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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2013, 06:56:25 am »
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Actually playable Sir Robin:



Edit: Different backside with Sir Robin's Chicken crest is for accountability, of course ;)
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2013, 07:00:40 am »
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Needs an accountability clause: in games using this, when any player plays an attack card, each other player discards a Sir Robin, or reveals a hand with no Sir Robin.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2013, 07:02:51 am »
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Needs an accountability clause: in games using this, when any player plays an attack card, each other player discards a Sir Robin, or reveals a hand with no Sir Robin.

Did you see the back of the card?
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2013, 07:12:57 am »
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Ah... but I can put it where I want when I shuffle, then? Stash-tastic.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2013, 07:25:44 am »
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Ah... but I can put it where I want when I shuffle, then? Stash-tastic.

That's a good point.... Nothing in the rules prohibits to "accidentally" shuffle until Sir Robin is wherever you want him to be... :(
I guess you need to shuffle eyes closed or something.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2013, 07:48:07 am »
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And what about games with both Sir Robin and Stash?
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2013, 07:49:08 am »
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And what about games with both Sir Robin and Stash?

The back is not the same, so I don't see the problem.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2013, 07:53:19 am »
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If I have to close my eyes while shuffling, I don't get the benefit of Stash. I guess you could make me separate the Stashes, shuffle with my eyes closed, and then insert the Stashes where I want; I'd be able to see where in my deck Sir Robin was, of course.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2013, 08:01:55 am »
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If I have to close my eyes while shuffling, I don't get the benefit of Stash. I guess you could make me separate the Stashes, shuffle with my eyes closed, and then insert the Stashes where I want; I'd be able to see where in my deck Sir Robin was, of course.

You can count the cards in your deck anytime (which implies you can look at their backs), so even without Stash, you could always see where Sir Robin is. As he is supposed to have a benefit in return for his not-so-braveness and as knowing where he is is not game-warping, i guess that would be okay.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2013, 08:28:15 am »
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How about if a knight is revealed by Sir Robin, the attack is nullified?
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2013, 03:54:49 am »
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Trying to get an attachment to show up...
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2013, 04:27:06 pm »
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On second thought...

(I might have messed up the wording a little. This was challenging to say succinctly. "Does the same" means that the player makes a choice for the player who played Camelot; the "the choices must be different" clause might be enough to be able to infer past the ambiguity, but meh.)

(Also, I think I didn't mean for the gained Camelot to go into your hand, but I'm not going to fix it, I don't think. It makes the card potentially a LOT wackier this way, anyway... If someone plays three Villages and a Camelot, then the only way to stop a Camelot chain is to do Gain a Camelot --> Cellar your hand to prevent playing Gain A Camelot as the third option. Seriously wacky.)
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2013, 07:04:23 pm »
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Life of Brian spoiler ahead...

EDIT: Added v2 with changes based on comments from here. It's more usable now.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2013, 07:22:07 pm »
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Fill your hovercraft with eels!
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2013, 08:04:29 pm »
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2013, 09:20:34 am »
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I took this one a step further.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2013, 12:54:32 am »
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More Life of Brian... Might actually be oddly broken in some exotic circumstance I haven't thought of yet. lulz.

(I could reword it to require two actions to play it and make it cost 0 or some other silliness, but I don't know...)

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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2013, 02:46:23 am »
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I still think the Spanish Inquisition should be a randomly shuffled pile with 10 different cardinals that all have the same action and reaction effect. Only that the reaction is always triggered by something else your opponents could do, and that even the top Cardinal is invisible - so neither your reaction-triggering opponents nor you expect what you get.
(Edit: Not-that-good example here)

If LastFootnote hadn't forbidden Knights-piles for Dark Ages, that would definately have been my entry.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2013, 05:39:54 am »
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Ah... but I can put it where I want when I shuffle, then? Stash-tastic.

That's a good point.... Nothing in the rules prohibits to "accidentally" shuffle until Sir Robin is wherever you want him to be... :(
I guess you need to shuffle eyes closed or something.

To avoid the shuffle problems a different backside gives, one way of making him scared would be that he has no effect when played if there was an attack played since your last turn.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2013, 07:04:33 am »
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The obvious solution with Sir Robin (and thematic, too) would be to always put him on top after shuffling. He's always first, and always first to run away.
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Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail Board
« Reply #45 on: October 31, 2013, 06:08:37 pm »
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Updated a 15-card pile I discussed earlier to make it more enticing to buy and play no matter what's on the board and how it's shuffled.

Bring Out Your Dead!/He's Not Dead Yet!/He's Getting Better!
5 each of the following three cards are shuffled into a single supply pile.

Bring Out Your Dead!
Action
Cost: 4

+1 card
+1 action
Each player may trash a card from their hand. +1 money if no one does so.

He's Not Dead Yet!
Action
Cost: 4

+1 card
+1 action
+1 money if the Trash pile is empty
You may move a card from the Trash pile to the Not Dead Yet pile.

He's Getting Better!
Action
Cost: 4
+1 card
+1 action
+1 money if the Not Dead Yet pile is empty
You may gain a card from the Not Dead Yet pile and put it into your hand.
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