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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1425 on: April 18, 2014, 03:59:08 am »

Awesome!

Massclaim? I think TA is more likely Town than Yuma, so he should lead it, but I wouldn't care if it was co-lead.

How in the world can you think that?

TA has basically claimed role or flavor cop (not the townist role in the world, but certainly townier than some here). I am a confirmed dayvig and am claiming to have shot WW last night.

I was a vig of all trades having both a dayvig and a night. I didn't shoot night1.
You could still be a SK.

I find TA townier, but like I said I really don't care since you both are practically ICs at this point.

So could TA or has he been cleared of being the SK somehow?
What kind of SK is also a Thief?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1426 on: April 18, 2014, 04:08:54 am »


TA is cleared.

out with what you have to say. stop beating around the bush...
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1427 on: April 18, 2014, 04:11:57 am »

Awesome!

Massclaim? I think TA is more likely Town than Yuma, so he should lead it, but I wouldn't care if it was co-lead.

How in the world can you think that?

TA has basically claimed role or flavor cop (not the townist role in the world, but certainly townier than some here). I am a confirmed dayvig and am claiming to have shot WW last night.

I was a vig of all trades having both a dayvig and a night. I didn't shoot night1.
You could still be a SK.

I find TA townier, but like I said I really don't care since you both are practically ICs at this point.

So could TA or has he been cleared of being the SK somehow?
What kind of SK is also a Thief?
what kind of SK is also a dayvig?

there aren't set rules for what can or can'y be a sk.... so don't pretend there are. and why is he a thief? did he claim thief? I had nothing stolen from me... I am not saying he is a sk, but he has a far better chance of being mafia than me (still not high, but higher than me) and finding mafia is our focus right now
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1428 on: April 18, 2014, 04:24:10 am »


TA is cleared.

out with what you have to say. stop beating around the bush...

I can confirm everything TA has claimed.  He's the only IC around (to me).  Since Andrew blocked me last night, I've got nothing new to add.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1429 on: April 18, 2014, 04:44:45 am »

I sent my message to xeiron, btw.

I find this suspect.... why to xeiron when you could have sent it to ta or me?

Because I have a strong town read on him and the twist of my power makes it less desirable to target you (I think; I might try it next night) In retrospect, TA would have been a better target, but nobody's perfect.

I think his getting targeted prompted that flavor thing, whatever it was. Xeiron, are you here?
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1430 on: April 18, 2014, 04:48:24 am »


Xeiron stumbles of of his tent, looking very pale and sickly. "My dagger," he mumbles. "Where is my dagger?"

This is not good.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1431 on: April 18, 2014, 04:55:44 am »

Massclaim is good. I'll claim last, because I already claimed partly, okay?

you don't get to decide when/if we claim or when you claim.... I DO.....

Yeah, I get that. I wasn't stating some immutable fact about what we'll do, just that I think mass claim is a good idea (do you think giving opinions is anti-town?) and that I think it would be a good idea for me to claim last. I'm not trying to steal your authority,  so stop taking so much offense at people giving suggestions. You're one of the people with the LEAST information, you know?

I support lynching ashersky. He still is acting really scummily. Sheeping general fearmongering without a vote doesn't speak good about your alignment. vote: ash

Xeiron, if you would kindly confirm to everyone that you received a message from me, that would be nice of you.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1432 on: April 18, 2014, 04:57:39 am »

Huzzah!!!

My other shot worked!!! I feel so justified once again.

We have some good stuff to analyze now that we know people were given a choice between a known town and a known mafia...

Feeling much better about this game now! But I was really worried I would hit town again...

xeiron you ok man?

Well, I am evidently still alive, but no, everything is not OK.
I think a Yuma led massclaim is in order today. I will elaborate more on this matter then.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1433 on: April 18, 2014, 05:03:44 am »

Massclaim is good. I'll claim last, because I already claimed partly, okay?

you don't get to decide when/if we claim or when you claim.... I DO.....

Yeah, I get that. I wasn't stating some immutable fact about what we'll do, just that I think mass claim is a good idea (do you think giving opinions is anti-town?) and that I think it would be a good idea for me to claim last. I'm not trying to steal your authority,  so stop taking so much offense at people giving suggestions. You're one of the people with the LEAST information, you know?

I support lynching ashersky. He still is acting really scummily. Sheeping general fearmongering without a vote doesn't speak good about your alignment. vote: ash

Xeiron, if you would kindly confirm to everyone that you received a message from me, that would be nice of you.

I confirm that I received a message from Xerxes.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1434 on: April 18, 2014, 05:31:07 am »

Awesome!

Massclaim? I think TA is more likely Town than Yuma, so he should lead it, but I wouldn't care if it was co-lead.

How in the world can you think that?

TA has basically claimed role or flavor cop (not the townist role in the world, but certainly townier than some here). I am a confirmed dayvig and am claiming to have shot WW last night.

I was a vig of all trades having both a dayvig and a night. I didn't shoot night1.
You could still be a SK.

I find TA townier, but like I said I really don't care since you both are practically ICs at this point.

TAs result on Yuma pretty much confirms Yumas flavorclaim, and Aviendha is not a flavor that fits for a SK.

