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[Lekkit]

Do you think my boasts would hurt me? Because I don't. And I want Mr Wigglesworth to be MINE!

[Ozle]

man, y'all are being aggressive with the boasting

That's what I was thinking!

I'm back now Insom, you can ignore that list.

I'm going to try to steal Lekkits guy now just so all that flavour goes to waste!!

[Lekkit]

It doesn't go to waste, you just inherit it.

[Ozle]

Do you think my boasts would hurt me? Because I don't. And I want Mr Wigglesworth to be MINE!

It depends if your juggling gets applied before your x4'ing.... You could have just gimped yourself big time! haha

[Lekkit]

I don't know much about the game, but I don't expect 4's and 8's are going to help me tremendeously. And I've interpreted the rules so that a rolled 1 or 2 equals 0 with the juggling cleaver. Eustace Wigglesworth is not a sissy anymore!

[Ozle]

I think you are all right, but I was checking that 'While Juggling - After rolling subtract 1 from the total,'
If that is done after you roll the dice, but before you multiply...

That means 6's will count as 5's (and then only go up to 20), 5's will be 4's (and only go up to 16), 4's will be 3's and only go up to 12, and 3.2.1 will all not count for anything.

[Lekkit]

OH! I totally misread while juggling. Yeah, I think Wigglesworth might be in a pretty bad spot.

[Lekkit]

Wait, I think I might be good.

[Lekkit]

I can't access the rules right now, but both the Cleaver and the While Juggling are effects that happen at the same time; "after rolling". What decides the order?

[Ozle]

I think you are alright

Each player rolls the number of Attack dice (        ) indicated on their
Hero’s Class card. Add the total of your dice and apply the effects of
any applicable Class & Weapon Abilities, Boasts, Penalties and/or
Bonuses to determine your Attack Strength

Theres nothing in the FAQ about either Cleaver or Juggling,

[Lekkit]

Lucky for us, we are very clever.

I would like to hear Insom's say in this. But I still choose Wigglesworth!

[Captain_Frisk]

I would have guessed it would be after the x4, but I could see it either way.

If only there was some expert on this game in these forums.

[Ozle]

Yeah, I was sort of hoping he would stop by....

"If you post it, he will come...."

[Voltgloss]

What's the language on the Axe card? 

I ask because the FAQ in the rules says, for Axe, "Double your Attack Strength after applying any other modifiers, such as While Juggling’s penalty."  So in the case of Axe, the -1 happens first and then you double.  But does the Axe card have the same language as Cleaver, or different language?

[Captain_Frisk]

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/870379/cleaver-with-1-attack-strength

He's already answered this.  It's after.

[Watno]

The armsmaster does his own kind of boasting:
"I will kill them all with my deadly fist", he brags, "and to make it harder I'll even take a sling with me in addition."
The audience fails to be impressed by his boast, however.
Boast: Armsmaster with deadly fists, and a sling

[Captain_Frisk]

All right cayvie, you taking the free monk, or overboasting?

[Insomniac]

You -1 after multiplying by 4 for a cleaver while juggling.

[Lekkit]

Well, then, guys! Wigglesworth is totally gonna win this. Easy peasy! Let's just hope cayvie doesn't steal him.

[Insomniac]

An Aside. Dibs on a spot in III.

[jotheonah]

Insom, when we get to the dungeon part, how much of the math are you going to do for us?

[Insomniac]

Insom, when we get to the dungeon part, how much of the math are you going to do for us?

All of it.

[shraeye]

Insom, when we get to the dungeon part, how much of the math are you going to do for us?

All of it.

Insomniac loooves computations.

[Insomniac]

In essence once the Dungeon starts, It'll look something like this.

Frisk (16)
    Rolls: 6+6+2+2+1=17
    Juggling: 17-1=16

[Captain_Frisk]

Frisk (16)
Rolls: 6+6+6+6+6 = 30
Juggling: 30 -1 = 29