Alright here is everything on Archetype.
Let's start with the big one, his claim to be Oracle. I have already dissected this to show that he in fact never intended to include raerae in this post, again I will highlight the nouns and the singular words which he used to describe his investigation
I used an Oracle I investigated Jimmmmm two nights ago and he's Town. I almost came out with it yesterday, but Yuma was pushing it so hard I didn't feel comfortable about it. If you don't believe me, see my flipped read on him.
He next says this:
As much as I hate map claiming/information claiming, I guess I have to do it to save my own butt:
I bought it Night 2 in a Silver Room Next to a Gold Room and 2 Hallways. It cost $8 and I did not use it the night I bought it because I had no one I wanted to investigate. I used it the following night on Jimmmmm (to see if I was right about him) and Raerae (I was generally suspicious of her).
Like I said above, but will hopefully say a little bit clearer here, Arch:
1. bought Oracle Night 2 (as in the third night we had map actions). If this is the case, then he is caught in a lie. It is a lie because he said in the first quote that he used it, not last night (night 3) but the night before (night 2). But in the second quote he said that he bought it night 2 and didn't use it until the next night (night 3). If this is the case it is a lie.
2. bought Oracle Night 1 (as in the second night we had map actions) and used it Night 2. If this is the case, Archetype didn't buy it. Sparky did because sparky was still in the game. This would be a crucial piece to leave out of the claim and it is blatantly missing here. This claim fits the scenario (arch buying it night 1 and using it night 2 (two nights ago). But lacks the details necessary to make it believable about sparky.
2a. Furthermore for this to be true, sparky would have had to have had $8 Night1--enough to buy the Oracle, in addition to the $2 needed to enter into the Silver Room. I am highly skeptical that a player could have that much money that early into the game. I for one received no money that day as I already said. Sparky and I were in very similar positions that day, both on the lower side of posting, both off wagon. I do not see how he could come into $8 and I get none.
But let's look further at Arch's claim and other things.
I used it the following night on Jimmmmm (to see if I was right about him) and Raerae (I was generally suspicious of her).
So he says he used it on Jimmm to see if he was right about him:
Here is what arch has said about Jimmm:
Day2:
People I want to lynch:
Jorbles, Jimmmmm, or mail-mi
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Jimmmmm: Sort of the same reason as Jorbles, except opposite. He's reached L-1 several times, but people keep drawing attention away from his lynch. He also pushed the mapclaiming-twice, something that I strongly feel shouldn't happen, and have said some pretty generally scummy things. He also got pretty angry about the wagon that was forming on him. And anger usually means scum.
In all honesty, Jimmmmm, I don't think I want to see you lynched today. You started out scummy earlier this day, but you've come around. I think that the Kooshie townread on you was suspicious and you bringing up map claiming is scummy, but that doesn't mean you're scum. Scum try to frame Town for things all the time.
Gah! I'd really rather lynch mail-mi today, and Jimmmmm on a later day, but fine. I'll vote: Jimmmmm to hurry this day up.
Day3:
He says nothing about Jimmm all of day3 (he only had 7 posts) contrary to what he says in his defense quote where he says that his reads had flipped on him.
Here is what arch has said about raerae:
Day2:
Pretty big townreads on Ozle, raerae, and ashersky.
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raerae: Drove that Kooshie lynch all the way. I'd be very surprised if she was scum, but she's a fairly advanced player and knows a good bussing opportunity when she sees one.
Day3: Nothing, even after I had begun to present something of a case on her.
Day4: Immediately after he claimed he seemed surprised that I would roleblock raerae, implying that he wasn't suspicious of her.
Question for Yuma: Why did you roleblock Raerae instead of me? You said you were highly suspicion of me and my lurking all day, but you never roleblocked me when you could!?
Other things pertaining to the oracle:
Day3 he said this:
I'm going to go with Vote: Lekkit. He lurkied inMAII and was scum and I could see him doing it again. Him or Jorbles are my preferred lynches for today.
I think the owner of the Oracle should claim. There's nothing worse than a Cop dying knowing who's cleared of scum and even worse, who's scum. I also believe sudgy's claim, if he were scum, it would take just one move to find out if he was lying or not.
If arch was actually the town oracle, why would he go against what he said initially? He says here that Oracle should claim day3, but he doesn't and doesn't seem to care that there is the potential that he might die during the night (I will admit that it seems unlikely that Arch would be a good NK, but still there is always a chance... a weird mafia kill, a vig, something)
Also note that Arch did not claim Oracle when he came under intense scrutiny and was in danger of being lynched day3.
All of this makes me think that he decided to fabricate this lie during last night but apparently didn't fabricate it well enough to make it believable.
add in his scumminess of:
1. being off the kooshie wagon, but attempting to buss once it got started (as sparky)
2. being on both the mail-mi and lekkit wagons
3. being extremely lurky, probably more lurky than any other player in the game
I can't imagine a scenario where arch is town.
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