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Leo1997

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International Dominion Team World Cup
« on: July 24, 2013, 07:01:00 am »
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In our german forum (dominionblog.de) we have had the idea to play a tournament against a over nation. So my question is, are here any players who are interested in this? From France, UK, USA, or other countries?


Please write your ideas about a tournament like this in this topic.


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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 07:54:55 am »
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I think we could get a team from Finland, maybe? Ratsia, Awaclus, myself?
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 10:51:52 am »
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Here is our idea for the modus.


Every nation look for a players wanting to play a match.
Aftherthan the players get numbers.
And then Player 1 from Nation A plays against Player 1 from Nation B, player 2 from Nation A plays against Player 2 from Nation B.


What are your thinkings about this?
Have you better ideas?
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 10:57:51 am »
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Are you suggesting an online tournament or live?

If online count me in (I'm Dutch).
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 11:04:35 am »
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Oh, that is fine.

Are there some other Dutch players interested, too?
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 11:09:09 am »
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Are you suggesting an online tournament or live?

If online count me in (I'm Dutch).

It will be online.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 11:29:57 am »
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This sounds like it has the potential to be pretty sweet. 

An idea for format would be to have 3-4 players per team.  For each match, each player could play a set number of games against each player on the opposing nations team.  Points could go 1 for win, 1/2 for draw, 0 for loss.  When every player has played his games against the other opponents, the higher scored team moves on.  It could be single elimination for the Nation against Nation match, but more swiss style in the individual player matches.

I could be interested, but don't know about time considerations to do this.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 11:48:02 am »
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whats about you shark_bait

Could you organize a US Team?
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2013, 11:55:15 am »
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I think you could get some national captains to pick the teams but put some basic criteria in place to make sure the selections are not contentious. I'd play. Any competitive Dominion is good.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2013, 12:14:11 pm »
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I'd play but if it's all of the USA there are better reps than me.  Given that there are so many USA residents on the board, it might be best to go by regions. (NW/SW/SE/NE)
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 12:21:56 pm »
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im interested in playing for the US, but im sure there are plenty of better players than me in my country. i peaked on goko at ~6300 last week but have loss a lot of games recently
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 12:24:07 pm »
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/in for UK if we have enough players.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 12:24:31 pm »
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Hello everyone!
I am a German dominion player and I came up with the idea to have some national competition. In all the tournaments I missed the possibility to play in a team. After some thoughts I’ve got a concept in mind which is quite similar to the concept of the Davis-/Fed-Cup in tennis.
Let me explain:
Each Nation creates it’s own team.
The match against the other Nation consists of five 1on1s, best of 5 (number of 1on1s is arguably, but ideally it should be an uneven number). In the first game the starting player will be determined randomly, in the other games the starting player will be the one who lost the previous game. A draw doesn’t count and the game will be repeated with the identical starting player. Which Nation wins more 1on1s wins the match. There is the possibility to play an even number of 1on1s and in case of a draw the Nation with the better win/lose ratio wins. If even the win/lose ratio is identical, each Nation nominates a player for a deciding best of 5 1on1. Maybe one player plays two 1on1s to get an uneven number.
How determine who plays who? Each Nation seeds it’s players based on the game number and sends the seeding list to a neutral person via PN who posts the lineups. Example:
Game 1: German player A
Game 2: German player B
Game 3: German player C

Game 1: Dutch player X
Game 2: Dutch player Y
Game 3: Dutch player Z
So German player A plays against Dutch player X…
For now I don’t have a whole tournament in mind. First it should be tested if this concept has potential and most important makes fun.
What do you think? Comments and improvement suggestions are welcome.


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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 01:16:04 pm »
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/in for UK if we have enough players.

If it happens any time soon then I'm probably away.  If it ends up taking off in September then I'd be available.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 01:22:06 pm »
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I'd play but if it's all of the USA there are better reps than me.  Given that there are so many USA residents on the board, it might be best to go by regions. (NW/SW/SE/NE)
Can we force the Dutch to be in regions, too? WITHOUT regions, I don't know that US has so much advantage (though more overall players, I grant), and I would seed something like:

1.Netherlands
2.US
3.UK
4.Sweden
5.Germany
...and everyone else. I could easily see any of the above winning.

