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Author Topic: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (MAFIA WIN)  (Read 113499 times)

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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1150 on: February 03, 2013, 01:23:47 pm »

Man... my luck has been horrendous.... Same JK claim as eevee... shot someone who couldn't die! This has not been my game. Ugh!

I give up. just lynch me now.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1151 on: February 03, 2013, 01:27:12 pm »

That could VERY WELL have been a gambit trying to set Ins up to look like a serial killer. Interesting to see what exactly he'll flip.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1152 on: February 03, 2013, 02:00:15 pm »

Before we lynch yuma, I think we should hear Cuzz claim and decide who Dsell should target.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1153 on: February 03, 2013, 02:01:10 pm »

yuma, do you think it's likely that there could be two bulletproofs in this set up?
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1154 on: February 03, 2013, 02:03:03 pm »

Before we lynch yuma, I think we should hear Cuzz claim and decide who Dsell should target.
Yes, for sure.
yuma, do you think it's likely that there could be two bulletproofs in this set up?
Yuma admitted to being mafia. I don't know if we should really ask him any questions anymore..
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1155 on: February 03, 2013, 02:26:52 pm »

Before we lynch yuma, I think we should hear Cuzz claim and decide who Dsell should target.
yeah, absolutely.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1156 on: February 03, 2013, 03:23:06 pm »

yuma, do you think it's likely that there could be two bulletproofs in this set up?

absolutely! I have a one-shot bullet proof, I think there are a lot floating around...
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1157 on: February 03, 2013, 04:50:55 pm »

Before we lynch yuma, I think we should hear Cuzz claim and decide who Dsell should target.
Yes, for sure.
yuma, do you think it's likely that there could be two bulletproofs in this set up?
Yuma admitted to being mafia. I don't know if we should really ask him any questions anymore..

you don't want to ask me more questions? But supposedly I know all the inside information... Actually I really don't. I am not part of the scum team. Ask them once you find them. I am sure they are all like "What! This townie is crazy... because I am... crazy..." I don't even know who scum is!
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1158 on: February 03, 2013, 08:08:31 pm »

Alright, it's clear that yuma's given up.  I tend to think his dayvig thing was a troll, his 1-shot bulletproof thing was also a troll, and he's just caught scum flailing at this point to try to derail us.

What do we hope Cuzz will tell us?  I assume he comes in here and claims SK, or just doesn't claim.

Plan of action should be to lynch yuma, Dsell shoots Cuzz.  Come back on D4 and full claim with whoever is left alive and scumhunt from there.

Here's what I see:

conf!town:
Ashersky (to me, of course - anyone else making this list would drop me into the unknowns)
Eevee (Mason + Gunsmith/Jailkeeper variant while both masons were alive)
Archetype (Town Recharger)

Unknown:
Shraeye - no claim
Insomniac - claimed X-shot something, has 3 shots
Dsell - claimed town Vig

Scum:
yuma - probable mafia (confirmed fake claim)
Cuzz - probably SK (confirmed gun holder)

Remaining scum will kill from the conf!town group, so we can't whittle down the unknown group any further, UNLESS Dsell is scum.  Then Dsell's Cuzz kill will be the only kill and we'll know Dsell is scum and yuma's partner, and not the town vig.

Insom/Shraeye have both been kind of quiet all game, so either of them could be scum, I guess.  I lean toward Insom, given yuma's fake dayvig target was him.  Looked like a late attempt to distance.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1159 on: February 03, 2013, 08:29:10 pm »

i think it's highly likely cuzz is mafia, not the sk. if Dsell is mafia and cuzz the sk, I don't think he'll shoot cuzz.

but mainly point a, cuzz is mafia, maybe with dsell maybe with someone else. sk is either ins, ashersky or shraeye, would be my prediction.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1160 on: February 03, 2013, 10:13:17 pm »

Cuzz isn't the SK. At least I dont' think he is. Maybe I am the SK? I don't think I am. I haven't shot anyone all game... except for Insomniac. Sorry about that Insomniac, no hard feelings?
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1161 on: February 03, 2013, 10:18:26 pm »

Cuzz isn't the SK. At least I dont' think he is. Maybe I am the SK? I don't think I am. I haven't shot anyone all game... except for Insomniac. Sorry about that Insomniac, no hard feelings?

yuma, here's the thing--I know how much you hate my playstyle sometimes, and would argue that I don't help town when I go full-on emotional argument.

If you are wrongly-framed or fatefully unfortunate town here, acting crazy isn't helping anyone.  Give some real reads, some real ideas, and in the end, at least we'll have something useful remaining after you are gone.

If you are caught-scum, which is much, much, much more likely, keep up the trolling!
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1162 on: February 03, 2013, 10:24:17 pm »

Cuzz isn't the SK. At least I dont' think he is. Maybe I am the SK? I don't think I am. I haven't shot anyone all game... except for Insomniac. Sorry about that Insomniac, no hard feelings?

yuma, here's the thing--I know how much you hate my playstyle sometimes, and would argue that I don't help town when I go full-on emotional argument.

If you are wrongly-framed or fatefully unfortunate town here, acting crazy isn't helping anyone.  Give some real reads, some real ideas, and in the end, at least we'll have something useful remaining after you are gone.

If you are caught-scum, which is much, much, much more likely, keep up the trolling!

I will give you a list of things that I know:

1. I am not part of the scum team

2. I am not the serial killer

3. I do not know who the scum players are, nor do they know who/what I am... I am betting that they are really happy with the way things are turning out.

4. I have a scum read on Cuzz and if we want to hit scum, we should lynch him, but that is just a read and isn't a guarantee.

