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[yuma]

Day1 post count Day 2 post count

1. Jimm: 35 77
2. raerae: 26 30
3. yuma: 29 118
4. ashersky: 42 100
5. Insomniac: 10 17
6. Eevee: 21 56
7. Jorbles: 15 41
8. liopoil: 92 124
9. sparky5856 Archetype: 26 31
10. mcmcsalot: 32 69
11. sudgy: 33 44
12. xeiron: 13
13. Lekkit: 16 18
14. Ozle: 65 88
15. Kooshie: 38
16. mail-mi: 39 55

[yuma]

I am very surprised if yesterdays lynch wasnt scum-driven. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TO GO FOR ANYONE BUT OZLE, MCMC, YUMA, JIMMM OR INSOMNIAC. Seriously sad times, multiplied by then by mail-mi's idiotic self hammer. Rage!

why no archetype in this list?

[Eevee]

I am very surprised if yesterdays lynch wasnt scum-driven. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TO GO FOR ANYONE BUT OZLE, MCMC, YUMA, JIMMM OR INSOMNIAC. Seriously sad times, multiplied by then by mail-mi's idiotic self hammer. Rage!

why no archetype in this list?

Oversight. He is actually one of my preferred guys (without rereading, I'd rank them Ozle>Archetype>yuma>mcmc>Insomniac>Jimmm, all being very close).

[yuma]

I am very surprised if yesterdays lynch wasnt scum-driven. TERRIBLE TERRIBLE TO GO FOR ANYONE BUT OZLE, MCMC, YUMA, JIMMM OR INSOMNIAC. Seriously sad times, multiplied by then by mail-mi's idiotic self hammer. Rage!

why no archetype in this list?

Oversight. He is actually one of my preferred guys (without rereading, I'd rank them Ozle>Archetype>yuma>mcmc>Insomniac>Jimmm, all being very close).

I agree (minus myself obviously). I do regret moving onto the mail-mi wagon. Looking back that should be obvious, but at the time I should have known better. Did know better in fact but was so frustrated by the lack of movement and the stalling everytime we got close to someone off wagon.

Right now Archetype has to be at the top, mcmc right there as well. Insomniac next, with Ozle and Jimm toward the back. But like you said they are all very, very close.

[ashersky]

Does no one realize that claiming to have bought the Gold Key last night is a ridiculously obvious scum grasp at town!cred?

GOLD ROOMS WILL BE CHEAPER TO ENTER AUTOMATICALLY TONIGHT.

That means there is no proof you bought the gold key, no proof you are town, and it is not a reason to not kill you.

[Robz888]

Does no one realize that claiming to have bought the Gold Key last night is a ridiculously obvious scum grasp at town!cred?

GOLD ROOMS WILL BE CHEAPER TO ENTER AUTOMATICALLY TONIGHT.

That means there is no proof you bought the gold key, no proof you are town, and it is not a reason to not kill you.

The automatic cost reduction for Gold Rooms does not kick in until AFTER Night 3.

[yuma]

Does no one realize that claiming to have bought the Gold Key last night is a ridiculously obvious scum grasp at town!cred?

GOLD ROOMS WILL BE CHEAPER TO ENTER AUTOMATICALLY TONIGHT.

That means there is no proof you bought the gold key, no proof you are town, and it is not a reason to not kill you.

The automatic cost reduction for Gold Rooms does not kick in until AFTER Night 3.

so we would have one last night to verify if sudgy is telling the truth. I am hoping that he isn't but thought the same away about this as you did ash.

sudgy isn't a good lynch for today.

[Jorbles]

Day1 post count Day 2 post count

1. Jimm: 35 77
2. raerae: 26 30
3. yuma: 29 118
4. ashersky: 42 100
5. Insomniac: 10 17
6. Eevee: 21 56
7. Jorbles: 15 41
8. liopoil: 92 124
9. sparky5856 Archetype: 26 31
10. mcmcsalot: 32 69
11. sudgy: 33 44
12. xeiron: 13
13. Lekkit: 16 18
14. Ozle: 65 88
15. Kooshie: 38
16. mail-mi: 39 55

raerae, Insomniac, Archetype and especially Lekkit... especially Lekkit. Made an unacceptably small contribution to discussion yesterday. d2 was really long and they made 7 posts or less. That combined with my previous wagon analysis makes me vote: Archetype.

[Archetype]

I'm going to go with Vote: Lekkit. He lurkied inMAII and was scum and I could see him doing it again. Him or Jorbles are my preferred lynches for today.


I think the owner of the Oracle should claim. There's nothing worse than a Cop dying knowing who's cleared of scum and even worse, who's scum. I also believe sudgy's claim, if he were scum, it would take just one move to find out if he was lying or not.

[raerae]

Day1 post count Day 2 post count

1. Jimm: 35 77
2. raerae: 26 30
3. yuma: 29 118
4. ashersky: 42 100
5. Insomniac: 10 17
6. Eevee: 21 56
7. Jorbles: 15 41
8. liopoil: 92 124
9. sparky5856 Archetype: 26 31
10. mcmcsalot: 32 69
11. sudgy: 33 44
12. xeiron: 13
13. Lekkit: 16 18
14. Ozle: 65 88
15. Kooshie: 38
16. mail-mi: 39 55

I can't believe I only posted 6 times in D2...am I reading that wrong or was I really that useless??

I 100% disagree with claiming if you bought Oracle UNLESS you found scum and even then maybe wait a little bit to see how the day progresses and give us some stuff to analyze.

Also, still only on my phone so doing what I can.

[Jimmmmm]

Why is creating two semi-ICs bad?