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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 01:26:52 pm »
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Mixing in some 4-player matches--2 players from each country in the matchup--would really be interesting.  It would give it a "Ryder Cup"-like feel, where the players participate in formats different from (but including) straight 2-player.  When the 4-player games happen, I imagine that some quite unique tactics might develop regarding attacking, defending, etc.  The turn order would alternate countries; teammates would not "sit" next to each other. 

Scoring here could be either team total victory points or by individual, and then results for the overall matchup could be calibrated accordingly.  (So perhaps a full point is awarded to the team if the 4-player matchup is scored as team total victory points, or a half point is awarded to each of 1st place and 2nd place if the players are scored individually.)  Obviously I don't have the details worked out, but if the Team World Cup were truly to emphasize creativity and skill *as a team*, then it should include some 4-player matchups in my opinion.  So every team member would partake in 1-on-1 matchups with a player from the other country (as outlined in the earlier posts), and then there are, say, four 4-player matchups (or something like that).

The total team performance--in both 2- and 4-player games--determines which team wins the overall matchup.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 03:33:52 pm »
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I'm from Denmark, and I would love to participate, but I don't think I've seen any other danes on this forum.
If anyone from Denmark is reading this, please let me know.
Otherwise I know a few players irl that I probably could get to participate with me.

There should probably be some rules about how much it's allowed to talk with your team mates during the matches.

For the competition layout, I would suggest that each team has 3 players in every match, and it should be allowed to change players between matches. Each of the 3 players will in a match play against each of the opponents. That way you don't need to rank the players, and a team match is best of 9.

It would be fun with 4 player matches with 2 from each team too. If that happens I think the victory points of the team mates should be added to get a team total victory points, and then compared with the other team to find the winner of the doubles match.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 03:35:06 pm »
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/in for UK if we have enough players.

If it happens any time soon then I'm probably away.  If it ends up taking off in September then I'd be available.
Ditto for me.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2013, 03:35:35 pm »
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I'd play but if it's all of the USA there are better reps than me.  Given that there are so many USA residents on the board, it might be best to go by regions. (NW/SW/SE/NE)
Can we force the Dutch to be in regions, too? WITHOUT regions, I don't know that US has so much advantage (though more overall players, I grant), and I would seed something like:

1.Netherlands
2.US
3.UK
4.Sweden
5.Germany
...and everyone else. I could easily see any of the above winning.
Well, if I'm part of team Orange, your odds will probably increase immensely. ;D
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2013, 03:48:31 pm »
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With the number of players at each team i propose this: Each team has a defined number of members (5 or 7). Nations with more players may make more teams, if they are enough for a complete new team. I would also say, that two small nations which can not make their own team can have a mix-team, if there are enough members of each nation (depending on the number of players at each team I would say at least 2 or 3).
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2013, 03:51:02 pm »
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You could split U.S. by region if need be. Like West Coast, East Cost, and The Rest, if you like.

I would play, /in.
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2013, 06:25:02 pm »
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4 player matches arent a great idea, i think.

Why more teams in some countries. First let look for until 11 players per countrie, if there are more, what is about a national tournament to find the best of them?
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2013, 12:08:52 am »
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I think the problem with many players in a team is, that other players of other teams have to play more often, which can be difficult for them to find the time. But they have also a big advantage. If Stef makes a team with him as only member I think he will win ;-)
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2013, 03:26:24 am »
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i´d play too. I´m German but i dont know how many Germans allready are interested and how its decided who is in the team?

how about differenciate between east-germany and West-Germany  ;) (just kidding)
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Re: International Dominion Team World Cup
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2013, 04:27:36 am »
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I suppose I should throw my hat into the ring for U.S. (southwest/west coast if we end up with multiple teams).
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