5. It is in town's best interest to not lynch me.

The above five things I swear on my integrity as a mafia player. Even if you don't believe me you will see after the game that I have been truthful in this regard...
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« Reply #1163 on: February 04, 2013, 12:39:19 am »

Hey guys. Been VLA and not totally caught up, but I see I've been asked to claim and based on Eevee's result I suppose I should.

I am a Vig (X-shot given funding)

I did not shoot N1. I tried to shoot Insomniac last night and failed apparently. This should explain my quickhammer of Robz after his claim and my strong suspicion of Dsell after his claim. I found 2 town vigs to be unlikely, and Dsell's claim seemed very convenient given the way Eevee revealed that info. Eevee's explanation of the town read on Dsell started to make sense to me though, so I got convinced that multiple vigs was plausible and dropped my suspicions.
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« Reply #1164 on: February 04, 2013, 12:44:49 am »

Hey guys. Been VLA and not totally caught up, but I see I've been asked to claim and based on Eevee's result I suppose I should.

I am a Vig (X-shot given funding)

I did not shoot N1. I tried to shoot Insomniac last night and failed apparently. This should explain my quickhammer of Robz after his claim and my strong suspicion of Dsell after his claim. I found 2 town vigs to be unlikely, and Dsell's claim seemed very convenient given the way Eevee revealed that info. Eevee's explanation of the town read on Dsell started to make sense to me though, so I got convinced that multiple vigs was plausible and dropped my suspicions.

Cuzz sets up the Cuzz vs. Dsell showdown.

So one is scum, the other really is the vig.  Nothing to prove either one's innocence...Eevee, what do we do?
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« Reply #1165 on: February 04, 2013, 01:11:41 am »

Well, of course I believe that it's extremely likely that Cuzz is lying, but probably the best bet is to let me shoot him tonight rather than lynching either of us tonight.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1166 on: February 04, 2013, 01:15:37 am »

Well, of course I believe that it's extremely likely that Cuzz is lying, but probably the best bet is to let me shoot him tonight rather than lynching either of us tonight.

I think yuma's still on tap for lynching today, unless we're feeling differently.  Dsell, will you confirm you will let town direct your shot?
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1167 on: February 04, 2013, 01:16:01 am »

Cuzz, would you confirm that you will let town direct your shot?
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1168 on: February 04, 2013, 01:19:48 am »

Cuzz, would you confirm that you will let town direct your shot?

If by town you mean conftown then surely.
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« Reply #1169 on: February 04, 2013, 01:50:57 am »

Well, of course I believe that it's extremely likely that Cuzz is lying, but probably the best bet is to let me shoot him tonight rather than lynching either of us tonight.

I think yuma's still on tap for lynching today, unless we're feeling differently.  Dsell, will you confirm you will let town direct your shot?

Yes, definitely. But the confirmed town right now is like...Eevee and nobody else. Lekkit is probtown I think but I'll be deferring to Eevee. FWIW, I very strongly think I should shoot Cuzz.

There is actually one more aspect of my power that I should claim now in case I'm not around when people are trying to figure out the night action puzzle tomorrow. When I shoot someone, I roleblock them for the night as well. It is strange, I know, and it actually means that Cuzz was double roleblocked last night. This is obviously quite good if I shoot scum and obviously doubly bad if I shoot town, but in case I die, it's important to have that bit of info.
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« Reply #1170 on: February 04, 2013, 01:52:40 am »

Oh, I just realized that since Cuzz was jailkept, my roleblock technically did not have effect. But since he was still roleblocked (by the jailkeeper), it's all same in practice. Details. :P
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1171 on: February 04, 2013, 02:08:00 am »

Well, of course I believe that it's extremely likely that Cuzz is lying, but probably the best bet is to let me shoot him tonight rather than lynching either of us tonight.

I think yuma's still on tap for lynching today, unless we're feeling differently.  Dsell, will you confirm you will let town direct your shot?

Yes, definitely. But the confirmed town right now is like...Eevee and nobody else. Lekkit is probtown I think but I'll be deferring to Eevee. FWIW, I very strongly think I should shoot Cuzz.

There is actually one more aspect of my power that I should claim now in case I'm not around when people are trying to figure out the night action puzzle tomorrow. When I shoot someone, I roleblock them for the night as well. It is strange, I know, and it actually means that Cuzz was double roleblocked last night. This is obviously quite good if I shoot scum and obviously doubly bad if I shoot town, but in case I die, it's important to have that bit of info.

For both of you I meant Eevee directing, yes.

If Dsell is telling the truth, it's verifiable by having him kill Cuzz.  He could still be SK, of course.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1172 on: February 04, 2013, 02:31:51 am »

Well, it's still possible both are scum of either variety (leaning mafia myself), but this is easy. Both should just shoot each other, obviously. No way in seven hells both are town!

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« Reply #1173 on: February 04, 2013, 02:39:27 am »

If I may, I'm not comfortable with ending the day until I've been able to review all claims and night action claims again. I would love to discover some more bits that can help us put the pieces together, and of course it will be too late if I am killed tonight. But I won't be able to do that until sometime tomorrow (later on Monday) at the earliest. Beware of quickhammerers! And don't let yuma get to L-1 because he would hammer himself as scum.
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Re: Role Madness VI: Mafia Noir - Home of the only TRUE Mafia: (Day 3 Begins!)
« Reply #1174 on: February 04, 2013, 02:40:44 am »

vote: Yuma

Support Eevee leading town now, and full claims tomorrow.  Agree Dsell shoots Cuzz, Cuzz attempts to shoo Dsell.
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