So yuma is IC. Not sure if the same can be said for TA.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1435 on: April 18, 2014, 07:22:03 am »

Reads:
Andrew: scum is unlikely to have a doctor, and the claim seems to check out. Still scum points from before, though. Null
Yuma: IC
Ash: hasn't done anything towny and has done more scummy things since yesterday. We need to lynch him.
Xeiron: Very strong town read, based on what happened last night. (WIFOM is possible) Everyone else, why would the mod out scum?
TA: apparently there's a reason everyone thinks he's town. I trust the public on this sort of thing

Jimmm + Archetype: scum gut reads


The only people I'm willing to lynch are Jimmm, Archetype, and Ash, who's my preferred lynch.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1436 on: April 18, 2014, 09:20:17 am »

Xeiron, do you think xerxes is a town mailman or a scum mailman?

Him not sending Yuma a letter as scum makes sense if scum knew they were shooting Yuma. (Which would seem to make sense given Andrews action and the missing nk)
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1437 on: April 18, 2014, 09:20:49 am »

I do agree with what xerxes says about xeiron, though.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1438 on: April 18, 2014, 09:22:10 am »

Awesome!

Massclaim? I think TA is more likely Town than Yuma, so he should lead it, but I wouldn't care if it was co-lead.

How in the world can you think that?

TA has basically claimed role or flavor cop (not the townist role in the world, but certainly townier than some here). I am a confirmed dayvig and am claiming to have shot WW last night.

I was a vig of all trades having both a dayvig and a night. I didn't shoot night1.
You could still be a SK.

I find TA townier, but like I said I really don't care since you both are practically ICs at this point.

So could TA or has he been cleared of being the SK somehow?
What kind of SK is also a Thief?
what kind of SK is also a dayvig?

there aren't set rules for what can or can'y be a sk.... so don't pretend there are. and why is he a thief? did he claim thief? I had nothing stolen from me... I am not saying he is a sk, but he has a far better chance of being mafia than me (still not high, but higher than me) and finding mafia is our focus right now
Dayvig could be a SK power easily. SK with a 1-shot Dayvig isn't unreasonable. To be a Theif, something doesn't have to be stolen from you. A Thief is a flavor cop that gets told what item someone has..which is exactly what TA found out about you.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1439 on: April 18, 2014, 09:28:44 am »

vote: arch

Two reasons:

1) sk speculation on Yuma.
2) his views on me. Yes my role is confirmed. But to a town member that shouldn't confirm my alignment and he's treating it like it does. It seems more like he's scum who knows for sure I am town and therefore is treating it like fact.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1440 on: April 18, 2014, 11:16:03 am »

Yeah maybe a mass claim would be best. A mass flavor claim at least.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1441 on: April 18, 2014, 12:21:31 pm »

So I am still thinking about claiming and will setup an order if it gets to that point...

Right now I am far more interested in looking back at WW his interactions and especially how people reacted to my suggestion that he be a possible dayvig target yesterday...

I think we need to get that done before we mass claim, otherwise I fear it will never get done. I am going to do it myself, but I really hope others will join me in this quest to find stuff before I post my thoughts because I would like to see what people 1. find and 2. are willing to say on their own w/o my thoughts coming first.

If we mass claim that will happen in ~5 days. It won't happen before then. We will have a fair amount of time after mass claiming to get a good lynch. So do some rereading, look for patterns and behaviors and let us know what you find. Basically I would vastly prefer to lynch someone because of interactions (or lack thereof) with WW then I would because of flavor implications.

And if we find some really good stuff we probably won't mass claim until potentially tomorrow...
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1442 on: April 18, 2014, 12:29:58 pm »

Yeah let's do that. However, I probably wont be able to do today. Maybe tomorrow though. I'm out of town for another 8 or 9 days.
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« Reply #1443 on: April 18, 2014, 12:40:05 pm »

Annoyingly enough, the people who looked scummiest were TA and xeiron, who are both very strong town reads. Jimmm looks the foamiest of ash, archetype,  and him.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1444 on: April 18, 2014, 12:40:28 pm »

*towniest
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1445 on: April 18, 2014, 01:31:03 pm »

Xeiron, do you think xerxes is a town mailman or a scum mailman?

Him not sending Yuma a letter as scum makes sense if scum knew they were shooting Yuma. (Which would seem to make sense given Andrews action and the missing nk)

I am leaning town on xerxes, but it is a weak read.
I agree that it is a bit odd of him to choose me. I think I would have chosen to send mail to Andrew. We need someone to target him if we want a doctor.
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« Reply #1446 on: April 18, 2014, 02:19:27 pm »

Oops, I forgot something.  Only a normal town read on xeiron, now.

How exactly does Andrew's power work? I don't get it.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1447 on: April 18, 2014, 02:29:19 pm »

Xeiron, do you think xerxes is a town mailman or a scum mailman?

Him not sending Yuma a letter as scum makes sense if scum knew they were shooting Yuma. (Which would seem to make sense given Andrews action and the missing nk)

I am leaning town on xerxes, but it is a weak read.
I agree that it is a bit odd of him to choose me. I think I would have chosen to send mail to Andrew. We need someone to target him if we want a doctor.

I don't know what you mean by this.
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Re: RMM13: Wheel of Time Mafia! (Day 2 start!)
« Reply #1448 on: April 18, 2014, 02:31:25 pm »

Xeiron, do you think xerxes is a town mailman or a scum mailman?

Him not sending Yuma a letter as scum makes sense if scum knew they were shooting Yuma. (Which would seem to make sense given Andrews action and the missing nk)

I am leaning town on xerxes, but it is a weak read.
I agree that it is a bit odd of him to choose me. I think I would have chosen to send mail to Andrew. We need someone to target him if we want a doctor.

I don't know what you mean by this.

In his claim, he was both RB and doc only if targeted that night.
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« Reply #1449 on: April 18, 2014, 02:48:53 pm »

Oh, right. I thought he just got to choose one, but I remember that now.
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