[yuma]

Day1 post count Day 2 post count

1. Jimm: 35 77
2. raerae: 26 30
3. yuma: 29 118
4. ashersky: 42 100
5. Insomniac: 10 17
6. Eevee: 21 56
7. Jorbles: 15 41
8. liopoil: 92 124
9. sparky5856 Archetype: 26 31
10. mcmcsalot: 32 69
11. sudgy: 33 44
12. xeiron: 13
13. Lekkit: 16 18
14. Ozle: 65 88
15. Kooshie: 38
16. mail-mi: 39 55

I can't believe I only posted 6 times in D2...am I reading that wrong or was I really that useless??

I 100% disagree with claiming if you bought Oracle UNLESS you found scum and even then maybe wait a little bit to see how the day progresses and give us some stuff to analyze.

Also, still only on my phone so doing what I can.

you are reading it wrong. Sorry. You posted 26 times day1 and 30 times day2. The end number is not a total.

And I agree. Claim sometime today. Just not in the next few RL days unless you found scum. Claim before the day is over, but not until we have some time to gauge reactions, votes, accusations, etc before knowing who may be cleared. It is just one more thing that we can use to find scum. But I would be careful to not use up too many days--due to bankable deadlines--for the wait. I would suggest 1-2 RL days.

[raerae]

Why is creating two semi-ICs bad?

I just didn't like being forced to claim in LoTR and I don't like pushing somebody else to do it. If they didn't find scum then give them another shot to find them. Maybe we could all give reads at the end of the day so if the cop/oracle does die we can look at that? I just want to get as much use out of this person as possible and I'm afraid if we expose that person they'll be the kill.

[ashersky]

How are we feeling on the usefulness of knowing what the map looks like (i.e. where the rooms are, etc.)?

[yuma]

I'm going to go with Vote: Lekkit. He lurkied inMAII and was scum and I could see him doing it again. Him or Jorbles are my preferred lynches for today.


I think the owner of the Oracle should claim. There's nothing worse than a Cop dying knowing who's cleared of scum and even worse, who's scum. I also believe sudgy's claim, if he were scum, it would take just one move to find out if he was lying or not.

oh and vote: archetype

[raerae]

How are we feeling on the usefulness of knowing what the map looks like (i.e. where the rooms are, etc.)?

What are the benefits in your eyes, Ash?

[ashersky]

How are we feeling on the usefulness of knowing what the map looks like (i.e. where the rooms are, etc.)?

What are the benefits in your eyes, Ash?

Well, we could possibly catch liars, since there's bound to be overlap in where we've all been.  No one refuted any of Jimmmmm's map-claim, for example.  Had anything he said been a lie, and one of us had been in that room, we could have confirmed it as such.

We know scum already knows the entire layout.  We know that a power exists for others to learn the layout.  It's the 3rd day at this point, so we've all possibly explored a fair amount.  I don't think the negatives (giving too much info to scum) are there.

Claiming what was available in each room is probably more dangerous, but claiming what we know about what the map looks like could be helpful.

[mcmcsalot]

How are we feeling on the usefulness of knowing what the map looks like (i.e. where the rooms are, etc.)?

What are the benefits in your eyes, Ash?

Well, we could possibly catch liars, since there's bound to be overlap in where we've all been.  No one refuted any of Jimmmmm's map-claim, for example.  Had anything he said been a lie, and one of us had been in that room, we could have confirmed it as such.

We know scum already knows the entire layout.  We know that a power exists for others to learn the layout.  It's the 3rd day at this point, so we've all possibly explored a fair amount.  I don't think the negatives (giving too much info to scum) are there.

Claiming what was available in each room is probably more dangerous, but claiming what we know about what the map looks like could be helpful.

Ashersky, I am going to go out on a limb, and attempt to do this town some good. I think I may know the reason you are wondering about a map claim. If this is the reason I think we need to discuss what we should do. But be as vague as possible

[ashersky]

Ashersky, I am going to go out on a limb, and attempt to do this town some good. I think I may know the reason you are wondering about a map claim. If this is the reason I think we need to discuss what we should do. But be as vague as possible

That's pretty vague.

[mcmcsalot]

Ashersky, I am going to go out on a limb, and attempt to do this town some good. I think I may know the reason you are wondering about a map claim. If this is the reason I think we need to discuss what we should do. But be as vague as possible

That's pretty vague.

Nevermind then, it's not you.

[ashersky]

Ashersky, I am going to go out on a limb, and attempt to do this town some good. I think I may know the reason you are wondering about a map claim. If this is the reason I think we need to discuss what we should do. But be as vague as possible

That's pretty vague.

Nevermind then, it's not you.

I mean, maybe its me.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 3.2

sudgy (2) -- Insomniac, Jimm
Archetype (2) -- Jorbles, yuma
Lekkit (1) -- Archetype

Not Voting (7) -- sudgy, raerae, ashersky, Eevee, Ozle, mcmcsalot, Lekkit

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is May 6 at 7:00 PM.

[mcmcsalot]

Ashersky, I am going to go out on a limb, and attempt to do this town some good. I think I may know the reason you are wondering about a map claim. If this is the reason I think we need to discuss what we should do. But be as vague as possible

That's pretty vague.

Nevermind then, it's not you.

I mean, maybe its me.

Okay I think I have a way to figure this out, would you say you did something multiple times last night?

[yuma]

Vote Count 3.2

sudgy (2) -- Insomniac, Jimm

Insomniac and Jimmmm: do you both still maintain that sudgy is the best lynch today? Do you not think that his claim regarding the golden key--and thus his alignment--can be verified tonight?

[mcmcsalot]

Fuck... S.H.D as far as anything having to do with my idiotic claim goes. I was no where near vague enough and may have just screwed up.