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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1200 on: June 11, 2013, 10:20:22 pm »

Yeah seriously. Lets do a soft deadline.

8:30 pm on Friday work?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1201 on: June 11, 2013, 10:21:45 pm »

I keep going back to the lovercop role.

There HAVE to be other couples.

And there HAVE to be scum in those couples, what good is a role that only catches town couples, right?

This keeps bringing me back to Sudgy..

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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1202 on: June 11, 2013, 10:27:25 pm »

I keep going back to the lovercop role.

There HAVE to be other couples.

And there HAVE to be scum in those couples, what good is a role that only catches town couples, right?

This keeps bringing me back to Sudgy..
Maybe the lovers were determined randomly, just like in Masons and Monks, when being scum and being a monk/mason were independent of each other probability-wise.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1203 on: June 11, 2013, 10:29:06 pm »

No, I don't think so in an RMM game. They're pretty well planned for balance, I'd imagine, and I doubt it would be left up to probability. There's a rhyme and a reason for everything..
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1204 on: June 11, 2013, 10:30:12 pm »

That being said, I'm ready to vote Sudgy. I just can't see him being town.. It would be L-1, though.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1205 on: June 11, 2013, 10:33:26 pm »

What's wrong with ehfw, ta?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1206 on: June 11, 2013, 10:35:49 pm »

I think EFHW is most likely to be the second scum, I really do. Like I said, I have a scum read.

My scum read from EFHW and Sudgy are coming from two different places -- I think Sudgy's scummy cause of setup speculation, and EFHW from reads and gameplay. I guess I should be wary about voting someone from setup speculation, but man I can't see any instance where Sudgy's not scum or at least the lover of a scum.

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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1207 on: June 11, 2013, 10:38:24 pm »

I also think that it's weird that Sudgy IS still alive. If the kill's missing as mail-mi claims, I have some idea where it went, but missing on Sudgy isn't one of those places. I guess scum could have avoided him as they were wary of a doctor, though.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1208 on: June 11, 2013, 10:41:52 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1209 on: June 11, 2013, 10:44:18 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1210 on: June 11, 2013, 10:46:13 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You are worrying me with this!

I do think EFHW's play is scummier, but I've been wrong with my reads before, too/ I think she's scum, but I don't KNOW she's scum. If I think Sudgy is more likely scum due to the setup, then I'll vote him.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1211 on: June 11, 2013, 10:46:45 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1212 on: June 11, 2013, 10:47:28 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You are worrying me with this!

I do think EFHW's play is scummier, but I've been wrong with my reads before, too/ I think she's scum, but I don't KNOW she's scum. If I think Sudgy is more likely scum due to the setup, then I'll vote him.
I'm saying I'm pretty sure that's not the case!
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1213 on: June 11, 2013, 10:50:32 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Do you think he's town, or do you know he's town?

Take a minute to think about whether or not this is worth it to claim if you KNOW he's town. I think it's worth it though, as claiming cop / lover / something else gives enough leeway that you're not exposing your role completely, but at the same time, it's not as big of a deal to say that since scum would already know you're a power role.

Let me know if this makes sense before you answer thoguh!
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1214 on: June 11, 2013, 10:51:09 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Like you would in every other game under the sun when you don't have a fancy-dancy power.  Good gravy, Eevee, are you being this difficult on purpose or is me telling you not to claim really that confusing?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1215 on: June 11, 2013, 10:53:13 pm »

I think I know I can deduct he is likely to be town. Like way enough to not make him our best lynch.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1216 on: June 11, 2013, 10:53:50 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Like you would in every other game under the sun when you don't have a fancy-dancy power.  Good gravy, Eevee, are you being this difficult on purpose or is me telling you not to claim really that confusing?
How about you stop trying to lynch poor sudgy?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1217 on: June 11, 2013, 10:55:17 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Like you would in every other game under the sun when you don't have a fancy-dancy power.  Good gravy, Eevee, are you being this difficult on purpose or is me telling you not to claim really that confusing?
How about you stop trying to lynch poor sudgy?

No, I think either he and/or his lover is scum.  Way more than I think EFHW is.  You're being difficult, fuzzball.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1218 on: June 11, 2013, 10:55:46 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Like you would in every other game under the sun when you don't have a fancy-dancy power.  Good gravy, Eevee, are you being this difficult on purpose or is me telling you not to claim really that confusing?
How about you stop trying to lynch poor sudgy?
How bout you stop buddying up to him and actually tell us why the town read?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1219 on: June 11, 2013, 10:56:11 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Like you would in every other game under the sun when you don't have a fancy-dancy power.  Good gravy, Eevee, are you being this difficult on purpose or is me telling you not to claim really that confusing?
How about you stop trying to lynch poor sudgy?

"I have a town read because he did X, he said Y, he didn't do Z".

But the fact that you've said none of this has made it very clear that it's not a read, but information, that's made you think Sudgy is town. So I think we have our answer, Raerae
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1220 on: June 11, 2013, 10:58:47 pm »

If you think ehfw's play is scummier, just vote for her!

You still haven't explained your townread on sudgy other than it's a "gut read."  And before you say it, NO! I am not telling you to claim, I just want you to explain your read.
You really might be telling me to claim though. Hypothetically I'm a cop and investigated sudgy, how would you have me explain it?

Like you would in every other game under the sun when you don't have a fancy-dancy power.  Good gravy, Eevee, are you being this difficult on purpose or is me telling you not to claim really that confusing?
How about you stop trying to lynch poor sudgy?

"I have a town read because he did X, he said Y, he didn't do Z".

But the fact that you've said none of this has made it very clear that it's not a read, but information, that's made you think Sudgy is town. So I think we have our answer, Raerae

Anybody could say what Eevee is saying right now regardless of alignment or information.  Fake is pretty damn easy to pull off.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1221 on: June 11, 2013, 11:01:31 pm »

And now I am more sure of my vote on Eevee.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1222 on: June 11, 2013, 11:02:37 pm »

I have information, i don't want to claim what it is. it makes me think sudgy is town.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1223 on: June 11, 2013, 11:02:58 pm »

If Sudgy is scum, there's NO way scum!Eevee would do this, though
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act II)
« Reply #1224 on: June 11, 2013, 11:03:53 pm »

I think it's almost always scummy to pressure other people to vote a certain way. 
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