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[ashersky]

Overall, I don't mind too much if you lynch me (just don't quick hammer), but be wary of Yuma leading Town. That guy is a master scum player.

On this point, which gets brought up a lot in regard to yuma: I'd suggest rereading parts of games where yuma was confirmed town by the end (i.e., he was lynched or nightkilled and flipped town).  Does true town!yuma seem like the yuma we have here?  Or is he the supertownyscumyuma from MnM again?

If I can say something... I think this game I most resemble yuma from MXV and MXI. MXV is certainly the more readable game of the two.

I can take this to mean "I checked out my old town games and figured out the best ones to emulate."

[yuma]

Overall, I don't mind too much if you lynch me (just don't quick hammer), but be wary of Yuma leading Town. That guy is a master scum player.

On this point, which gets brought up a lot in regard to yuma: I'd suggest rereading parts of games where yuma was confirmed town by the end (i.e., he was lynched or nightkilled and flipped town).  Does true town!yuma seem like the yuma we have here?  Or is he the supertownyscumyuma from MnM again?

If I can say something... I think this game I most resemble yuma from MXV and MXI. MXV is certainly the more readable game of the two.

I can take this to mean "I checked out my old town games and figured out the best ones to emulate."

right the game where I was mislynched for the first time and the game where I was under heavy, heavy suspicion all of day2. Those don't sound like great games to emulate as scum to me... But take it as whatever you want. I was just giving my opinion to help people if they wanted to reread me.

[ashersky]

Overall, I don't mind too much if you lynch me (just don't quick hammer), but be wary of Yuma leading Town. That guy is a master scum player.

On this point, which gets brought up a lot in regard to yuma: I'd suggest rereading parts of games where yuma was confirmed town by the end (i.e., he was lynched or nightkilled and flipped town).  Does true town!yuma seem like the yuma we have here?  Or is he the supertownyscumyuma from MnM again?

If I can say something... I think this game I most resemble yuma from MXV and MXI. MXV is certainly the more readable game of the two.

I can take this to mean "I checked out my old town games and figured out the best ones to emulate."

right the game where I was mislynched for the first time and the game where I was under heavy, heavy suspicion all of day2. Those don't sound like great games to emulate as scum to me... But take it as whatever you want. I was just giving my opinion to help people if they wanted to reread me.

I'm not saying it was bad to post.  Just pointing out how it could be taken.

[yuma]

So does that put him at L-2?  Working on an Arch reread right now.

what did you learn raerae?

[yuma]

Vote Count 3.6

Archetype (3) -- yuma, Jorbles, sudgy
Lekkit (3) -- Archetype, raerae, Jimmmm
Ozle (1) -- ashersky
yuma (1) -- Eevee
ashersky (2) -- Insomniac, Lekkit
Jimm (1) -- mcmcsalot

Not Voting (2) -- Ozle

Not sure why people are saying anyone is at L-2. It takes 7 to lynch. Both Arch and Lekkit appear to be at L-4... not even close to a lynch! Oh and there are what 16 days left in this game. And we have used, what 8 today? If we lynch today and if day 4 takes as long and if day5 takes as long, that is how long we have left in this game!

What gives! Where is the outrage! Where is the push? Why is this so extremely difficult.

I am swearing off games larger than 13 players after this. Sorry Robz. I appreciate all the effort you have put into this game and into MXI. But these games just aren't as fun for me.

[yuma]

sorry! Robz can you edit that so that it isn't orange!!!???

[ashersky]

sorry! Robz can you edit that so that it isn't orange!!!???

Also, modkill.

[ashersky]

Not sure why people are saying anyone is at L-2. It takes 7 to lynch. Both Arch and Lekkit appear to be at L-4... not even close to a lynch! Oh and there are what 16 days left in this game. And we have used, what 8 today? If we lynch today and if day 4 takes as long and if day5 takes as long, that is how long we have left in this game!

What gives! Where is the outrage! Where is the push? Why is this so extremely difficult.

I am swearing off games larger than 13 players after this. Sorry Robz. I appreciate all the effort you have put into this game and into MXI. But these games just aren't as fun for me.

I prefer the small games, too.

I've made my case on Ozle, I've put my vote on Ozle.  I have made my case for not voting for a few people.  In the interest of moving the game along, I would vote for a few others.

[raerae]

Not a whole lot of my own unique thoughts, honestly.  Your case was VERRRRRYYYYYY detailed and convincing.  However, I feel like Lekkit is my preferred choice.  In addition to my case earlier, he only pops in and contributes when he's called out for something.  Most of us haven't exactly been stellar at contributing, myself included but that will change going forward, but his activity has been solely based on when his name is mentioned. 

And mcmc, no, you don't get to demand things of me.  I vote for who I find scummy, I've never done a "popsquiz" and don't plan on starting now.

[yuma]

Not a whole lot of my own unique thoughts, honestly.  Your case was VERRRRRYYYYYY detailed and convincing.  However, I feel like Lekkit is my preferred choice.  In addition to my case earlier, he only pops in and contributes when he's called out for something.  Most of us haven't exactly been stellar at contributing, myself included but that will change going forward, but his activity has been solely based on when his name is mentioned. 

