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[ashersky]

vote: andrew

[yuma]

Also this won't verify to others that Arch is town (as we very well might only have 1 mafia) but if we have two it should pretty much make him the confirmed town that I strongly believe him to be. If he isn't and he hammers w/o waiting for the go ahead then I have completely and totally misread the entire game (not likely)...

[Archetype]

Also this won't verify to others that Arch is town (as we very well might only have 1 mafia) but if we have two it should pretty much make him the confirmed town that I strongly believe him to be. If he isn't and he hammers w/o waiting for the go ahead then I have completely and totally misread the entire game (not likely)...

Don't worry, I'm Town. I believe you to be Town, but you can never be too careful. Why do you want people to vote now?

[ashersky]

Anything else you want from us?

I mean, you knew I preferred Andrew.  I'm not lynching either of you two today.  I'd only lynch Jimmmmm (today) if it was him or me.

[yuma]

Also this won't verify to others that Arch is town (as we very well might only have 1 mafia) but if we have two it should pretty much make him the confirmed town that I strongly believe him to be. If he isn't and he hammers w/o waiting for the go ahead then I have completely and totally misread the entire game (not likely)...

Don't worry, I'm Town. I believe you to be Town, but you can never be too careful. Why do you want people to vote now?

If only Jimmmmm, ash and Andrew vote they can't reach a lynch. I am wanting people to put their vote where their mouth is (is that the right phrasing). If you and I don't vote for a bit then we will be ok.

What is your schedule like Arch? There a few things I want to talk over with you... back and forth style. Will you be around during the weekend? I am kinda off for a bit but will be around more tomorrow morning (I imagine you will be in school tomorrow morning).

[AndrewisFTTW]

I'm all in for an ash lynch.

vote: ash

[ashersky]

I'm all in for an ash lynch.

vote: ash

I disagree.  I think you should vote for Andrew.

[Archetype]

Also this won't verify to others that Arch is town (as we very well might only have 1 mafia) but if we have two it should pretty much make him the confirmed town that I strongly believe him to be. If he isn't and he hammers w/o waiting for the go ahead then I have completely and totally misread the entire game (not likely)...

Don't worry, I'm Town. I believe you to be Town, but you can never be too careful. Why do you want people to vote now?

If only Jimmmmm, ash and Andrew vote they can't reach a lynch. I am wanting people to put their vote where their mouth is (is that the right phrasing). If you and I don't vote for a bit then we will be ok.

What is your schedule like Arch? There a few things I want to talk over with you... back and forth style. Will you be around during the weekend? I am kinda off for a bit but will be around more tomorrow morning (I imagine you will be in school tomorrow morning).

I meant why should I take the chance with you. I mean, it's super unlikely that you'd be scum, but it just seems unsafe to take that risk.

I should be free tommorow night and most of Saturday.

[ashersky]

I meant why should I take the chance with you. I mean, it's super unlikely that you'd be scum, but it just seems unsafe to take that risk.

I get Arch's point here.  If yuma is scum, we're just giving him the hammer.  If yuma/arch is the scum team, we are giving them the hammer.

At some point, we bet the game on our reads, and what we know, though.

[yuma]

I meant why should I take the chance with you. I mean, it's super unlikely that you'd be scum, but it just seems unsafe to take that risk.

I should be free tommorow night and most of Saturday.

I get that. But at some point in the game you have to start making assumptions, and I think this is a very solid assumption that you are making, yes?. I am working based on the idea that you are assuming that I am town going forward.

If you don't think this, or if you feel that you need more time to think things through, then we should slow down, but I was under the impression feeling that you (and everyone else) were ready to go and only my reread was holding everyone up.

[yuma]

Request a prod on Jimmmmm please

[mail-mi]

Request a prod on Jimmmmm please

Prod sent

[Jimmmmm]

Huh, didn't realise I hadn't posted in so long. Almost voted for Andrew, but realised I should re-read him and ash first before I vote when I get a chance.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Alright so this is kinda dead right now. I guess I'll use this time to do some more rereading.

[Archetype]

I meant why should I take the chance with you. I mean, it's super unlikely that you'd be scum, but it just seems unsafe to take that risk.

I should be free tommorow night and most of Saturday.

I get that. But at some point in the game you have to start making assumptions, and I think this is a very solid assumption that you are making, yes?. I am working based on the idea that you are assuming that I am town going forward.

If you don't think this, or if you feel that you need more time to think things through, then we should slow down, but I was under the impression feeling that you (and everyone else) were ready to go and only my reread was holding everyone up.

I think you're the most likely to be Town out of everyone else, but the way you jumped right into it after being strict about people not voting made me sort of uneasy.

[yuma]

Well that was mostly because I realized that if neither of us voted (and if we are both town, which we are) then there was no risk of a quickhammer, so my worry about votes wasn't warranted.

I am still kinda waiting for Jimmmmm to vote until I proceed with what I want to do. Not necessarily a rush Jimmmmm, take your time coming to the vote that you want to cast... It was just that I thought Jimmmmm had already decided and was waiting for the go ahead to vote.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Possibly dumb question: is no lynch an option today?

[AndrewisFTTW]

Nevermind. Dumb question.

[Jorbles]

Vote Count 4.4

AndrewisFTTW (1): ashersky
ashersky (1): AndrewisFTTW

Not Voting (5): Archetype, Jimmmmm, yuma

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 4 ends on May 8 at 11 o'clock PM FT.

In the event of a hammer this weekend I will be in and out all weekend. Not sure about mail-mi's availability. There may be twilight.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I'm predicting an ash Jimm scum team. Jimm still hasn't flavor claimed and here are his claimed night actions:

Jimmmmm - ? - Tracker
N1 - Tracked shraeye - nobody
N2 - Tracked Witherweaver - targeted Andrew
N3 - Tracked Arch - nobody

N1 he supposedly tracked shraeye (commuter). N2 he supposedly tracked WW (potential scum partner), N3 he tracked Arch. Why would you track Arch when he already claimed to have protected yuma on N1?

[AndrewisFTTW]

So very suspicious and convenient night actions. Combine that with a complete lack of interaction with WW besides a little bit on D2 and I think I'm more comfortable voting Jimm.

vote: Jimm

[yuma]

I kinda doubt that Jimmmm is going to be the lynch today, Andrew. For me it is down to choosing between you and ash. I am leaning a certain way but I won't say which way yet.

[AndrewisFTTW]

What do you think of his claimed night actions? We did the mass claim for this reason, so we could catch somebody in a lie.

[yuma]

What do you think of his claimed night actions? We did the mass claim for this reason, so we could catch somebody in a lie.

I think his has the problem of being unverifiable (although the point about him correctly getting how Arch's role works is a point in his favor, even if it is probably a bit obvious, but still...) compared to everyone else.

But unverifiability itself isn't scummy. We did claim to see if we could catch someone in a lie, but he hasn't been caught in a lie. I kinda get the concern about tracking Arch... It is actually a really great track. Because if Arch targeted anyone on night3 then he is probably scum! Arch would have been caught in a lie. You suspected Arch coming into today why shouldn't Jimmmmm have as well?

[AndrewisFTTW]

There's nothing wrong with suspecting Arch. But I thought Seraph Knight was you target somebody N1 and that's that. Here's what I found on mafiascum:

"The Seraph Knight is a role that may only choose one target at Night throughout the entire game. From then until either the Seraph Knight or its target dies, the target is protected from all kills made against them."

Sorry if you guys discussed this already, I must've missed that. So I guess Arch can only target one person but he has to target that person every night?