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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #525 on: June 05, 2013, 08:14:02 pm »

We have 25 minutes until the soft deadline.  I will vote (tomorrow) anybody who isn't voting by 8:30 who is on here.

This is the reason I am trying the popular easy lynch.

Elaborate, please? Because you think Sudgy's scummy for this? What do you mean?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #526 on: June 05, 2013, 08:15:24 pm »

I think it's pretty clearly either sudgy or Xeiron today. Anyone disagree?

Lio is still on two votes.  I'd rather lynch Lio than Xeiron.  I would also consider raerae.

What about Xeiron makes you think he's more likely to be town than scum?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #527 on: June 05, 2013, 08:15:47 pm »

I think it's pretty clearly either sudgy or Xeiron today. Anyone disagree?

Lio is still on two votes.  I'd rather lynch Lio than Xeiron.  I would also consider raerae.

What about Xeiron makes you think he's more likely to be town than scum?
(or at least not one of your top 3 scum reads)
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #528 on: June 05, 2013, 08:16:21 pm »

We have 25 minutes until the soft deadline.  I will vote (tomorrow) anybody who isn't voting by 8:30 who is on here.

This is the reason I am trying the popular easy lynch.

Elaborate, please? Because you think Sudgy's scummy for this? What do you mean?

Bacause we have 20 min to deadline
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #529 on: June 05, 2013, 08:16:53 pm »

We have 25 minutes until the soft deadline.  I will vote (tomorrow) anybody who isn't voting by 8:30 who is on here.

This is the reason I am trying the popular easy lynch.
Saving days isn't really that important. Pretty easy to get a lot of content in fast if people just do it. Like this.



I would make a case on xeiron, but that's hard to do as he has barely any posts.

We should lynch him because he has been very lurky, and the few things he has done haven't been much.  And his half-claiming thing was very strange.

Xeiron, at this stage, claiming something very believable will be the only way for me to unvote you.
Like how scummy is this? "I want to suspect this other guy but I can't find any reasons, please vote for him though".
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #530 on: June 05, 2013, 08:18:07 pm »

Sudgy,
I agree with what you're saying in principle, but in practice, I'd rather do an informed lynch, after I figure out what Xeiron has to say, in a couple hours than a less informed one now. I'd focus instead on if the people online are trying to move towards a lynch -- which is seems like everyone on is -- rather than a black/white policy there.

Agree completely.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #531 on: June 05, 2013, 08:18:35 pm »

I'm not on sudgy? Vote: Sudgy
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #532 on: June 05, 2013, 08:19:47 pm »

Vote Count Act I.XVIII:

liopoil (2): nkirbit, Twistedarcher
sudgy (3): raerae, xeiron, liopoil
xeiron (2): Eevee, sudgy

Not Voting (2): mail-mi, EFHW

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Act I ends on June 11 at 8:30 p.m.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #533 on: June 05, 2013, 08:20:50 pm »

I can't make a case on him because there's barely anything to even talk about.  I summed up a few thoughts on him, of all the posts that were relevant.  If there is somebody who hasn't posted at all, you can't make a case on them other than that they are lurking.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #534 on: June 05, 2013, 08:21:30 pm »

You can explain your reasons for why you think people should join you in that lynch.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #535 on: June 05, 2013, 08:22:05 pm »

You shouldn't ever make votes if you can't convince other people why that particular lynch is the one they should join.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #536 on: June 05, 2013, 08:22:11 pm »

I would make a case on xeiron, but that's hard to do as he has barely any posts.

We should lynch him because he has been very lurky, and the few things he has done haven't been much.  And his half-claiming thing was very strange.

Xeiron, at this stage, claiming something very believable will be the only way for me to unvote you.
Like how scummy is this? "I want to suspect this other guy but I can't find any reasons, please vote for him though".

That was in response to this, of course.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #537 on: June 05, 2013, 08:22:23 pm »

Agree. Half claiming is extremely weak, especially when it's RMM -- we knew he had a power role already if he's town!

True, halfclaiming is weak, but i do not want to fully claim in order to not reveal information that should not be revealed yet.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #538 on: June 05, 2013, 08:22:33 pm »

I can't make a case on him because there's barely anything to even talk about.  I summed up a few thoughts on him, of all the posts that were relevant.  If there is somebody who hasn't posted at all, you can't make a case on them other than that they are lurking.

He's been lurking.
He sheeped nkirbit's case on TA, calling TA's case bogus, without knowing TA's case. He then didn't respond when TA called him out on this.
He just made a really weird soft-claim.
He's trying to push a Sudgy lynch because the deadline's in 20 minutes, before all the evidence gets out there.

See! I just made a better case than you did in 1 minute without going back to look at anything!
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #539 on: June 05, 2013, 08:23:34 pm »

Xeiron is getting scummier the longer this goes on. Definitely has the highest scumminess to post ratio

My computer keyboard just stopped working, so I'm on a much slower phone. Bear with me
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #540 on: June 05, 2013, 08:25:14 pm »

Guys, we have five minutes.  Hurry up, and hopefully lynch xeiron instead of me.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #541 on: June 05, 2013, 08:25:18 pm »

Agree. Half claiming is extremely weak, especially when it's RMM -- we knew he had a power role already if he's town!

True, halfclaiming is weak, but i do not want to fully claim in order to not reveal information that should not be revealed yet.

Then why halfclaim at all? It just seems to me that it was made as another reason to push the lynch towards Sudgy and not yourself, rather than to push town in the right direction.

It's great for lining things up, too -- we mislynch Sudgy, you can fakeclaim D2, and lynch myself or Eevee! It just seems to convenient.

You claimed when it wasn't necessary, not to save your hide, but to direct a lynch towards other players -- that justs seems more like a scum play than a town play to me.

Vote: Xeiron
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #542 on: June 05, 2013, 08:25:34 pm »

I don't think half-claiming is as scummy as you are all making it out to be. You realize it would have to be a gambit he just made up out of thin air? Wouldn't he invent something more believable?
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #543 on: June 05, 2013, 08:25:46 pm »

Guys, we have five minutes.  Hurry up, and hopefully lynch xeiron instead of me.

Soft deadline, it doesn't matter if we lynch exactly at 8:30, we should try to lynch before tomorrow though.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #544 on: June 05, 2013, 08:25:57 pm »

Vote: sudgy
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #545 on: June 05, 2013, 08:26:24 pm »

I'm very confused about what xeiron is saying.

We aren't getting a lynch by the soft deadline, because it's in 5 minutes.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #546 on: June 05, 2013, 08:26:29 pm »

Sudgy too!  If I hadn't just mislynched sudgy, that's where my vote would be. But I'm so anxious about voting him
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #547 on: June 05, 2013, 08:27:02 pm »

I'm ready to vote Sudgy.  I find him scummier than xeiron.  That would be L-1.  Should I hold off?

PPE: I see Eevee has put him at L-1.  I will wait so sudgy can claim.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #548 on: June 05, 2013, 08:27:18 pm »

Sudgy is going to flip town, I think.
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Re: RMM6 Redux - Shakespeare Mafia (Act I)
« Reply #549 on: June 05, 2013, 08:27:24 pm »

2 on X, 1 on me, 4 on sudgy by my count. That's L-1.
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