And mcmc, no, you don't get to demand things of me.  I vote for who I find scummy, I've never done a "popsquiz" and don't plan on starting now.

fine. vote: lekkit

[raerae]

Also, sorry if I started some confusion with L-2...just had that in my head for some reason and did no fact checking to verify it. 

[Archetype]

@Yuma: I'm starting to see what you meant by bankable time being more of a burden than helpful. I mean, it's great if everyone is active and regularly imputing ideas, but when half the players aren't even there it feels like another power role for scum. Which is not what the purpose of the bankable time is.

[sudgy]

Now that he's been picking up steam, Vote: lekkit.

[Lekkit]

I'll be here on compurer in half an hour. Don't lynch me until then. At least I have some info I want town to have.

[Lekkit]

Ok, so the case on me is that I've been lurky and was in the middle of both wagons, is that right? Sounds solid to me.

[Lekkit]

And here's the info I want you to have before you decide to lynch me.

[Lekkit]

The reason I think Jimm is town is because of his map claim. If scum had the TM at the time, or if he had shared vision of the map, it would be a lot harder not to include their info, like doors and stuff. I mean, I bet most of you guys haven't even read how much of the map you get vision of thuroughly. This could've been faked, but nobody even pointed it out. I think at least a scumbyddy would've done that to make him look better and possibly avoid getting lynched. But nobody came to the rescue. Also, he had explored around the same amounts of rooms as I had by the time.

OH! Actually. Anyone who has entered a room with an item that was bought when you entered can aswer this. Was the pricing listed of the bought item when you entered the room.

[Lekkit]

Also, someone who appears to have lied won't necessary be aware of it. Can't be more open about that, needs to be vague.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 3.7

Archetype (1) -- Jorbles
Lekkit (5) -- Archetype, raerae, Jimm, yuma, sudgy {L-2}
Ozle (1) -- ashersky
yuma (1) -- Eevee
ashersky (2) -- Insomniac, Lekkit
Jimm (1) -- mcmcsalot

Not Voting (1) -- Ozle

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are 17 days remaining. Deadline is May 6 at 7:00 PM.

[Lekkit]

And since nobody seems to be willing to join the ashersky wagon, I'll change my vote to the other wagon that at least seems remotely possible to go through. Vote: Archetype

[mcmcsalot]

Look at that wagon... Lekkit is totally going to flip town.

Want to lynch Jimm/arch/raerae

[mcmcsalot]

Oh and Jimm lynch is pickin up nothin so vote:arch

[ashersky]

The reason I think Jimm is town is because of his map claim. If scum had the TM at the time, or if he had shared vision of the map, it would be a lot harder not to include their info, like doors and stuff. I mean, I bet most of you guys haven't even read how much of the map you get vision of thuroughly. This could've been faked, but nobody even pointed it out. I think at least a scumbyddy would've done that to make him look better and possibly avoid getting lynched. But nobody came to the rescue. Also, he had explored around the same amounts of rooms as I had by the time.

OH! Actually. Anyone who has entered a room with an item that was bought when you entered can aswer this. Was the pricing listed of the bought item when you entered the room.

This is nice analysis, I guess, and I agree with it fully, actually.  I checked out Jimmmmm's map claiming, too.

What I don't understand is why this should keep anyone from lynching you.  I mean, I'm not currently voting for you, but if I was, this post doesn't change my mind.

[Lekkit]

Perhaps you can tell me why I'm being voted for besides lurking? Because I can't seem to find anything that actually sounds like a case. But people are wagon happy, and I get that. The reason I put it out there was so that when I flip, you'll take that into account.

The thing is, town sure would benefit from lynching scum, but the day ending soon is actually getting more and more important if we want to be able to win after today. I think there are better lynches today from my perspective. I would even rather lynch Jimm than me. And I have a town read on Jimm. But I'm starting to get what you mean by sacrificing yourself for the town. I'm just not as much into it as you are.

[ashersky]

Perhaps you can tell me why I'm being voted for besides lurking? Because I can't seem to find anything that actually sounds like a case. But people are wagon happy, and I get that. The reason I put it out there was so that when I flip, you'll take that into account.

The thing is, town sure would benefit from lynching scum, but the day ending soon is actually getting more and more important if we want to be able to win after today. I think there are better lynches today from my perspective. I would even rather lynch Jimm than me. And I have a town read on Jimm. But I'm starting to get what you mean by sacrificing yourself for the town. I'm just not as much into it as you are.

I think the lurking itself isn't the issue--it's the Top Gunning.  You swoop in when your name is called, but you haven't been providing your own thoughts on your own accord.  Like, you'll read "man, where's Lekkit, dude needs to get in here" and then you'll arrive and contribute, then fly off again.  I think that reads as scummy a lot of the time.  It's different if, say, you fly in at the same time of day every day to offer a few posts; then it's a schedule thing.  Here it seems like you are only posting (well, before) when your absence was noticed.  And now, under pressure, you are here providing input.  I think that's what has gotten people voting for you.