
Robz888 (0, u1): Galzria
Jimmmmm (1, u1): Robz888
Captain_Frisk (1, u2): Archetype, Galzria

Not voting (5): Captain_Frisk, Eevee, Jimmmmm, shraeye

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 ends Tuesday, November 16 at 6:00 p.m. forum time.

Note, day starts and vote counts are linked in Post #1.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #263 on: November 20, 2012, 04:12:04 pm »

I too will be away near the end of the deadline. I've said my piece on what's going on, but most likely to lynch, from most wanted, to least wanted:

Eevee
Jimmmm
Captain_Frisk
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #264 on: November 20, 2012, 04:14:52 pm »

Post Count:

Robz: 23
Shraeye: 34
Insomniac: 23
Archetype: 21
Eevee: 36
Galzria: 30
Frisk: 49
Jimmmm: 25
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #265 on: November 20, 2012, 04:16:38 pm »

That includes pre-game for all players, although Jimm had no posts during that time, subbing in for Cuzz at the last minute.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #266 on: November 20, 2012, 04:18:10 pm »

That includes pre-game for all players, although Jimm had no posts during that time, subbing in for Cuzz at the last minute.

You included pre-game? Garbage count.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #267 on: November 20, 2012, 04:18:58 pm »

Post Count:

Robz: 23
Shraeye: 34
Insomniac: 23
Archetype: 21
Eevee: 36
Galzria: 30
Frisk: 49
Jimmmm: 25
Did you count Frisk's barrage of quotes + comments separately?
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #268 on: November 20, 2012, 04:19:46 pm »

I think Eevee is the way to go today. But Galz if you'd rather go shraeye I'd be ok going that way as I think both of them should be somewhat telling of the other player.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #269 on: November 20, 2012, 04:21:21 pm »

Post Count:

Robz: 23
Shraeye: 34
Insomniac: 23
Archetype: 21
Eevee: 36
Galzria: 30
Frisk: 49
Jimmmm: 25
Did you count Frisk's barrage of quotes + comments separately?

So take them out and consider them 1 big mega post - whatever floats your boat.  Impressive that there are relatively few lurkers here - I don't see any need for a policy lynch vote like last time.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #270 on: November 20, 2012, 04:24:01 pm »

Right now I am most satisfied with Jimm or Eevee. Then probably Archetype, Frisk, shraeye, in roughly that order.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #271 on: November 20, 2012, 04:25:15 pm »

Vote: Eevee

Getting close to deadline.  Done the talking.  Now I'm doing the voting.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #272 on: November 20, 2012, 04:25:44 pm »

I think Eevee is the way to go today. But Galz if you'd rather go shraeye I'd be ok going that way as I think both of them should be somewhat telling of the other player.

Can I game the in-thread confirmations VS Scum-thread confirmations? ;D

((Note: I'm not doing so))
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #273 on: November 20, 2012, 04:27:32 pm »

I think Eevee is the way to go today. But Galz if you'd rather go shraeye I'd be ok going that way as I think both of them should be somewhat telling of the other player.

Can I game the in-thread confirmations VS Scum-thread confirmations? ;D

((Note: I'm not doing so))
I'm not sure what that means.
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Re: Blitz Mafia V: Return of the Veteran Ship (D1 Start) - PM for Spec
« Reply #274 on: November 20, 2012, 04:28:44 pm »

Vote: Eevee, since it seems we are heading this way and he is a very close second in my preferred lynch ordering.
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